Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2020 November 11

= November 11 =

05:54:31, 11 November 2020 review of submission by Avishung
Hi, the main reason for the rejection is not enough notability, however, it would be great to provide a further explanation and advice on what other information is needed for approval. Avishung (talk) 05:54, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia articles must do more than merely tell about the existence of the company and what it does. They must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable company. Sources like the company website, staff interviews, announcements of routine business transactions, product descriptions, and other brief mentions do not establish notability. In addition, the use of the term "startup" strongly suggests it is far too soon for an article about this company; typically only established companies merit articles. Please read Your First Article for more information.
 * If you are associated with this company, please review conflict of interest and paid editing for information on formal disclosures you may be required to make. 331dot (talk) 08:59, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

08:52:05, 11 November 2020 review of submission by Weareme234
I have make it perfect please submit it Weareme234 (talk) 08:52, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * As you were told, your draft was rejected, meaning it will not be considered further. Please consider the advice given by the reviewer. 331dot (talk) 08:55, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

09:53:10, 11 November 2020 review of draft by AppleMacKing
Hello, I wrote an article about ProjectWizards GmbH and used the same words and terms as an article from another Wikipedia article about IGG Software. Also there is an article about ProjectWizards GmnH in the German Wikipedia. So I'm confused, why the article was rejected. Can you please help me, what exactly can I change to not be rejected?

Thanks.

AppleMacKing (talk) 09:53, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Each language version of Wikipedia is its own project, with its own editors and policies. As such, what is acceptable on one version is not necessarily acceptable on another version.  Also, it is not usually a good argument to cite other similar articles as a reason for yours to exist.  As this is a volunteer project, it is possible to get inappropriate articles by us.  We can only address what we know about.  It could be that the other articles are also problematic- as IGG Software was(which I have now tagged).
 * As you were told by the reviewer, the sources you have provided do not establish that this company meets the special English Wikipedia definition of a notable company. You must provide independent reliable sources that have chosen on their own to give this company significant coverage, showing how the company is notable.  Significant coverage goes beyond simple announcements and goes in depth about the subject.  Such sources do not include the company website, staff interviews, announcements of routine business transactions, press releases, or other primary sources.  Please see Your First Article for more information. 331dot (talk) 10:20, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

15:23:08, 11 November 2020 review of submission by 209.146.21.10
209.146.21.10 (talk) 15:23, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * This draft has been rejected and will not be considered further. Wikipedia does not host resumes or cirricula vitae; try LinkedIn. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Takes a strong man to deny... 19:11, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Request on 18:32:51, 11 November 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Bengals93
To whom it may concern,

I wanted to reach out because I recently submitted a draft page titled "Athens College of Ministry" that was declined by another user. The user cited that there were not secondary sources to acknowledge the titled subject, Athens College of Ministry. I wanted to see if it I could receive assistance with this in getting this page published as it seems that there is plenty of material in the local Athens area that has mentioned the Athens College of Ministry. I will include a few sources that I found just from a simple google search. I'll be happy to answer any questions and look forward to hopefully receiving assistance with this. Thank you!

Mentions of Athens College of Ministry that I found (this list is not exhaustive): https://www.chea.org/athens-college-ministry https://marketersmedia.com/athens-college-of-ministry-stays-true-to-calling-in-face-of-challenges/396402 http://www.oconeecountyobservations.org/2019/12/oconee-commissioners-approve-request-by.html https://patch.com/georgia/oconee/life-church-athens-allowed-withdraw-application-permit https://www.causeiq.com/organizations/athens-college-of-ministry,271288541/ https://flagpole.com/news/in-the-loop/2017/01/17/a-bible-college-wants-to-build-its-campus-on-an-old-oconee-county-golf-course/ https://www.livinghopeathens.org/discipleship https://www.smithplanninggroup.com/athens-college-of-ministry https://www.guidestar.org/profile/27-1288541

-Alex, username Bengals93

Bengals93 (talk) 18:32, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Mere "mentions" do not work. We're looking for articles that discuss the college in some depth. As to the sources you present:
 * CHEA looks like a listing and is thus not useful
 * Marketers Media is explicitly labeled a press release
 * Oconee County Observations is a blog
 * Patch is a name-drop
 * CauseIQ is a listing
 * Flagpole is a blog
 * Living Hope Athens is a name-drop and wouldn't be an acceptable source anyhow because it's a church detailing its worship practices
 * Smith Planning Group is responsible for planning out the college
 * Guidestar is a listing
 * So none of those sources are at all usable. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Takes a strong man to deny... 19:10, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

18:53:27, 11 November 2020 review of submission by Giakuan
Hi there, Elizabeth Margulies is quite a notable personality and has quite a lot of top tier publications cite her work, so a little confused for the decline. Would love any suggestions if possible!

Giakuan (talk) 18:53, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * First, please see WP:GNG. Second, which of the references in the article write about Margulies, the individual, in depth? Then, subtract any references that depend on the subject herself as a source of information (interviews, press releases, the subject's own website). Then, we would discard any source that isn't a mainstream reliable source with an established reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. (Mainstream newspapers, magazines, books released by mainstream publishers are good. Faceless websites/blogs/portals/data sheets are not.) What's left? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:14, 11 November 2020 (UTC)