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= March 6 =

02:33:15, 6 March 2020 review of submission by Johnpaterno
Johnpaterno (talk) 02:33, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

02:35:31, 6 March 2020 review of submission by Johnpaterno
Johnpaterno (talk) 02:35, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

05:40:20, 6 March 2020 review of draft by 88.119.152.93
88.119.152.93 (talk) 05:40, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Hello,

An article about RutOS was rejected. Perhaps you could indicate specific places that I should add and where to edit? Article page address: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:RutOS

08:04:02, 6 March 2020 review of submission by Ranudas01
Ranudas01 (talk) 08:04, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

08:45:41, 6 March 2020 review of submission by Renukaapollo
I have gathered information about my company page. The page Apollo Aerospace Components is also deleted. Please help me retrieve this page. I want to update information about my company Renukaapollo (talk) 08:45, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
 * You will need to comply with the conflict of interest and paid editing policies on your user page. Please read Your First Article to learn what is being looked for- your text was just a promotional piece for your company, with no sources at all.  Wikipedia only summarizes the content of independent reliable sources in articles- this does not include republished press releases, staff interviews, routine business announcements, or other primary sources. 331dot (talk) 12:51, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

09:11:50, 6 March 2020 review of submission by Nazimbnrpk
Nazimbnrpk (talk) 09:11, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

09:20:36, 6 March 2020 review of submission by Carscd
I received a response to my paste-up to to my usersandbox that: the material appeared to be a test edit and unworthy of a page in Wikipedia. I drafted the topic in response to a pop-up on a Wikipedia page that said that a page had not yet been created for the subject of the pop up. For context, my draft has links to other Wikipedia pages but no footnote references. I could create some if these are required to provide standing - I thought the article could stand alone within the context of the linked Wikipedia pages. I do not mind that the various links might send readers away from my article: the topic is historical. have encyclopaedic knowledge of the topic and am willing to perservere to publication. Since I am a novice Wikipedia author I would like to know if the next step is forget it or something else. Carscd (talk) 09:20, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
 * The sandbox is for drafting articles, not for what you did. You submitted the note in your sandbox as if you wanted it to become an article. Simply paste whatever you have in your word document into your sandbox and submit it for review.  JTP (talk • contribs) 14:03, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

09:56:35, 6 March 2020 review of submission by Nazimbnrpk
Nazimbnrpk (talk) 09:56, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
 * No indication that Nazimullah Agarai Buner is notable. Theroadislong (talk) 11:02, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

10:04:16, 6 March 2020 review of submission by 2409:4066:1D:F698:295B:33E:A7A:64EC
2409:4066:1D:F698:295B:33E:A7A:64EC (talk) 10:04, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Did you have a question? Sulfurboy (talk) 14:55, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

10:16:09, 6 March 2020 review of submission by Sworrubt
My article submission has been rejected because "it is very exceptional that we consider an individual academic department notable". But the other eight departments in the Faculty of Science and Engineering at The University of Manchester have pages, so I'm just wondering why this one is deemed unacceptable? Sworrubt (talk) 10:16, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Your draft has zero independent sources and also reads like an advert for the department. Theroadislong (talk) 11:01, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

12:33:08, 6 March 2020 review of submission by 2A00:23C6:4882:8401:B18D:374:E410:99A5
I believe it should be as it was published in many reliable sources

2A00:23C6:4882:8401:B18D:374:E410:99A5 (talk) 12:33, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Do you have a question? Sulfurboy (talk) 14:08, 6 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Yes, my question is why has this been rejected if he was mentioned in many reliable sources? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C6:4882:8401:B18D:374:E410:99A5 (talk) 16:06, 6 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Just mentions are not sufficient. It needs to be significant coverage of the subject. — HELL KNOWZ   ▎TALK 18:17, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

It wasn't just a passing mentions, those articles were specifically about the person in draft wholly and exclusively. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C6:4882:8401:B18D:374:E410:99A5 (talk) 20:02, 6 March 2020 (UTC)


 * I hadn't checked the sources, I only commented on "mentions". But looking at them, the articles are about the movie, not the actor. The coverage of actor in the articles is not significant enough. If anything, the movie itself could be notable, although these random churnalism current event hype articles are probably not be enough. — HELL KNOWZ   ▎TALK 20:22, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

13:10:53, 6 March 2020 review of draft by Sanjay1205
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sanjay1205/sandbox all references posted from reliable sources and notable person in tamil film industry Sanjay1205 (talk) 13:10, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
 * , Except they aren't. Please review WP:RS. You also will need to provide inline citations. Sulfurboy (talk) 14:08, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

14:40:11, 6 March 2020 review of draft by Sanjay1205
Sanjay1205 (talk) 14:40, 6 March 2020 (UTC) @surfboy any examples template for this what you mean can ypu explain  please need to provide inline citations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sanjay1205/sandbox
 * Links explaining inline citations have already been provided to you in the decline messages on the draft page.Sulfurboy (talk) 14:55, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

18:14:40, 6 March 2020 review of draft by Dontwantone
I'd like to delete the article on Bob Quaranta and any comments connected to the draft.

Dontwantone (talk) 18:14, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Done. 331dot (talk) 18:16, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
 * , I don't think that guy was the original page creator? Iirc, it was an article that was draftified from mainspace and he was just the one that recently was submitting it. I could be remembering wrong though. Sulfurboy (talk) 21:54, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
 * This user has worked on it since 2011, the user that actually created it hasn't edited since 2009. 331dot (talk) 22:05, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

18:48:16, 6 March 2020 review of draft by 2605:6000:1525:83C5:FC78:563C:8D27:9F99
2605:6000:1525:83C5:FC78:563C:8D27:9F99 (talk) 18:48, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

May I please ask how this page would be different from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Geoghegan? Michael Healey was also an American hero involved in a historically significant event.

Very respectfully submitted.
 * Other articles should not be cited to justify the existence of yours, see other stuff exists. It is possible the article you cite is not appropriate as well. Merely being involved in a historical event does not necessarily merit any individual an article.  An individual merits an article if there is significant coverage of the person in independent reliable sources showing how they meet the Wikipedia definition of a notable person.  WP:BLP1E is also relevant here. Per that guideline, a person does not merit an article:


 * 1) If reliable sources cover the person only in the context of a single event.
 * 2) If that person otherwise remains, and is likely to remain, a low-profile individual. Biographies in these cases can give undue weight to the event and conflict with neutral point of view. In such cases, it is usually better to merge the information and redirect the person's name to the event article.
 * 3) If the event is not significant or the individual's role was either not substantial or not well documented. John Hinckley Jr., for example, has a separate article because the single event he was associated with, the Reagan assassination attempt, was significant and his role was both substantial and well documented.


 * I don't say these things to minimize the loss of the firefighter, which is horribly tragic. 331dot (talk) 19:48, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

21:53:55, 6 March 2020 review of submission by Dotanmeirov
Hello, I read as much as I can and revised this contribution many times. I think that this company is important and should be part of Wikipedia. It is genuinely understandable not to write anything that is advertisement. It makes sense that everything should stay factual and to the point. But, I hit a wall with "not qualifying for Wikipedia" This is a company that was presented an award from the state of Israel, By the President Himself, Shimon Peres. If that is not qualifying then what is? I revised the wording to pure facts with nothing else. What should I remove, What should I change? Dotan Meirov --Dotanmeirov (talk) 21:53, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Dotanmeirov (talk) 21:53, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
 * , The article has been rejected, which mean it will no longer be further considered. Whether or not it was factual or not doesn't matter. Most advertisements are completely factual. The problem is putting undue weight on accomplishments and awards instead of writing a formal, neutral article The fact that you see nothing wrong with the article shows that you have a debilitating conflict of interest. The article was resubmitted multiple times without seriously addressing the issues and in a manner that shows our policies were not actually read. I would highly advise that if you continue to do paid editing that you take the time to read our policies. Thanks. Sulfurboy (talk) 21:58, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

23:28:45, 6 March 2020 review of submission by 38.140.155.66
I would like an explanation as to why the article was denied for publication. The stated reason seems arbitrary at best. Seems to me he is as worthy as many others included. 38.140.155.66 (talk) 23:28, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Your opinion on whether someone is worthy bears zero weight. We have strict notability policies in place. The reviwer has rejected the article as they have determined this subject does not meet those standards. As such, the draft will not be reviewed further. Sulfurboy (talk) 23:33, 6 March 2020 (UTC)