Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2020 November 16

= November 16 =

01:54:04, 16 November 2020 review of draft by Ezzpin
I need help editing and reveiweing a page i made Thanks! Ezzpin (talk) 01:54, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * The film appears to be called Christmas Break-In, not Christmas Break In; Netflix shows that the film was released in 2019, not 2018; and it doesn't seem to have the 73% approval rating at Rotten Tomatoes as you've claimed. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:57, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

05:18:55, 16 November 2020 review of submission by Bablu Khatyasni
Bablu Khatyasni (talk) 05:18, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * We are not social media and we do not accept biographies of living people that have zero published secondary references. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Takes a strong man to deny... 06:35, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

05:40:34, 16 November 2020 review of submission by Lưu Tân Tân
Lưu Tân Tân (talk) 05:40, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * This draft has been rejected and will not be considered further. Published sources are required. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Takes a strong man to deny... 06:34, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

07:59:20, 16 November 2020 review of draft by Yiyeant
My submission was declined because the sources were not reliable and the article appeared to the reviewer as promotional but I verified these sources are being used in other published pages as reliable references and want to know which portions are promotional sounding so I can work on it. I have already asked the reviewer twice on their talkpage about this but I have not get any response till now so seeking help here. Any suggestion or feedback will be highly appreciated. Thank you. Yiyeant (talk) 07:59, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * That something is done on another article does not necessarily mean that you can do it too, please see other stuff exists. As this is a volunteer project, it is possible to get inappropriate content by us.  We can only address what we know about.  It is possible that the circumstances of those other article make the content acceptable there, but not here.  Your draft does little more than tell of the existence of the website and what it does.  Wikipedia articles must do more, they must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the website, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable website.  Please see Your First Article for more information. 331dot (talk) 10:27, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Request on 09:41:12, 16 November 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Lhp98
All pages are being declined or deleted! Hi, I was just wondering if you'd be able to help me, I am trying my best to edit and reference as well as I can. I've done a page called Mark Deeble, Victoria Stone and another page called Deeble & Stone. All of which have been deleted. I am not sure what else I can do as I am trying to reference as well as I can. Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you !

Lhp98 (talk) 09:41, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * The draft mentioned here is sourced to nothing but the person's own website. A Wikipedia article must be sourced to independent reliable sources with significant coverage of the topic, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of (in this case) a notable creative professional. Please see Your First Article for more information. 331dot (talk) 10:24, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * And for further context, the Deeble & Stone draft was deleted as being a flagrant copyright violation, which I would think most people would understand to be a no-no. A glaring issue with the Victoria Deeble article is that it doesn't meet proper encyclopedic tone, opining about the "ground-breaking"-ness of their work, and containing language like: "Deeble and Stone are still very much filming and creating, when they aren't at home in Cornwall, they will be flying small planes and eating breakfast with elephants in Kenya. We can only hope to see more of their magical work in time to come." Encyclopedias don't lavish praise or express hope. We are neutral. That article also does not seem to meet our general notability guideline, as per the notes at the top of the giant pink box at top. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:53, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

09:53:05, 16 November 2020 review of draft by Uri Rosenbach
Uri Rosenbach (talk) 09:53, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

The article was rejected with the claim that it appears it came from the artist's website. The reviewer mentioned in particular the list of exhibitions. This list, however comes from the website of the Israel Museum, which I assumed to be an acceptable source. The other information has also been adapted from neutral sources including public galleries and museums' exhibition pages, magazine articles, etc. I am not sure where is the problem.


 * Hi . The problem with the biography section is the sourcing. It cites only two sources. The first is simply his name on a list, and supports only that he's a faculty member. The second is a shallow link, again to his name on a list. It supports nothing, but it could be (and should be) replaced by a deeper link that would support some of the content in the section. Any content for which you cannot cite a reliable published source (perhaps, for example, that he was a paratrooper, has six children, his brother is Golan Azoulay, ...) must be removed.


 * The work section is full of opinions, such as "The relationship between the painting and Hasidism, or between painting and tradition and faith, occupies Azoulay in his works", and "Azoulay’s painting are an expression of his life." Such things may not be stated in Wikipedia's voice. Attribute them inline, as you have started doing with the Osnat Mozes committee.


 * I've modified the first one or two entries in the list of exhibitions, awards and prizes, and collections to illustrate correct list formatting, linking, referencing, and manual of style issues. Do the same for the remaining entries on the lists.


 * For "select" lists, make the selection criteria explicit. The list of group exhibitions is long and appears indiscriminate. Consider limiting it to those exhibitions where his work attracted significant independent attention. The list of awards and prizes also appears indiscriminate. A good rule of thumb is that if the only people to report on an award are the granter and the recipient, it isn't an encyclopedia-worthy award. One final note on lists, avoid citing sources within the section heading. Instead add a sentence introducing the list and cite the source there.


 * After revising the body, rewrite the lead. It should tell the reader in the first sentence or two why this artist is notable. --Worldbruce (talk) 14:50, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

10:07:08, 16 November 2020 review of draft by Johnhoye1
Hi there, my article has been turned down for lack of a reliable source. In the article there are 5 links to 5 BBC productions confirming the involvement, a link to an online poster from the Queen's Theatre West End also confirming the involvement and in external links a link to the London Theatre News again confirming the involvement. Just wondering what to do next. Thank you. Johnhoye1 (talk) 10:07, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Sorry I'd like to add to my last request, I forgot to mention there is a link to the band Urchin in Wiki in which John Hoye is mentioned as a member. Thanks

Johnhoye1 (talk) 10:11, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * For further comment, please edit this existing section, instead of creating additional sections. Is there a reason you are referring to yourself in the third person?  Wikipedia needs more than brief announcements; article content must be supported with independent reliable sources with significant coverage, not just brief mentions.  Those sources must have chosen on their own to give you such coverage.  Please see Your First Article for more information, as well as the autobiography policy. 331dot (talk) 10:21, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

12:34:51, 16 November 2020 review of submission by Utkarshkothari
Why did you delete my draft article. If it is promotional, please suggest direct changes.


 * Hi . I didn't see the draft before it was deleted, but if the subject was unsuitable for an encyclopedia, then even the existence of a page about it could be promotional. I advise changing your topic. There are millions of existing articles you could improve. See Task Center if you aren't sure where to start. --Worldbruce (talk) 13:39, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

13:09:22, 16 November 2020 review of submission by Ingletrushant
Ingletrushant (talk) 13:09, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

15:24:25, 16 November 2020 review of submission by Kuruvillac
Kuruvillac (talk) 15:24, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Please could you review the draft Adeeb Ahmed. It’s been pending for long. Thank you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Adeeb_Ahamed_(businessman) (Kuruvillac (Kuruvillac (talk) 15:24, 16 November 2020 (UTC))

15:54:14, 16 November 2020 review of submission by Zinovia.panagopoulou
I would like some clarifications regarding why this draft was considered a spam. Thank you in advance. Zinovia.panagopoulou (talk) 15:54, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * The article is basically a lot of exhaustive lists, not prose. Stick to the most significant things, and don't use lists - write out paragraphs. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Takes a strong man to deny... 22:11, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

16:53:41, 16 November 2020 review of draft by RachvO2020
Looking to create an article on the Choreographer Paul Roberts that includes a bio and media coverage, to be able to update other pages of Wikipedia with Choreography and Stage Direction projects that he has been involved with.

Would be interested in getting some guidance on how to: - Create an article that passes review? - Link it to the Wiki Dance project section? - Add a bio template? - Enable other people to contribute details - Disambiguate as there are multiple Paul Roberts listed already

Thanks, RachvO2020 (talk) 16:53, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

RachvO2020 (talk) 16:53, 16 November 2020 (UTC)