Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2020 October 23

= October 23 =

09:40:12, 23 October 2020 review of draft by Collingwood Supporter3
I need help with my references and citations Can you help? I Collingwood Supporter3 (talk) 09:40, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I have attempted to fix them. The most part is done, though I have not suceeded in every case. You may want to look at my Changes before attempting to fix the rest. Victor Schmidt (talk) 11:48, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

14:17:16, 23 October 2020 review of submission by Sudhindra Athreya
I'm not able to upload the correct picture. The one uploaded is partially done and I would like to change it. Please suggest.

Sudhindra Athreya (talk) 14:17, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Please do not write an article about yourself. Its not forbidden, but the count of persons I have seen writing their autobiography sucessfully in a suitable way is zero. Next, if You are affilated with the person depicted in this image, I have another concern: Wikipedia is not a social Network like Facebook or Instagram.
 * I am not able to read deleted pages and therefore can't give you advice on Draft:Samarth_Athreya, but its extremely unlikely that this topic meets WP:BLP, let alone WP:NPERSON. The former is especially important when writing about minors. Victor Schmidt (talk) 15:34, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * It has beed rejected again, the topic is not notable. Theroadislong (talk) 14:57, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

16:47:22, 23 October 2020 review of submission by Blackbearpr
Hi guys im just wondering if you can help me and give me some advice on why my page i wrote about the professional boxer was not accepted? if anything im asking for some help and advice on what i need to add into it to make it acceptable for wikipedia

Blackbearpr (talk) 16:47, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The draft has been rejected and will not be considered further. We do not permit official or shared accounts, nor (as you have found out) do we tolerate mercenary editors who do not explain their circumstances. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Takes a strong man to deny... 22:34, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

17:34:18, 23 October 2020 review of submission by OWC12345
My page was declined because of the sources. I have gathered news articles from trade publications as well as local media publications so I am unsure why this information was declined. OWC12345 (talk) 17:34, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * It comes down to the sourcing. Company profiles (Bloomberg) are not reliable sources. Anything written by Forbes contributors is useless as a source. Press releases (nationalmortgageprofessional) are not reliable sources. Trivial mentions (Union Recorder) are not reliable sources. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Takes a strong man to deny... 22:30, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Request on 18:27:28, 23 October 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Jfritter
Hi there! I don't quite understand why my article for submission has been rejected twice now. It's about a film sound designer named Sean Garnhart, and the reason it was rejected was because it apparently doesn't show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article through published, reliable sources that are independent of the subject. I included sources from credible entities like the Emmys (which he has won one of), Motion Picture Editors Guild, and the British Film Institute. I have seen other pages that have been published using similar award entities as sources - Skip Lievsay and Ren Klyce can be used as examples. I do notice the main difference is that those pages have references to sources from the Oscars - but my question would be: does a sound designer really need to have been nominated for an Oscar to be qualified to have a Wikipedia page? In my opinion, that should not be the only metric that would make a sound designer credible/notable. The Emmys are a similarly large award, as are awards from the Motion Picture Editors Guild and BFI.

I would really appreciate any and all guidance here, and thank you in advance!Jfritter (talk) 18:27, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Jfritter (talk) 18:27, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Your draft has NOT been rejected twice, it has been declined, there is a subtle difference, being declined means there is hope that it can be accepted. you need to find some independent reliable sources, the two sources you have at the moment are not independent. Theroadislong (talk) 18:44, 23 October 2020 (UTC)


 * I appreciate the prompt reply and the clarification of terminology! I don't quite understand how the Emmys and BFI aren't independent resources, though, especially since the Oscars are considered independent. I would consider the Emmys and BFI to be "news media", which would qualify them as independent sources according to this page. Would it be possible for you to explain to me what prevents these sources from being considered independent?Jfritter (talk) 19:30, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

19:12:51, 23 October 2020 review of submission by Chukwu3buka01
Chukwu3buka01 (talk) 19:12, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Why is my article disallowed?

My references are legit. You can visit the pages to confirm the authenticity.
 * We are not interested in a rerun of the Seigenthaler incident. Inline citations are expected to be in the text proper, used to verify claims the article makes. Search results are not acceptable sources. Trivial mentions (name-drops and sound bites) are not acceptable sources. Two of your sources 404 out. Three of your sources (would be four if one of them weren't a 404) are the exact same article, which makes all but one of those useless and implies a press release. Your sources are, frankly, not up to par. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Takes a strong man to deny... 22:25, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Request on 20:53:50, 23 October 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Khadar shah
Khadar shah (talk) 20:53, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * You don't ask a question. 331dot (talk) 08:36, 24 October 2020 (UTC)