Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2020 May 18

= May 18 =

03:11:59, 18 May 2020 review of draft by Vannessajg
Hi, I am trying to find out how do I create the reference/source, career and discography sections. Vannessajg (talk) 03:11, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

04:13:51, 18 May 2020 review of draft by $2048cupcakes
Why did my Snake Bite article get declined? $2048cupcakes (talk) 04:13, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia. Sulfurboy (talk) 06:19, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Request on 04:42:09, 18 May 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Janu Mehra JM
Janu Mehra JM (talk) 04:42, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Janu Mehra is an INDIAN🇮🇳 boy.He is Blogger and Influencer.He is Born In JAMMU is Known as The City Of Temple.Born ON 20 October 2001.He completed is Scholling for Bal shiksha kender (B.S.K) chorli Bishnah.He is a Simple and Handsome.

Real Name: Vansh Mehra

INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/janu__mehra/

MOTHER: SMT.Rekha Devi

Father: SH.Ashok Kumar

NATIONALITY: indian🇮🇳

EDUCATION: +2 (2019)
 * Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell the world about themselves, see the autobiography policy. To tell the world about yourself, use social media. 331dot (talk) 07:57, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

06:18:43, 18 May 2020 review of submission by Starsunsmile
Starsunsmile (talk) 06:18, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Your draft is currently highely promotional, which is out of Wikipedia's purpose. I've highlighted soem of the problematic text material using a different text color. Note that your draft currently cites zero reliable sources that are independent of the subject, and therefore fails WP:NCORP. If you havent already, I recommend going through WP:Your first article. 217.68.167.73 (talk) 08:10, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

06:34:52, 18 May 2020 review of draft by Joocha
Hi all, I add "bio" about some person, but this bio already few times declined, by this reason.

Link: "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Giga_Agladze"

Reason: "This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia."

Can you help me what i to do, that this article was correct?

Joocha (talk) 06:34, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * You need to review the Wikipedia definition of a notable creative professional and gather independent reliable sources with significant coverage of this person that can be summarized in an article. If no such sources exist, this person would not merit an article at this time. 331dot (talk) 07:56, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

09:58:43, 18 May 2020 review of submission by Eliassultan
Eliassultan (talk) 09:58, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Request on 10:21:19, 18 May 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Landihan
General advice request on how to show artist's notability. Thanks, --Landihan (talk) 10:21, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

12:35:19, 18 May 2020 review of submission by 41.143.109.56
I'm no near to be affiliated with him. But i saw this draft online and edited it. But why you guys keeps rejecting him? I saw other wikis who shouldn't be anywhere but they are on Wikipedia. Sarcastic right? Are you guys even notable to become an admins of Wiki?? I use to be a user with reviewer role i left it because of crapy admins. No offense to you. But that's the ugly truth. I first joined Wikipedia on 2003. 41.143.109.56 (talk) 12:35, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * you don't need to be notable to become an admin on Wikipedia. In fact, more than 90% of the editors I interact with are not notable or at least don't have an obvivous article on themself]]. Further, I recommend that you have a read of WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. As most of the editors here do that in their free time, its entirely possible for inappropiate content to go undetected even for years. We can only act on things we know about. Victor Schmidt (talk) 16:32, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

13:43:59, 18 May 2020 review of submission by Koto1749
My draft was rejected by notability, but I don't understand why it is not notable. Koto1749 (talk) 13:43, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * As you were told by the reviewers, it appears that the person you were writing about does not meet Wikipedia's special definition of a notable person. "YouTubers" rarely do- and only if independent reliable sources have given them significant coverage. 331dot (talk) 14:21, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, I showed independent Japanese reliable sources and I didn't only show YouTube page. I think these are understandable by Google translation for English speaker. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Koto1749 (talk • contribs)
 * You could ask the reviewer directly if they translated the Japanese sources, but it's entirely possible that they did. 331dot (talk) 14:38, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your advice. I asked the reviewer on this issue.Koto1749 (talk) 15:08, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi. I added additional information of this person to this draft and I think it meets second criteria for musicians and ensembles of this page.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(music)#Criteria_for_musicians_and_ensemblesKoto1749 (talk) 04:31, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

13:50:47, 18 May 2020 review of submission by 93.42.65.231
93.42.65.231 (talk) 13:50, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

14:36:04, 18 May 2020 review of submission by Enzz.v
Good afternoon, My article keeps being refused by admins. I now have added 3 sources to prove the information that I have written but it keeps being refused for references reasons. Can I please have some help on the reason why my article is refused and how to get it accepted? Thank you very much in advance Enzz.v (talk) 14:36, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Have you read WP:NSCHOOL as previously suggested? Theroadislong (talk) 14:41, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * It is not necessarily administrators that are declining your draft. The reviewers have told you why they declined it- is there something that you don't understand about the explanation? Your draft does little more than tell that the school exists. Wikipedia articles must do more, they must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage state about the school. If no such sources exist, it would not merit an article. 331dot (talk) 14:42, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

That is a useless explanation. I have seen other schools with 1) only their website as a source 2) No more information that this one and they are live on wikipedia. Also all the sources cited provide enough information to prove that the school exists!
 * Please have a read of WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Many articles on Wikipedia were created before we we began the ridiculous articles for creation process, and we can only act on things we know. If you could provide a link to such article, we could act on this. Victor Schmidt (talk) 16:28, 18 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Other problematic articles existing does not mean yours can too. See WP:OSE. As this is a volunteer project where people do what they can when they can, it is possible for inappropriate articles to go undetected, even for years. We can only address what we know about. Feel free to point out these other articles so action can be taken. As I said, it is not a matter of proving that the school exists. 331dot (talk) 16:31, 18 May 2020 (UTC)


 * (edit conflict) Hi . Wikipedia is forever a work in progress. It contains high quality articles and poor quality articles. Articles about schools are an interesting case. They have long been required to be notable in order to be included, but for many years there was a parallel contradictory practice that as long as they were high schools or above and could be proven to exist, they would not be deleted. The inconsistency was more or less resolved a few years ago, and substandard school articles are gradually being improved or deleted. The existence of articles that do not meet Wikipedia's current policies and guidelines does not mean they are "allowed". It may simply mean that no one has gotten around to deleting them yet. They are not a good excuse to create more such articles. The essay WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS may help you understand why. If you wish to learn from example articles, be sure to use only Wikipedia's best. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:34, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

15:09:58, 18 May 2020 review of submission by Mahawoo
Please re-review my article and let me know why you rejected me. All of this comtents are my own articles and I mentioned external links and other references. There is no problem with copyright issues. Mahawoo (talk) 15:09, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , You are not notable under Wikipedia's standards. The article has been rejected which means that it will not be considered further. Sulfurboy (talk) 15:53, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

20:32:32, 18 May 2020 review of submission by Rescuderomonte
Rescuderomonte (talk) 20:32, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

I was tasked by my boss with crafting this page on behalf of our firm's pro bono center. I tried to be as nonpromotional as possible. An outright rejection will put me in a tough spot at work. Anything I can do to boost the chances of having at least something published? Many thanks for your time.
 * I regret to say that Wikipedia is completely unconcerned with what your work has tasked you with doing. Related to that, you must read and formally comply with the paid editing policy; a Terms of Use requirement. You should also read conflict of interest. You wrote a blatant advertisement for your firm.  Wikipedia is not a place for organizations to tell about themselves. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that summarizes what independent reliable sources with significant coverage state about topics that meet Wikipedia's special definition of notability(in this case, the definition of a notable organization, please review).  Wikipedia is not interested in what an organization wants to say about itself, only in what others say about it.  Typically, articles are written by independent editors that take note of a subject in reliable sources and choose on their own to write about it.  If you just want to tell the world about this pro bono firm, you should use social media or a website owned and operated by your firm.  Feel free to show your superiors this message. 331dot (talk) 20:37, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

22:40:21, 18 May 2020 review of draft by Ijazkhusravi
Ijazkhusravi (talk) 22:40, 18 May 2020 (UTC) Hello, I created a page for the author Idris Bazorkin but I cannot seem to get it submitted for review. This text still prefaces the page even after I click "publish changes: "This is a draft Articles for creation (AfC) submission. It is not currently pending review. There are no deadlines as long as you are actively improving the submission. Drafts not being improved may be deleted after six months." How can I get this into the queue for review? Thanks!
 * Note that "Publish changes" should be understood to mean "save changes". It does not mean "publish this to the encyclopedia".  To submit your draft for review, please click the blue button in the box at the top of your draft that says "submit your draft for review!" 331dot (talk) 22:48, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

22:47:24, 18 May 2020 review of submission by Haiqar888
Haiqar888 (talk) 22:47, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

You don't ask a question, but your draft has been rejected, meaning there is little to no chance it can be improved to meet standards, and will not be considered further. Please review the comments left by the reviewers. 331dot (talk) 22:50, 18 May 2020 (UTC)