Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2020 September 12

= September 12 =

10:13:41, 12 September 2020 review of submission by Shreyansh Singh Rajput
Shreyansh Singh Rajput (talk) 10:13, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

RajibGhoshal I NEED ADVICE AS TO WHAT TO CHANGE TO GET THIS ARTICLE ACCEPTED.


 * As explained in greater detail on your talk page, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. Unlike Facebook, LinkedIn, or similar social networking sites, it is not a place to write about yourself, your family, or friends. No amount of editing will make the draft acceptable because the subject does not meet Wikipedia's inclusion criteria (is not notable). If you're interested in astronomy, consider joining WikiProject Astronomy and trying to improve existing articles in its scope, instead of pursing this draft. --Worldbruce (talk) 13:34, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Request on 11:27:09, 12 September 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Peter Parker1234567890
Peter Parker1234567890 (talk) 11:27, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * For a living person we have a high standard of referencing. Every substantive fact you assert, especially one that is susceptible to potential challenge, requires a citation with a reference that is about them, and is independent of them, and is in WP:RS, and is significant coverage. Please also see WP:PRIMARY which details the limited permitted usage of primary sources and WP:SELFPUB which has clear limitations on self published sources. Providing sufficient references, ideally one per fact cited, that meet these tough criteria is likely to make this draft a clear acceptance (0.9 probability). Lack of them or an inability to find them is likely to mean that the person is not suitable for inclusion, certainly today. Fiddle   Faddle  11:53, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

11:29:00, 12 September 2020 review of submission by Getlucky24
I have re-wrote the article. Please review again. Getlucky24 (talk) 11:29, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * The draft was rejected, meaning it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 12:22, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

12:15:12, 12 September 2020 review of submission by Sandromaquine
Hi. The article Bilal U. Haq shows a maintenance box that says:

"This article may require cleanup to meet Wikipedia's quality standards. The specific problem is: The huge set of references authored by him are inappropriate and need to be trimmed, or the text trimmed. The are a bibliography though peer reviewed papers can be references used sparingly"

I find it difficult to know the best number of references to use. Before the article was approved, a reviewer said there were not enough references.

If I remove references 1 through 12, 16 and 25, will it be good enough?

Sincerely yours. Sandromaquine (talk) 12:15, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Request on 14:08:42, 12 September 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Kishor D Kumar
Kishor D Kumar (talk) 14:08, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell the world about themselves; see WP:AUTO. 331dot (talk) 14:36, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

14:14:41, 12 September 2020 review of draft by Edward Myer
Hello, and thank you for your time. I need help understanding why the article I submitted was declined for inclusion in wikipedia. I included multiple reliable source references( Independent of the subject) to validate the subjects notablity. Those references included references to the subjects notable achievements and affiliation with other notable artist in Hip Hop music already include in Wikipedia. Was this article fairy reviewed or was it treated with malice because the subject is a Hip Hop artist. I know each article is subject to each reviewers subjective view, but hopefully not to their prejudice. Please indicate to me how I can fix this article so it can become included. I'm confused, according to wikipedia notability guidelines I did everything correctly, and the subject is notable.

Thank you for your time and diligence.

Edward Myer (talk) 14:14, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * As the reviewer noted, it seems that this musician does not meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable musician. If he does, you need to show that with significant coverage in independent reliable sources; the sources you offered seem to be routine announcements or simply citing that something occurred. He's not notable for collaborating with other musicians, as notability is not inherited by association.
 * Please also assume good faith instead of presuming malice. 331dot (talk) 14:34, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Hello I believe this subject should have not been declined as the musician meets as least one of the 12 "Criteria for musicians and ensembles"

Line 10. Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g., a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album, etc. The subject had two songs featured on the 2017 release of the "Universal Hip Hop's Museum Compilation Album" entitled "16 Bars 4 Hip Hop" Which featured other notable artist as well. The Universal Hip Hop Museum is international recognized as the curators of Hip Hop Music garnering worldwide press and praise. Redirects and independent references were provided in the article to substantiate the subjects inclusion on the organizations 2017 compilation album release.

line 12. Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or television network. The musician was the featured subject and guest on SiriusXM Satellite Radio ,which broadcast thourghout the entire United States and international. He appeared on Sirius XM's premiere Hip Hop/Urban Platform show Eminem's shade45. The show only caters to established and notable artist in the filed of Hip Hop music. He was interviewed by the national and internationally wikiepedia noted Disc jockey DJ KaySlay. Independent redirects and references to this was also provided in the article.

4. Has received non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country. The musician has also done numerous tours within the United States and The UK. We provided links/footage and independent references to him performing in London during his 2019 international tour.

I do believe this subject has met at least one criteria in the stated and clearly outlined criteria that is publicly posted and visible in the wikipedia guidelines.

Thank you, and I hope the decision of non inclusion can be reversed.

Criteria for musicians and ensembles

Musicians or ensembles (this category includes bands, singers, rappers, orchestras, DJs, musical theatre groups, instrumentalists, etc.) may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria.

Edward Myer (talk) 15:40, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Who is "we"? If you are employed by or represent this musician, you must review and comply with WP:COI and WP:PAID. If he meets the criteria you have laid out, then you have not shown it with significant coverage in independent reliable sources. If you have such sources, you will then need to appeal to the reviewer directly.  If you have additional comment, please edit this existing section, instead of creating new sections. 331dot (talk) 06:54, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

331dot (talk) 06:54, 13 September 2020 (UTC) Good evening, no I'm not employed by nor do I represent the musician in any capacity. I'm merely a fan. My fiancee helped me gather information on the subject, thus the term we. She also is not employed by nor does she represents the musician in any capacity. I have updated the independent and reliable sources pertaining to the musician and have resubmitted article for review and inclusion. I also came to realize alot of the links to the independent sources were not inputted properly, and did not work. Thank you for you time. Edward Myer (talk) 17:53, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

15:31:50, 12 September 2020 review of submission by Nestle nestle
Nestle nestle (talk) 15:31, 12 September 2020 (UTC){{SAFESUBST:Void|
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Request on 20:43:30, 12 September 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Hickeygamez
I am wanting some practical tips to help with article get published!

Hickeygamez (talk) 20:43, 12 September 2020 (UTC)