Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2020 November 1

= November 1 =

07:50:29, 1 November 2020 review of submission by DimZoum
Hello! I request assistance for the above draft, because: 1) I have included every independent source that i have found on the internet about the subject. 2) I compared my article with others which are published, and i saw that is sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. DimZoum (talk) 07:50, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * The draft has been rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. Please see other stuff exists. It is usually not a good idea to make comparisons to other existing articles, as those too could be problematic. As this is a volunteer project where people do what they can when they can, it is possible to get inappropriate articles by us. This does not mean that yours can exist too.  Each article or draft is judged on its own merits. If you would care to point out these other articles, we can address them; we could use the help. 331dot (talk) 09:01, 1 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the answer. But, with no offence, it's like you are telling me that it's not about how well you write an article, but about how lucky you are to get it reviewed by someone who will not observe your mistakes and publish it. I am a volunteer like you, so by getting an article rejected instead of point my mistakes and let me write it again, don't think that it helps either of us. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DimZoum (talk • contribs)
 * You can ask the last reviewer of your draft directly as to why they rejected it, but it seems that the topic does not meet notability guidelines- and if the reviewer rejected it instead of merely declining it, they must think that the prospect of the topic meeting those guidelines is low to nonexistent at this time and that it would be a waste of time, both for you and reviewers, for you to resubmit it again. Please review the comments given to you carefully.
 * It is true that it is not about how well you write. No amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability, nor can how well you write your text.  331dot (talk) 10:24, 1 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks again, i will try to contact him.

08:38:07, 1 November 2020 review of draft by Fgnew
Can anyone check this page to review this page again I've solved the issues and all. I think the creator summited wrong reference links. I've changed it. Kindly, check it and do the needful to publish it.

Fgnew (talk) 08:38, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , I've submitted the page for review. Snowycats (talk) 19:36, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

09:01:56, 1 November 2020 review of submission by Gyurka00
Hi,

He is a famous Hungarian luthier. The group of people who has this job is quite small (and usually they are from the older generation). I put references in international forums where people recommend his work and Hungarian articles about his job and honors. What can I add more to accept this Wikipedia page?

BR, Gyurka00 Gyurka00 (talk) 09:01, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , Other Wikis are not valid sources. Also, minimal improvements were made & and neither of the two sources provided significant coverage of the subject, and were only passing mentions. Snowycats (talk) 19:37, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

10:53:53, 1 November 2020 review of submission by BenNeumann23
The information on this coach was sourced from the official Thai League website (https://www.thaileague.co.th/headcoach-info/?id=4708).

Additional sources include:

https://supersubthailand.com/th/news/97027-%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%99%E0%B9%8C-%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B3%E0%B8%8A%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%9A-%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B0%E0%B8%97%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%87%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%A5%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%87-%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%99%E0%B9%89%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%95%E0%B9%88%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%94%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%A5-%E0%B8%9B%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A3-%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%97%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%95%E0%B8%A2%E0%B9%8C%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%B5%E0%B9%89

https://int.soccerway.com/teams/thailand/bangkok-fc/17674/matches/ BenNeumann23 (talk) 10:53, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

The information on this coach was sourced from the official Thai League website

Additional sources include:

BenNeumann23 (talk) 10:56, 1 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi . Is there a question you need help with? Reviewers have seen that you used the official Thai League website as a source. SuperSub Thailand has also appeared among your references before, although neither it nor soccerway contain significant coverage of Neumann. Being verifiable is a necessary condition, but not a sufficient reason for an encyclopedia article about a person. The subject must be notable, that is "worthy of notice", "remarkable", or "significant, interesting, or unusual enough to deserve attention or to be recorded". Neumann is not. He fails to meet the subject-specific inclusion criteria, because Thai League 3 is not a fully professional league. That's why the draft has been rejected, and why volunteers do not intend to review it again. --Worldbruce (talk) 13:59, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * This is, in summary, the exact thing I told him last time he was here. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Takes a strong man to deny... 17:07, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

12:44:52, 1 November 2020 review of submission by Natashahere
I am requesting a re review because Sani Baysal owns several companies such as StartLiving Ltd, ErBa GmbH, AkuKun Ltd and Charisma Loyal Ltd, all of which are prominent in their respective fields. Thus, I feel like he deserves a place on the internet as a young, successful entrepreneur whose contributions and work deserve to be acknowledged. I would like to add that I do not know the subject personally and have no conflicts of interest whatsoever. I request you to please consider having his presence on wikipedia.

Thank you.

Natashahere (talk) 12:44, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. Wikipedia is not a forum to merely recognize people's successful careers and is unconcerned with anyone's "internet presence".  A person must meet notability guidelines, as shown with significant coverage in independent reliable sources, to merit a Wikipedia article.  If you just want to tell the world about this person, there are appropriate alternative forums for that purpose. 331dot (talk) 12:48, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I am curious as to how you came to write about this person. 331dot (talk) 12:50, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

14:48:41, 1 November 2020 review of submission by Michaelstarwolf9
Article advice wo make it better and not rejected Michaelstarwolf9 (talk) 14:48, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Your draft has been rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. Wikipedia is not a place for companies or people to tell the world about themselves. Please review WP:PROMO, WP:COI, WP:PAID, and WP:AUTO. 331dot (talk) 14:52, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

17:16:50, 1 November 2020 review of submission by The Presenter
Hello, I saw ask for advice and that is why I send this request , thanks in advance for help. First, I know that I maybe was wrong cause I didn't put a lot of reference and this is my first article and I really worked hard to collect the data. however, I will put below 2 famous newspapers / Journal sites " Nabd.com and elwatannews.com " that takes about the person in my Article

https://alwan.elwatannews.com/news/details/4227278/%D9%85%D9%88%D8%B8%D9%81-%D9%8A%D9%84%D9%81-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85-%D8%A8%D8%AC%D8%B2%D8%A1-%D9%85%D9%86-%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AA%D8%A8%D9%87-%D8%B4%D9%87%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A7-%D9%85%D9%86-%D8%BA%D9%8A%D8%B1-%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AA%D9%87-%D9%88%D8%B9%D9%8A%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%87

https://nabd.com/s/65747593-3034ac/%D9%85%D9%88%D8%B8%D9%81-%D9%8A%D9%84%D9%81-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85-%D8%A8%D8%AC%D8%B2%D8%A1-%D9%85%D9%86-%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AA%D8%A8%D9%87-%D8%B4%D9%87%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A7%D9%8B-%D9%85%D9%86-%D8%BA%D9%8A%D8%B1-%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AA%D9%87-%D9%88%D8%B9%D9%8A%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%87

Thanks a lot again for your advice to tell me ignore this article or update any needed data :-)

The Presenter (talk) 17:16, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I wasn't able to review the two sources you provided here since I cant read them, so I am yust giving you advice on what I can find in the draft:


 * Wikipedia is not interested in a rerun of the Seigenthaler incident]. Every claim you want to make about a living person needs to be backed up with a reliable source.
 * The draft is sourced soely to user-generated websites such as Facebook, Instagram and Youtube, but they are not regarded as reliable.
 * the draft currently does not make a claim how this subject meets WP:NPERSON.
 * Note that the draft has been rejected, which means that unless you come up with a credible claim for WP:NPERSON the reviewers don't intend on looking at it again in the foreseeable future. Victor Schmidt (talk) 18:47, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

17:55:51, 1 November 2020 review of submission by Xəyal Haşımov
Xəyal Haşımov (talk) 17:55, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

This singer is well known in Turkey and Azerbaijan. Please help to have an article on Wikipedia. Xəyal Haşımov (talk) 17:55, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * And the criteria of WP:NMUSIC that applies would be ...? Note that this article is a classic case of WP:REFBOMB. Victor Schmidt (talk) 18:35, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

18:42:59, 1 November 2020 review of submission by Publicspeaker2020
Publicspeaker2020 (talk) 18:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * You don't ask a question, but your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 18:45, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

20:27:15, 1 November 2020 review of submission by Olujimi Olumayowa
Good day, Thank you for your feedback regarding the review of the above mentioned draft, I would like to know what area(s) within the article need correction or improvement so that I may get to work on them.

I hope to get a response soon. Thank you once again.

Olujimi Olumayowa (talk) 20:27, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , You need to add inline citations, as mentioned in the reason for decline. Snowycats (talk) 02:25, 2 November 2020 (UTC)