Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2020 May 15

= May 15 =

03:53:25, 15 May 2020 review of submission by 2601:CA:C300:18A0:4CC7:8C08:D57C:4322
Don’t understand how the topic is not notable with a reliable source 2601:CA:C300:18A0:4CC7:8C08:D57C:4322 (talk) 03:53, 15 May 2020 (UTC)


 * For starters, networthpost.org is not a reliable source. Furthermore, a single source is almost never enough. Novice editors are commonly advised to cite at least three independent, reliable, second sources containing significant coverage of their topic. The rejection of the draft is meant to convey that no such sources exist, so no amount of editing will make the draft acceptable. Consequently volunteers do not intend to review it again. --Worldbruce (talk) 06:21, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

04:47:06, 15 May 2020 review of submission by HardiTalwani
HardiTalwani (talk) 04:47, 15 May 2020 (UTC) How do I delete a page on Wikipedia?


 * Hi . See How to delete a page. --Worldbruce (talk) 05:52, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

05:17:57, 15 May 2020 review of submission by Mintumondal24
Hello Helpdesk,

This is Mintu. I have been on wikipedia since last month. As you might have noticed my contribution on Wikipedia. I have been wondering to create an article that I know very closely. I have tried to modifiy one of the draft page in Wikipedia to enhance my skills. So, I got notification yesterday that my contribution has been declined again.

Could you please let me know why this page declined again? It would be great for me if you can guide me on how to create page or article on wikipedia? I have read all the guidelines here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_create_a_page) and (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Your_first_article) but still I am unable to publish aritcle. I don't know why... I have tried to give proper citation when I write any information.

Please help me!

Prompt reply is highly appreciable

Warm Regards, Mintu Mintumondal24 (talk) 05:17, 15 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi . The reason the draft was rejected is that the company is not notable (not suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia). Creating new articles is time consuming, frustrating, and overrated. There are millions of easier and better ways of improving the encyclopedia. See Community portal for how to help. After you've built up a few months or years of editing experience, you will be better prepared to create articles. --Worldbruce (talk) 05:48, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi (talk), Thank you for your response and I appreciate it to guide me. I will definitely enhance the editing experience from wikipedia communtiy portal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mintumondal24 (talk • contribs) 06:19, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

05:49:38, 15 May 2020 review of draft by Artemes
I am asking for help on references. I have as many or more as other people in this cateory, plus the subject was publishes in the Spanish Wikipedia site with many fewer references. Looking for some guidance

Artemes (talk) 05:49, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

I need assistance on addition references. I added similar references from other peolpe in the category. Also the subject was published in the spanish wikipedia site with less references. Looking for some guidance Artemes (talk) 05:54, 15 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi . Each language version of Wikipedia operates according to its own policies and guidelines, set by the community of editors who contribute there. So an article may satisfy the rules for the Spanish Wikipedia but not the English one, or vice versa.


 * The quality of references is vastly more important than the quantity. You cite AVN, which is reliable, but you also cite Iafd and Wikipedia, which are not, and should not be cited. It's unlikely that wallofcelebrities.com is reliable either. You may find more guidance on sources at WikiProject Pornography.


 * For a biography of a living person, it won't be enough to simply list the references you used in writing the text. You can assume that almost every sentence of the draft is likely to be challenged (reviewers are a skeptical bunch), so must be supported by an inline citation to the source that supports it. --Worldbruce (talk) 06:15, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

07:09:03, 15 May 2020 review of draft by 89.143.175.21
Dear Rewiever,

Thank you for fast and prompt response. However, Probably as many others, I am not familiar with the Wikipedia, since I am a new member. I received a negative response regarding green tribology, however, I would like to ask for help. How to link/merge the short content, which I proposed to the existing article Tribology? I would appreciate your time.

Kind regards, Marko

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Green_tribology

89.143.175.21 (talk) 07:09, 15 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Merging explains the process. The reviewer has performed step #2 for you. Go back and do step #1: on Talk:Tribology create a new section explaining why Tribology would be improved by merging Draft:Green tribology into it. Wait a week for discussion to take place (step #3). If there is no discussion, or if the consensus is clearly to merge, continue with steps #4 and #5. --Worldbruce (talk) 15:37, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

10:09:35, 15 May 2020 review of submission by Aurélie MDZ
Hi, My page has not been improved by 1292simon, who doesn't give any reason. As I'm a a beginner in creating Wikipedia page, I don't understand how to contact him in order to exchange with him, although its page to contact him is mentionned: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:1292simon

How to do that?

Best regards, Aurelie

Aurélie MDZ (talk) 10:09, 15 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi . Click User talk:1292simon, on that page click the "New section" tab, and type your question in the large editing window. Help:Talk pages explains in more detail. Before you contact him, it would be helpful to everyone if you wrote a few words on your user page explaining why you're writing about La Muse en Circuit. Perhaps you are a student there, or are employed there? --Worldbruce (talk) 14:37, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

10:54:51, 15 May 2020 review of submission by Poonamchatterjee
Poonamchatterjee (talk) 10:54, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Please help

11:40:04, 15 May 2020 review of draft by Pt8340
This article is written fully Neutral point of view all the information in it is from reliable, information and reputated sources like Times of India, Forbes India, Business Standard, CNBC TV18, Business World, The Economic Times, India Today. So this is notable topic. Anybody can check all the information in the article from reliable source as mention above.so this is verifiable This article has been written responsibly, cautiously and in a dispassionate tone without understatement and overstatement with all information from independent and reliable sources. All information in the article is attributable to reliable and published source. So there is No original research. He has received singnificant coverage in multiple published sources that are independent to each other and independent to the subject. And he has received India's young Achiever 2016, Included in the Forbes 30 under 30 finance list, He was mentioned in Forbes India maiden tycoons of Tomorrow list. So this is notable. This is following every policy and guidelines of Wikipedia. So this should be live on Wikipedia

Pt8340 (talk) 11:40, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I am one of the three separate reviewers who declined it. The article is sourced from notices, press releases, and promotional interviews with the principals the the company, which also do  not count as independent sources. The many 30 under 30 awards are basically promotionalism, and at most show the company might be notable someday in the future.   The editor was asked about possible COI, and has not yet answered,  DGG ( talk ) 16:24, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I have improved this page after your review. And most of the references are reliable, secondary sources that are independent to the subject written by independent journalist. And his company and brother has already Wikipedia page.Please review this page and it live on Wikipedia
 * Your only two articles are on a financial service and the proprietor of a financial service. You have now declared that you have no coi. My decline is not a veto.  In fact, I think it fair that, if I decline to accept an article, another reviewer look at it the next time, to avoid any possible preconceptions or unconscious bias. So any other reviewer who wants to take responsibility can accept it. As advice, it's probably not a good  idea for anyone to begin their wiki-career with an article about a er service or executive, or about a noncommercial organization or charity or school. Rather,  start with something that will unquestionably qualify, such as a legislator or former legislator.   DGG ( talk ) 19:26, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

14:09:40, 15 May 2020 review of submission by Tinkunath55
Tinkunath55 (talk) 14:09, 15 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi . Unlike Facebook, LinkedIn, or similar sites, Wikipedia is not a place to write about yourself. --Worldbruce (talk) 14:18, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

15:44:45, 15 May 2020 review of draft by QueenSnicklefritz
I have been declined twice. I did add three reliable sources. I am not sure how to disclose my COI. Can you please help? I also would like to know what category to add on the talkpage to speed up review process. Thanks!

QueenSnicklefritz (talk) 15:44, 15 May 2020 (UTC)


 * I've left more information on your talk page about how to disclose a conflict of interest. There isn't anything that can be added to the draft or talk page that would definitely speed up review, but I've added a WikiProject Archaeology banner that might attract the attention of someone interested in the field. Don't hold your breath. --Worldbruce (talk) 19:00, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
 * It was reviewed 4 days ago and declined. Theroadislong (talk) 19:08, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Request on 18:12:35, 15 May 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by VarlamTikhonovich
A crafted an article in the English language wikipedia.

My article is a translation of an article in the Spanish wikipedia regarding a modestly prominent Uruguayan artist.

The piece was rejected with the statement:

"Wikipedia is not a resume service. Needs more external news sources to show notability for this person."

Yet since the Spanish article has been there for 4 years, why is an English language translation "a resume service" ?

Is there one standard for Spanish language articles and a different standard that excludes many artists who are more familiar to Spanish language users?

If the English language article must NOT exist, why is there a different view regarding the Spanish language article ?

VarlamTikhonovich (talk) 18:12, 15 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi . Yes, the standards may be different. Each language version of Wikipedia operates according to its own policies and guidelines, set by the community of editors who contribute there. So an article may satisfy the rules for the Spanish Wikipedia but not the English one, or vice versa. Another thing to consider is that existence of an article doesn't mean that it meets the policies and guidelines, or that it should exist. It could be just that no one has gotten around to improving it or deleting it yet. You can try to find better sources and rewrite your effort to be more in line with the English Wikipedia's policies and guidelines (see WP:FA for examples of high-quality articles). Or you can move on to something else. --Worldbruce (talk) 19:12, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Hey (talk) How does Wikipedia guard against unconscious bias ? Or does it ?

It is inevitable that editors will attribute greater value or significance to things that English language culture values, and derogate the value of significance of things that English language culture finds less valuable or important.

VarlamTikhonovich
 * If you think a page shows undue bias, you are welcome to tag it with WP:NPOV issues or discuss it on the article's talk page. Sulfurboy (talk) 00:48, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * WikiProject Countering systemic bias is entirely devoted to the issue. Many other projects, such as WikiProject Uruguay and WikiProject Islam, involve themselves in guarding against unconscious bias against particular groups. One of the most effective targeted efforts has been WikiProject Women in red. --Worldbruce (talk) 01:27, 16 May 2020 (UTC)