Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2020 May 1

= May 1 =

01:27:32, 1 May 2020 review of submission by Greg c1988
the feedback given is absolutely incorrect - "The Queensland Times citation just added was an exact copy of the news.com.au article that was already cited" In the Queensland Times article, their is no referencing to News.com.au - They are different articles, they both state different facts.

For example, I was going to add this reference by the Daily Mail, but then I realised at the bottom it was linking back to the News.com.au article which I have already referenced - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6857699/How-Australians-enter-lottery-potentially-win-Powerball-jackpots-bigger-1BILLION.html There are other exact articles to the one of the Queensland Times, like - https://www.dalbyherald.com.au/news/the-lott-reveals-the-games-most-frequently-drawn-n/3618774/ or https://www.tweeddailynews.com.au/news/the-lott-reveals-the-games-most-frequently-drawn-n/3618774/.

All sections have been properly referenced. There is no failure towards https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(organizations_and_companies).

Also, I have addressed this issued according to the feedback I have received on Teahouse: "Hello, Greg c1988. Your understandable confusion lies in a common misunderstanding about what "notable" means in the context of Wikipedia editing. It isn't the everyday meaning, but rather one that has arisen within our Wikipedia-editing jargon. What it doesn't mean is important, or popular, or well-known, or worthy, etc., etc. What it does mean is, in summary, "has been written about sufficiently extensively by independent third parties in several unconnected pieces published in reputable, well-edited academic or journalistic organs, providing sufficient information on which a Wikipedia article can be acceptably created." The fuller explanation can be found at Wikipedia:Notable. Therefore, to be acceptable an article has to be about a subject that has been written about in this way in Reliable sources, and the article has to demonstrate this by citing those sources to support the bulk of its contents. It sounds to me (as it probably did to the first reviewer you mention) that this Company probably is a notable (i.e. sufficiently publically documented) subject, but the article has to prove that it meets Wikipedia's relevant requirements, in this case those of Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies), by including citations to suitable and sufficient third-party sources. Such sources are likely to include independently written pieces (so not PR releases, or interviews with subjects employees) in reputable newspapers, and text in books, etc., produced by established professional publishing companies (not self-published works). Note that not every fact in an article has to be derived from an independent (of the subject) Reliable source – uncontrovertial facts like business address, name of CEO, number of employees, etc., can even be taken from a company's own website – but notability can only be supported by completely independent sources. I hope this makes things clearer. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.121.161.127 (talk) 16:45, 29 April 2020 (UTC) --- Requesting for this to be re-reviewed. I would like this to be reviewed by another reviewer, not - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Curb_Safe_Charmer.

Greg c1988 (talk) 01:27, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree with the assessment of the reviewer. Most of the sources seem to be press release type articles or routine announcements, not significant coverage. 331dot (talk) 07:29, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ I agree as well that this correct assessment for rejection was made. Sulfurboy (talk) 10:58, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

--- Can you please advise where does it state the limit on how many articles can be used?

I started another thread below. Apologies for doubling up. I can't delete it now.

08:04:42, 1 May 2020 review of submission by NewLoaded9ja
I need you advise on the draft:HoganHost to complete the article and it to accepted Hello great editors, please why my article are dealine.

NewLoaded9ja (talk) 08:04, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , For starters, no need to ask a question four different times. Second, the article in question is just promotional advertising for a company. It does not seem to be notable, and the article is just chock full of buzzwords. CaptainEek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 08:20, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

10:40:11, 1 May 2020 review of submission by Rahulrstg
How to Write a Article in Wiki what is the process of new Person. Rahulrstg (talk) 10:40, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , I would visit the Teahouse for help. See WP:TEA Sulfurboy (talk) 10:56, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Request on 12:57:38, 1 May 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Shahkarshah
Hi JFY My article was deleted few years back, because I copied a few lines and pasted the text without making an effort to read the instructions, so I stopped writing on Wikipedia, after a few years I am trying to write again without coping any line I have used templates from Zaha Hadid, I hope it is legal, and I am trying to write this article to encourage those who love art but their families stop them from joining these professions. Please check my article can I publish it. Thank you Shahkarshah (talk) 12:57, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

13:13:40, 1 May 2020 review of draft by Ym2X
Someone else resubmitted this draft (I had previously submitted) so I did a short source review on the talk page to hopefully show that the draft passed WP:GNG (and then I also added a source to show the subject passed 2. of WP:SINGER), but it has since been declined again.

The most recent decline reasons were "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources" and "This submission appears to read more like an advertisement" which looking at the AFC workflow sheet seems to be only a few steps away from the accept circle (taking those two reasons to be the "reliably sourced" and "neutral pov" diamonds, I could be wrong?).

Perhaps I could stubify the draft, any unreliable sources could be removed and both these problems would be solved? Then the article could be grown in mainspace where there is more room for collaboration?

I just wanted to check whether my understanding of the process is correct and whether my proposed solution would actually help? Ym2X (talk) 13:13, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

13:21:41, 1 May 2020 review of submission by Atim2019
This article is rich enough to publish it, why voiding it
 * Because the article is basically an advertisement. Wikipedia is not a place to promote a business. Sulfurboy (talk) 16:46, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

15:08:48, 1 May 2020 review of submission by Nesherin
Hi, I'm looking for someone who can help me with this page. I've been trying to work on it for several months now but apparently it doesn't work, I just dopn't have the skills.... I really want this page to go online, it's about a theatre group that doesn't exist anymore. It would be good to have it archivd in Wikipedia. thanks

Nesherin (talk) 15:08, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a place to memorialize someone or something. If the group does not meet the notability criteria, it cannot be on Wikipedia. 331dot (talk) 15:46, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

16:10:33, 1 May 2020 review of submission by Oketa daniel
My submission was rejected. Reason being that it was taken from a Blog Post. And I can prove that I am the one who othered that same blog post. What should I do now. I am the original author and I am even making a book on the same subject. Oketa daniel (talk) 16:10, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , You need to link to the article that you are talking about. Also, if you are writing a book about the subject, that means you have a financial stake in promoting the subject, which means you need to properly disclose as a paid editor. I've posted the applicable information on your talk page. Sulfurboy (talk) 16:45, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

17:11:40, 1 May 2020 review of submission by MedialadyCLA
I'd like to add a photo of the subject of an article to his article. How do I do that? MedialadyCLA (talk) 17:11, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , did you take the picture, or have the permission to license the picture? If not, you can't upload it except in very limited circumstances.
 * Because Wikipedia is licensed under a free license, where as long as we are attributed anyone can use our content, images (except in very limited circumstances) must also be released under a free license. We can't have images licensed just for use at Wikipedia, or under licenses that don't allow derivatives or commercial use. If you upload a photo here, it can be used for any reason, with the only condition you can require being attribution.
 * Knowing the above, you can upload the image at Commons:Special:UploadWizard. If the image wasn't taken by you, but you have permission to license the image, you should also email permissions-commons@undefinedwikimedia.org, where volunteers will record and store the permission to use the image.  Alex Noble / 1-2 / TRB  17:25, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Knowing the above, you can upload the image at Commons:Special:UploadWizard. If the image wasn't taken by you, but you have permission to license the image, you should also email permissions-commons@undefinedwikimedia.org, where volunteers will record and store the permission to use the image.  Alex Noble / 1-2 / TRB  17:25, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Knowing the above, you can upload the image at Commons:Special:UploadWizard. If the image wasn't taken by you, but you have permission to license the image, you should also email permissions-commons@undefinedwikimedia.org, where volunteers will record and store the permission to use the image.  Alex Noble / 1-2 / TRB  17:25, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

18:10:27, 1 May 2020 review of draft by Andrewhistory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Prodigy_math_game help me with this draft HISTORIAN (talk) 18:10, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , It will need additional reliable sources and also will need to be written in comprehensible English. CaptainEek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 21:10, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

18:23:01, 1 May 2020 review of draft by Kojo Essel
I am a new user. My draft article was declined and would like to request for assistance to help me edit to meet Wikipedia Standard and the reviewer's comment Thank you

Kojo Essel (talk) 18:23, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , Well for starters it reads like an ad. Articles need to be written from a formal point of view. Secondly, are you connected in any way with the subject? If so you need to declare that by following the steps at WP:COI. If you have been paid by the subject you must disclose that by following the steps at WP:PAID. CaptainEek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 21:05, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Request on 18:25:13, 1 May 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Mrcoleprotocol522
Why is my article determined not sufficently notable for wikipedia? My topic is on a rapper who has several albums and has worked with other big name rappers. The article's decline seems entirely subjective.

Mrcoleprotocol522 (talk) 18:25, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Your draft does not show with significant coverage in multiple published independent reliable sources how this rapper meets the Wikipedia definition of a notable musician. Please review the criteria. Two of the references are to this rapper's own website, which is not an independent source and does not establish notability. 331dot (talk) 18:28, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

18:50:43, 1 May 2020 review of submission by Adumbgeek
Good Afternoon, I am requesting assistance in regards to the article Chase The Comet. It was declined for reading more like an advertisement, and not being from a neutral point of view. Can someone please assist me with this? I am new to this and was looking for something to do because of this COVID-19 crap. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated, I want to make sure it's done right. Thanks for your time.

Adumbgeek (talk) 18:50, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , I will answer your question at the Teahouse shortly, no need to post on more than one board. CaptainEek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 21:02, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

21:42:43, 1 May 2020 review of draft by Ronroizen
Cannot upload a photo. Ronroizen (talk) 21:42, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , Please take a look at Help:Creation and usage of media files CaptainEek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 09:05, 2 May 2020 (UTC)