Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2020 May 7

= May 7 =

00:34:20, 7 May 2020 review of submission by Mr. Bikaneri
Mr. Bikaneri (talk) 00:34, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , Did you have a question? Sulfurboy (talk) 05:07, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

02:22:48, 7 May 2020 review of submission by Amazingth
Amazingth (talk) 02:22, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

She is an Actress of CH7HD Thailand and won Miss Southest Asia Tourism Ambassadress 2019 in Malaysia
 * Neither of those things demonstrate notability. Sulfurboy (talk) 05:07, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

03:49:16, 7 May 2020 review of draft by Adockraal
Hello, i keep on editing this article as draft but when i submit it get declined am looking for an assistant now , Thanks Adockraal (talk) 03:49, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , What do you need help with? Sulfurboy (talk) 05:06, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Request on 05:13:43, 7 May 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Adockraal
Help me with my draft Articles Anele Mdoda

Adockraal (talk) 05:13, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , What did you need help with? Sulfurboy (talk) 06:34, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Edit Request
Please remove the notice of speed deletion on Draft:Amit Bhadana (yutuber) made by me. this is not right. This is an Indian YouTuber article which is the most subscribed YouTuber in India. Do not look at this from the perspective of advertising. I am very sad. I gave the correct reference. There is no reason to delete an article that was previously deleted. Whoever has done this may be jealous of India. Only then does one delete that article repeatedly. I request you to keep that article on Wikipedia. Many Indian YouTuber articles are available on Wikipedia. While there are not many good references among them, they are still on Wikipedia. And I have seen many articles which are without reference.

Mary urges you to contribute that article - and keep it on Wikipedia. Because maybe I made a mistake. I request you. Please edit that article. And remove the notice of deletion on it.

Understand my feelings

Draft:Amit Bhadana (yutuber)

Mr. Bikaneri (talk) 06:06, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , Accusing a reviewer of prejudice is probably not a good way to seek advice. You can contest the deletion on the talk page, which it looks like you've already done. This is not the venue for it. Sulfurboy (talk) 06:37, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

06:13:55, 7 May 2020 review of submission by 2402:3A80:1913:909F:6998:1191:CF9D:2B3A
2402:3A80:1913:909F:6998:1191:CF9D:2B3A (talk) 06:13, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

06:38:53, 7 May 2020 review of submission by Temi Akindele
Hi team, I am a Christian musician and I am a verified artist on Spotify and Apple music. I see that other Christian Artists have a wikipedia profile or artile about them whenever you search for them on Google. Some of my fans have asked why I do not have an article on wikipedia so they can know a bit more information about me and that is just what I am trying to do. Can you please advice on how I can go about this?

Regards, Temi Temi Akindele (talk) 06:38, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Pinging as the deleting admin but I suspect it was a blatant advertisement.  Pleas e note that a Wikipedia article about you is not always desireable. Further, please note that ther is not a single person or organisation out there that have an article about them on Wikipedia, it is Wikipedia that has an article about them (Yes, that's a difference). Victor Schmidt (talk) 13:59, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Ya sorry content like His first official single ‘Still God’ is currently making waves and having strong impact all over the world helping God’s children realize the true purpose of serving God. He is passionate about using his gift and talent to praise God in every way doesn't fly here. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 14:03, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

08:48:44, 7 May 2020 review of submission by Luke Seeber
Luke Seeber (talk) 08:48, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I see a bunch of problems here:


 * this draft has zero reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Therefore, it currently fails WP:N, in particular WP:NCORP. WP:42 and WP:V may have additional information about why we are requiring this.
 * this draft currently tells from the company's point of view. Wikipedia articles should maintain a neutral point of view.
 * If you are affilated in any way with the subject or expect compensation for your edits, you need to adhere to WP:COI and WP:PAID and make the appropiate disclosures. The latter is a Terms of Service requirement of Wikipedia. The Wikimedia Foundation has an FAQ on this at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_use/FAQ_on_paid_contributions_without_disclosure. For the english wikipedia there is FAQ you might want to read at FAQ/Organizations. Pinging as the last reviewer if he want's to add something. Victor Schmidt (talk) 13:55, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. Will try to find some reliable and independent sources. Will take a look at the suggestions as I am not sure how to maintain a neutral point of view as it provides information directly linked to the company without any back-links. Not affiliated with the company, trying to contribute to various topics within my occupation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luke Seeber (talk • contribs) 16:02, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

11:27:05, 7 May 2020 review of submission by Pt8340
This is more than 50 years old company. It has more 2.5 million customers worldwide. There are lot of coverage about it in independent, credible and reputated newspapers. This article is written fully neutral point of view. If anybody feel any word or sentence in it is promotional or advertisement please tell me I will correct them. This is following every policy and guidelines of Wikipedia. This should be live on Wikipedia's.

Pt8340 (talk) 11:27, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Pinging  as the last reviewer, but I suspect it's WP:TOSOON.  Please list your best WP:THREE below. You might want to read the following pages: Wikipedia:Relieable sources WP:INDEPENDENT WP:NCORP and last but not least WP:42. You might also want to fix the broken templates in the draft. If you don't know how to do that, ask me and I might do it for you. Victor Schmidt (talk) 13:44, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * since the firm is 50 years old, I doubt TOO SOON applies--the problem that all he references seem either mere notices or press releases--the best, and its very short, seems to be the one from Arabianbusiness.com.  completed-to-create-the-uaes-biggest-remittance-house. It can be very difficult getting good sources for firms such as this, but it will never pass a community discussion in this state.  DGG ( talk ) 23:40, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

12:19:54, 7 May 2020 review of submission by Chef Abhishek Kumar
Chef Abhishek Kumar (talk) 12:19, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Your submission currently has zero reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Please read WP:42. If you are the subject of the article, please be advised that we strongely discourage autobiographys. Further, I have to tell you that a wikipedia article about oneselves might not be desireable. Victor Schmidt (talk) 13:39, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

13:21:49, 7 May 2020 review of submission by Themajidi
Hello! I recently submitted a draft article on Zayn Africa (Musical Artist) with citations which includes interviews from notable Newspapers sources which are independent & secondary in Nigeria, Africa. It got declined. I need your assistance, please check to confirm. Thank you.

Themajidi (talk) 13:21, 7 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi Themajidi for your topic first look at Notability (music) mostly the criteria for WP:SINGER - it currently does not look like that match any of these. The subject could also pass via Notability (people) or WP:GNG. Apart from specific music criteria such as charting etc, most come down to requiring significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources to show notability. The two article included as references are a good start but not quite enough for notability. See if you can find any-more coverage. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 16:09, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

15:08:17, 7 May 2020 review of submission by Jrthpt
This entry presents a theoretical/conceptual model that aids organizations in dealing with and managing complexity. It is a new conceptual model and has been supported in a various publications (refereed and non-refereed). There is no advertisement of any company or product in this entry. This entry is not commercial, especially when compared to a number of currently published wikipedia articles. I could list more that a dozen here as I did in my last entry. This is not a commercial article, it is an article introducing a new conceptual model that has been supported by both industry and academia.

Why not let the community decide? Isn't this what wikipedia is geared toward, letting the public edit and alter as they see fit? Also, if there is a way to edit the submitted article please provide details. I can edit but I have gotten nowhere being redirected to a list of indexes on questions as they have not provided any information related to the comments received in the rejection of the submitted article.

John Jrthpt (talk) 15:08, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * You say "why not let the community decide?" the community HAS decided, your draft has been rejected because the topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. It also reads as promotional essay see WP:NOTPROMOTION and WP:NOTESSAY for more details. Theroadislong (talk) 15:27, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

15:43:24, 7 May 2020 review of submission by Jrthpt
Looking for advice on how to edit the submitted article for approval? Jrthpt (talk) 15:43, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * See above. Please don't open multiple threads. You can use "edit section" next to the section headings to edit a particular section. Victor Schmidt (talk) 16:06, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

16:46:10, 7 May 2020 review of submission by MediaInputOman
unsure of what the problem is - all facts and correct MediaInputOman (talk) 16:46, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

MediaInputOman (talk) 16:46, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a place to post a resume. Please see Your first article for more information. If you work for or represent the subject, you must review and comply with the paid editing policy and the conflict of interest policy. 331dot (talk) 17:01, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

17:22:19, 7 May 2020 review of submission by DD Business
DD Business (talk) 17:22, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , Did you have a question? Sulfurboy (talk) 17:59, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

17:27:55, 7 May 2020 review of submission by DD Business
Hey I am Yung 48’s manager. We wanted to make a Wikipedia page for his fans so they can read about him. We wounder why you declined our page. We are the only one who know Yung 48 and we are the one who can write things about him. He is a very popular artist and we thought it would be good if he had a wiki page. DD Business (talk) 17:27, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , The article has been rejected which means that a fellow reviewer judged the subject as having no shot of demonstrating notability. I would second this conclusion. Also, as his manager you need to properly disclose as a paid editor. I've posted the applicable information to your talk page. Sulfurboy (talk) 18:00, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

17:30:38, 7 May 2020 review of submission by Queenofboston
I scrupulously followed all editorial advice and provided numerous sources, including secondary independent sources. I see that another post with very few references that does not respect the advise I have been given as reason for rejecting my post has been approved within days of its creation. The post approved is The Europeans (podcast). The subject has less coverage and subsequently less external links and sources. Half of the references are to their own content, at odds with Wikipedia's policy that I have been communicated. I have been asked to review my posts for motives and requirements that were clearly not applied in the case of this new post for The Europeans (podcast). This was a lot of hard work and I take the Wikipedia policy seriously therefore I am very disenchanted to see double standards applied. Queenofboston (talk) 17:30, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , Please see WP:INN. Your article has been rejected which means a fellow reviewer has deemed that there is no shot at demonstrating notability. As such, it will not be considered further. I would recommend in the future not creating articles that you have an apparent WP:COI with Cheers Sulfurboy (talk) 18:04, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , I fully disclosed the WP:COI and followed the pathway for approval. The article I referred to did not disclose a conflict of interest although it is apparent from timing that it was made in consultation with the subject of the article, if not at the request of the subject of the article. Additionally, I have added more references to evidence WP:INN as requested and beyond what has been provided in approved articles I have used as reference. Please do not punish my content because of my full disclosure and honesty.

17:45:00, 7 May 2020 review of submission by Nebojsa.durmanovic
What exactly was the reason the page wasn't allowed to enter Wikipedia? I thought it had as much as relevant info as the P.S: Fashion page. There aren't enough references online for FUSH d.o.o. as it is. The company is an important company in the scope of Serbian companies and it deserves a Wikipedia page.

Nebojsa.durmanovic (talk) 17:45, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , Per the decline message: This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia. Sulfurboy (talk) 18:05, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

18:38:31, 7 May 2020 review of submission by Ronaldo1948
When my article on Matthews Southern Comfort was accepted yesterday, it was published as needing two citations in the introductory section. The first I have fixed by rephrasing the wording, the second by providing a reference to the album releases from Discogs. Having done that I am totally unsure of how to delete the Citation Needed maintenance flag. Rather than do something totally erroneous, could I ask an experienced editor who fully understands these things to please do it for me, as I don't really suffiiciently understand this aspect of Wikipedia. Thanks.

Ronaldo1948 (talk) 18:38, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , It still looks like there are entire sections of text without inline cites, so the tag is appropriate. Also, discogs is not considered a reliable source. Please see WP:RS Sulfurboy (talk) 22:55, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

18:50:42, 7 May 2020 review of submission by Didgeri
As suggested, I have improved the references basis Wikipedia guidelines. Consider the request to kindly re-review the same and help in publishing the article. Didgeri (talk) 18:50, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , The article is still primarily sourced by press releases, blackhat seo sources, or are primary interviews. What's left is routine or doesn't show significant coverage. Further, the article has been rejected which means it will not be considered further. Sulfurboy (talk) 22:53, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , This is absolutely vague. Could you please highlight which references look like press releases or blackhat SEO sources to you. Moreover please convey which references don't show significant coverage about the subject.

19:04:05, 7 May 2020 review of submission by Manwithcups
I'm wondering what further media sources I should include. I've references full articles about the subject webpage from The Austin Chronicle, BBC Trending and Daily Dot as well as various other articles that mention it in reference to the trend it started. What am I missing? Manwithcups (talk) 19:04, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , Upon second review, I've decided to accept this. Cheers Sulfurboy (talk) 23:30, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

19:51:14, 7 May 2020 review of submission by Eternalstar007
Software companies have been able to list their apps with minimal citations in Wikipedia so users can view their history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PDF_software This is not a comprehensive list of all available applications, and articles on the listed software seem to provide minimal information and do not explain the history of the apps. Yet, my article was considered a press release? Should the article be stripped of its citations to press releases, citing version history? Otherwise, there appears to be some favoritism here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABBYY_FineReader https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF_Studio https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF_Expert_(software) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF_Signer

Perhaps the article be revised to match FineReader, PDF Studio or PDF Experts?

Eternalstar007 (talk) 19:51, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , Please see WP:INN. If you have issues with other pages, you are welcome to nominate them for deletion or tag them appropriately. Your article was overly promotional and rejected. As such, it will not be considered further at this time. Please in the future do not use Wikipedia for promotion. There are much better outlets for it. Sulfurboy (talk) 22:46, 7 May 2020 (UTC)