Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2020 November 15

= November 15 =

00:14:39, 15 November 2020 review of draft by Excel23
Need an opinion on this article to see if it has a chance at getting accepted. Excel23 (talk) 00:14, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

...or not. Go ahead and reply to everyone else but mine. That's cool. I'll just wait over 3 months to have it reviewed and see if it gets declined again over trivial things so I can just fix them and wait another 3 months and before I know it 2 years will go by. I'm not abandoning this article I've come too far at this point.--Excel23 (talk) 20:23, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

10:34:09, 15 November 2020 review of submission by Poopas1994
Poopas1994 (talk) 10:34, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

HELLO I HAVE SEEN ALL YOUR COMMENTS. HOW DO I MAKE IT BETTER? IF YOU DONT FIND THIS NOTABLE TO BE PUBLISHED THEN MAYBE SOME OTHER TIME WHEN ITS MORE NOTIBLE FOR WIKI--Poopas1994 (talk) 10:34, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
 * (Please dont write in ALL CAPITAL letters. Its considered rude.) Victor Schmidt (talk) 12:05, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

15:55:03, 15 November 2020 review of draft by Bablu Khatyasni
Bablu Khatyasni (talk) 15:55, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
 * You don't ask a question, but your text would be completely unsuitable as a Wikipedia article. Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell the world about themselves. We're only interested in what independent reliable sources say about you. Please read the autobiography policy as well. 331dot (talk) 16:30, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

17:09:15, 15 November 2020 review of draft by מתיאל
מתיאל (talk) 17:09, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not interested in a rerun of the Seigenthaler incident. Every claim you want to make needs to be backed up with a reliable source. Amongst other sections, the "As an architect" section is almost complately unsourced. Take a look at WP:REFB for reference formatting. Victor Schmidt (talk) 17:17, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

17:51:37, 15 November 2020 review of submission by Adrian Hood
I have no idea what I am doing, I need help to set up a page. Is there anyone I can talk to via an online message or over the phone! THANKS Adrian Hood (talk) 17:51, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I assume this is about Adrian Hood. The current page does not cite any sources and therefore fails both the policy for biographys of living persons and WP:NPERSON. Based on your username I gather this is an autobiography, please be advised that a Wikipedia article may not nessesarely be desireable. I strongely reccomed that you go back to create draftspace versions, even if you can crate articles directly. Wikipedia editors aren't going to phone you usally (because they could be from the other half of the earth, amongst other reasons). For your next attempt, I recommend that you follow the following steps:

Congratulations, you have now created a valid Wikipedia article.
 * First, review our guideline on notability, our policy on Verifiability, and our general notability guideline (GNG). Consider whether your  subject  clearly meets the standards listed there. Also, check  if the topic is already covered, perhaps under a different spelling or in a section of an article about a wider topic. You will waste a lot of time, if you create a new article, and then find that the encyclopedia already has an article about that.
 * Second, read how to create Your First Article and referencing for beginners and again consider if you want to go ahead.
 * Third,  This is absolutely required; omitting it can result in you being blocked from further editing. 
 * Fourth, gather sources. You want independent, professionally published, reliable sources with each discussing the subject in some detail. If you can't find several such sources, stop; an article will not be created! Sources do NOT need to be online, or in English, although it is helpful if at least some are. The "independent" part is vital. Wikipedia does not consider as independent sources such as press releases, or news stories based on press releases, or anything published by the subject itself or an affiliate of the subject. Strictly local coverage is also not preferred. Regional or national newspapers or magazines, books published by mainstream publishers (not self-published), or scholarly journals are usually good. So are online equivalents of these. (Additional sources may verify particular statements but not discuss the subject in detail. But those significant detailed sources are needed first.)
 * Fifth, use the article wizard to create a draft under the articles for creation project. This is always a good idea for an inexperienced editor, but in the case of an editor with a conflict of interest it is essential.
 * Sixth, use the sources gathered before (and other sources you may find along the way) to write the article. Cite all significant statements to sources. Do not express opinions or judgements, unless they are explicitly attributed to named people or entities, preferably in a direct quotation, and cited to a source. Do not use puffery or marketing-speak. Provide page numbers, dates, authors and titles for sources to the extent these are available. A title is always needed. Submit the draft when you think it is ready for review. Be prepared to wait a while for a review (several weeks or more).
 * Seventh, when (well perhaps if) your draft is declined, pay attention to the comments of the reviewer, and correct the draft and resubmit it. During this whole process, if you face any unresolvable editing hurdles, or cannot comprehend any editing issue, feel free to post a request and ask the regulars. Repeat this until the draft passes review.
 * Note that I strongely reccomend that you go to the Teahouse after completing step 4, listing your sources. Victor Schmidt (talk) 18:18, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

17:54:41, 15 November 2020 review of submission by 201.211.164.77
we have to be open to all content, and also be good and the creation article button should be in the main page.

201.211.164.77 (talk) 17:54, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I am afraid that your logic is mistaken: Wikipedia is a free encyclopedia. Click the blue text to find out what the word "encyclopedia" means. Encyclopedias have a certain scope. This is out of scope. See WP:INDISCRIMINATE Victor Schmidt (talk) 18:22, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
 * This feels more like a list of pseudo-inspriational signs you can buy at that trendy interior decorating place, to remind you that "Life is emotion" as you tearfully blubber about your recent divorce into a litre of whiskey. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:12, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

17:57:23, 15 November 2020 review of draft by Thestripey
Hi Nathan and the Wikipedia editors,Before I re-submit the draft, I would like to understand, if  by your comment of - This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. - is it  the way I've added  the references are wrong, or you mean that they are not reliable.From the information below - I need to understand if the musician needs to answer all the 12 points, or just to cover a few. Thestripey (talk) 17:57, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Sources need to be formatted correctly though this is not usually a reason for declining, see WP:REFB for help with them. Theroadislong (talk) 18:22, 15 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi, the way you have embedded your sources as inline external links makes it very difficult to evaluate them. Please see the Referencing for beginners guide on how to format your references. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:21, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

18:14:03, 15 November 2020 review of submission by Kellyannpowers76
Hello, I have updated all references within the article about the subject, Oli London, with relibale sources that mention the subject in depth. I have also updated the subjects biography with more releavnt and recent information that shows the subjects notability on TV and in the media to show that they qualify for a page.

Please let me know if I need to change anything else.

Thank you;

Kelly-Ann

Kellyannpowers76 (talk) 18:14, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
 * The Sun newspaper, The Daily Mail and YouTube are not suitable sources, the draft was rejected, which usually means it will not be considered further. Theroadislong (talk) 18:20, 15 November 2020 (UTC)