Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2020 March 27

= March 27 =

03:17:36, 27 March 2020 review of submission by Beatleswillneverdie
I read an article can be notable if it "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent from the musician or ensemble who created it. This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, online versions of print media, and television documentaries." I have included references from books, articles, and many more. Beatleswillneverdie (talk) 03:17, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
 * , The key phrase you are missing here is "has been the subject". None of the sources that are independent of the subject show WP:SIGCOV of the subject. For example, take a look at Heart-Shaped_Box and note that there are sources and coverage that deal directly with the subject. Sulfurboy (talk) 03:46, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
 * , Also, just as a pro-tip, if a song by an artist as popular as Nirvana has been out for 20+ years and doesn't already have an article, then it is very unlikely that the subject is notable. There is a myriad of editors here fanatical about that band. Trust me, they would have created an article about it by now if it was notable. Cheers Sulfurboy (talk) 03:47, 27 March 2020 (UTC)


 * , Thank you. I really appreciate you telling me. I now know what needs to be done for the future. Just kind of disappointed I spent a long time on research. Beatleswillneverdie (talk)

13:36:36, 27 March 2020 review of submission by SergeyImunify360
SergeyImunify360 (talk) 13:36, 27 March 2020 (UTC) This is not an advertising page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Imunify360, I don’t understand why all edits are regarded as advertising? Why for example these pages can exist https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McAfee or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitdefender and Imunify360 can not? Thanks
 * There is no indication that this is a notable subject. Blogs and forums are not reliable sources either. Theroadislong (talk) 13:45, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

16:11:15, 27 March 2020 review of submission by 197.90.140.245
Please can you assist, advice on how to be more notable or define notable 197.90.140.245 (talk) 16:11, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Notability requires significant coverage WP:SIGCOV of the subject in reliable, secondary sources WP:RS. Your article has been rejected which means it has been determined that the subject is not notable at this time. There's not a way to make someone "more notable" Sulfurboy (talk) 16:44, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

16:25:54, 27 March 2020 review of draft by 35winds
35winds (talk) 16:25, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

I need some help with the reference section on the Fumiko Ikawa-Smith page. I think that I've added in the correct information as I can't find any more information. But the system appears to want more. Thank you for your advice, in advance.

19:52:16, 27 March 2020 review of submission by JclarkeFLA
I am requesting a re-review because I took out verbiage that made it sound like an advertisement and added another resource. JclarkeFLA (talk) 19:52, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
 * The problems still remain. It reads as a promotional brochure for the park.  Your draft was rejected, not just declined, meaning that there is little chance it can be improved, I regret to say. You have offered no independent reliable sources with significant coverage of the park.  Wikipedia articles only summarize what independent reliable sources state.  331dot (talk) 19:56, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

20:32:44, 27 March 2020 review of submission by Renwang101
Made some changes, hopefully it is fine now, thanks. Ren Renwang101 (talk) 20:32, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Your draft was rejected, not just declined, meaning there is little chance it can be brought up to standards. 331dot (talk) 20:34, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

I just got a brief message as below from 331dot:

Your draft was rejected, not just declined, meaning there is little chance it can be brought up to standards. 331dot (talk) 20:34, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

What's the difference between "rejected" and "declined".

Am I getting better or worse after few changes I made to the article?

Thanks!

Ren Renwang101 (talk) 20:52, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Please ask follow up questions in the same section as your existing question. As I said, rejected means it has little chance of being improved to the point where it would be a valid article. 331dot (talk) 20:54, 27 March 2020 (UTC)