Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2020 November 9

= November 9 =

00:27:34, 9 November 2020 review of submission by Panda619
This article was rejected many months ago based on a AfD from February 2020, but now I think It has been expanded with lot of new information, sources, notable improvements and lot of new WP:SIGCOV since that, It can still be expanded, written in better way and improved but I think its time to publish the draft. Panda619 (talk) 00:27, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

03:35:35, 9 November 2020 review of draft by Ljscott
Creating a citation, the author's name is Chi Ming Lai but the citation template wants a 'last name' and 'first name'. I've had experience with Asian names where the last name is actually the first word, but with this author I've not been able to confirm that. In my draft, I've just put the whole name in the 'last name' field. Is this okay, or is there a different field I should be using when the last name/first name order is not known...? Ljscott (talk) 03:35, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Ljscott (talk) 03:35, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Potentially you could use author, but I'd keep an eye out here in case someone has a better idea. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:54, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, and I guess I should mention that the various parameters can be found at Template:Cite web, which I think might have been the template in question. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:56, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

13:08:38, 9 November 2020 review of submission by Ervikasbhargava
I want to know what problem happened in this article due to which it is not a notable article. This article completes the WP:BASIC criteria which is:

People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.

There are 10 sources on the page that fall into the requirements on the page. He is a Bollywood FILMMAKER and is also named in another Wikipedia article, Newspaper.

This Article also follows "WP:AUTHOR" criteria.

''Creative professionals "WP:AUTHOR" redirects here. For information about the authorship of Wikipedia articles, see Ownership of content. WP:FILMMAKER Authors, editors, journalists, filmmakers, photographers, artists, architects, and other creative professionals:

The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors. ''The person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory, or technique. ''The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of an independent and notable work (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series) or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews.

Could you please explain why this article not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia?

And what else can I add notable cites to this article?

could you elaborate upon this for me?

Kind Regards,

Ervikasbhargava (talk) 13:08, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

14:17:52, 9 November 2020 review of submission by Supah Pablo
I created a page that is currently named Tiago Barros (DJ). I was trying to change it to DJEFF (DJ). I looked up online on how to change it, and I don't have the option to 'Move'. I was hoping someone could help me changing it. Looking forward to hear from you guys. Kind regards, Paulo Marques Supah Pablo (talk) 14:17, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

14:27:07, 9 November 2020 review of draft by 49.145.243.89
Because I need to see it to the American people to watch somewhere new.

49.145.243.89 (talk) 14:27, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

14:28:15, 9 November 2020 review of submission by 49.145.243.89
Because I need to show the world about the new Chilean animated movie.

49.145.243.89 (talk) 14:28, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
 * No sources? Victor Schmidt (talk) 18:09, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

15:57:21, 9 November 2020 review of submission by Lewis Walker00
External Sources like CampaignAsia, which is the media leader of the creative industry, are used to support points.

Lewis Walker00 (talk) 15:57, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

16:39:48, 9 November 2020 review of draft by Annabramboeck
Dear all,

I've submitted the following article for review: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Georg_Winterer - it's the english version of this german Wikipedia article: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Winterer

The review process already takes 2 months. I just see the message "Review waiting, please be patient."

Do you have any suggestions how it will approximately take or whether I could help the reviewers somehow to make their work easier?

Thank you for your help!! Anna

Annabramboeck (talk) 16:39, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
 * The review will take a while because AfC is perennially backlogged. That said, we are not interested in a rerun of the Seigenthaler incident; the draft contains unsourced claims in it, which will lead to it being declined. You need to either find sources for the claims that lack one, or remove those claims entirely. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Takes a strong man to deny... 19:34, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

17:50:40, 9 November 2020 review of submission by Sugarmonkey123
He was recently in the news and is the son of the Secretary of State. Does that not warrant a page? If not, ok - but I've seen Wiki pages on people with less...

Sugarmonkey123 (talk) 17:50, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Per our general notability guideline, a person is considered notable if they have received significant coverage (in depth content written about them) in multiple, mainstream, reliable sources, (i.e. ones with editorial oversight and fact-checking) that are independent of the subject (not press releases, not their blogs, not interviews they've done). If a business magazine, for example, has written in depth about the subject, where he attended school, what investments he's made, commented or critiqued his portfolio, blah blah, then you'd be a step closer. The sort of coverage found in Heavy might be along those lines, but the community doesn't consider it a very strong source. Given how quickly I've seen them dump these 5 Fast Facts pieces, they strike me more as a content-scraping site vs. a site that researches the subjects it writes about. And unfortunately, notability is not inherited, so being the son of a famous person doesn't make a person notable. Another example: A person could have founded a notable company, but if newspapers haven't written about the person who founded it, that person may not meet our notability criteria. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:29, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

19:33:02, 9 November 2020 review of submission by YacinePedia
Hello! Please let me have a page about Yacine: Summer Holiday's here in Wikipedia, I see nothing wrong with it. YacinePedia (talk) 19:33, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I do. Only cites are to the subject themselves, meaning no evidence of notability. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Takes a strong man to deny... 19:34, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , the channel has one subscriber, it would be unanimously deleted no matter what the contents of the page actually were. Wikipedia is not the place for personal vanity pages. Dylsss(talk &bull;&#32;contribs) 19:40, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Nothing to suggest that the topic is in any way, shape or form notable so it was correctly rejected. Theroadislong (talk) 19:43, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Request on 20:54:16, 9 November 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by T0afer
The reviewer comment mentions boardgame websites not being reliable but those are not the only sources being used. Several sources link to articles and comments written by notable game designers discussing the impact of the game on their own designs.

"Ayu was selected for the 2015 Codecup challenge. Contestants had to create a program that could play the game and then compete against each other. Sergey Povalikhin created the winning program.[14]"

This in particular links to the contest website in addition to several links to the abstract strategy game magazine "abstract games for the competitive thinker"

These are not just board game websites nor are they linked to the creator.

Christian Freeling's website also houses articles he write regarding various game he and others have invented.

T0afer (talk) 20:54, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

22:43:19, 9 November 2020 review of draft by Greenie2020
I want to understand why local government sources are not counted as official sources.

Greenie2020 (talk) 22:43, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

I am confused as to why climate emergency in Australia does not have enough "information" to be regarded as an important enough page almost 100 local government jurisdictions have declared a climate emergency in Australia and its useful to know which councils those are. This information is really useful to people in the climate movement and a page mapping when councils have declared a climate emergency is useful. I also want to know why some of the references were regarded as not reliable most were news or official Council pages. How do I find out exactly which references the editor had an issue with. How do I avoid the page being deleted as I improve on it. I put many hours into it.

Greenie2020 (talk) 22:47, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
 * The draft is not in danger of deletion as long as it is not inactive for 6 months. Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources state, not what primary sources state.  This means that any article like this should summarize the reporting of these declarations, not the declarations themselves. 331dot (talk) 09:46, 10 November 2020 (UTC)