Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2021 April 10

= April 10 =

00:09:13, 10 April 2021 review of submission by RecessionAgitation
Lupienism is definitely real and these claims are accurate. To quote Andy Lupien himself, "Friends are hard… sometimes they're so annoying. I talk to myself sometimes. I like to talk to myself and maybe someone chimes in once in a while." (2021)

RecessionAgitation (talk) 00:09, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Please stop wasting our time. Blocked per WP:NOTHERE. -- Kinu t/c 06:11, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

06:06:36, 10 April 2021 review of submission by 2600:8803:7D00:17D0:3C59:62F3:2A24:749C
2600:8803:7D00:17D0:3C59:62F3:2A24:749C (talk) 06:06, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
 * You have not asked a question, but as indicated, the submission has been rejected because the subject is non-notable. -- Kinu t/c 06:13, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

My article Draft:Pewdiecake2music keeps getting rejected i have reliable sources
 * As noted by reviewers, the person does not appear to meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable musician. 331dot (talk) 07:48, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

08:10:32, 10 April 2021 review of submission by Rustycandle
Hi, the feedback on the rejection mentions lack of show significant coverage. I added references to relevant tech blogs, together with a list of mainstream musicians using the instrument to compose music, and the independent paper on ArXiv. I've seen pages of instruments with way less coverage posted on Wikipedia. Should I add more coverage from blogs or amend the existing ones? I'm not sure I understand what is missing. Thanks.

Rustycandle (talk) 08:10, 10 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Please see other stuff exists. As this is a volunteer project where people do what they can when they can, it is possible for inappropriate articles or content to go undetected and unaddressed, even for years.  We can only address what we know about. This possible existence of inappropriate content does not mean your inappropriate content can exist too; otherwise, nothing could ever be removed from Wikipedia. If you would like to pitch in and help, you can identify articles that do not meet the appropriate guidelines so they can be addressed, we can use the help.
 * You have one source from the company itself, which is not independent; another that merely shows where the source code is; another that is just a discussion thread, which is not a reliable source; another that is just instructions for building one of these, just among the ones I looked at. These do not establish notability. Wikipedia articles must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the topic, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of notability. "Significant coverage" goes beyond just confirming the existence of the topic or telling us what it is, but in depth analysis and writing about the subject with a broader overview. Please see Your First Article for more information. 331dot (talk) 08:50, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback, I'll add more "Significant overage". About your comment on the place where the source code is - I used it as a reference to support the statement about the project being released under an open source license. Does that not count as a reference? Thanks.
 * (service) editor forgot to sign. Victor Schmidt (talk) 11:30, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Request on 11:27:09, 10 April 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Akki97
Akki97 (talk) 11:27, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

12:35:19, 10 April 2021 review of submission by Frank Dawkins
Frank Dawkins (talk) 12:35, 10 April 2021 (UTC) OK, no worries, if you won't accept my article. Stewart Bint is often asked why he doesn't have a short Wikipedia page about him, as he's a popular English author. But obviously not popular enough to feature on Wikipedia, lol, despite being a verified Twitter account.
 * Having a "verified Twitter account" confers zero notability I'm afraid. Theroadislong (talk) 12:44, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

13:25:25, 10 April 2021 review of submission by Ulysse Verjus-Tonnelé
Hello, I was told my draft was not accepted for two reasons: it isn't written in an encyclopedic tone, and the subject isn't significant enough. I don't really see what parts sound informal or promotional in my draft, if you agree with the reviewer that the tone isn't encyclopedic would you mind telling me what part you're referring to? As for significance, I beg to differ: Do-Hyun Kim won the prize for best performance in the Semi Final round of arguably the most prestigious piano competition in the world, the International Tchaikovsky Piano Competition, his biography is present on the website of many prestigious institutions and organizations, such as the Mariinsky Theatre's website, Young Concert Artists's website and Medici.tv's website, one of the largest platforms for classical music in the world, to cite only a few. On top of this, his videos have accumulated tens of thousands of views on Youtube, and he already has his Wikipedia article in French. Best. Ulysse Verjus-Tonnelé (talk) 13:25, 10 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi . Thank you for your contributions. I agree that the International Tchaikovsky Competition is a major music competition. Wikipedia includes a biography of every pianist who has won first prize there, and most who have won second prize, third prize, or fourth prize. That is consistent with Wikipedia's notability criteria for musicians criterion #9. Do-Hyun Kim did not win first prize, either of the second prizes, any of the three third prizes, or fourth prize. A prize for best performance in the Semi Final round is not enough to prove he is notable.


 * Musicians often have capsule biographies on multiple websites, but they all may be authored by the musician or their agents. The similarity of the bios on the Mariinsky and medici.tv pages, for example, shows that they come from a common source, rather than being written independently. Young Concert Artists represents Do-Hyun Kim, so is not an independent source. YouTube views is not a measure that demonstrates notability. Each language version of Wikipedia operates according to its own policies and guidelines, set by the community of editors who contribute there. So a topic may be suitable for the French Wikipedia but not the English one, or vice-versa. Also, the existence of an article does not mean it should exist. It may mean only that no one has gotten around to deleting it yet.


 * The arguments you make above will not convince reviewers that Do-Hyun Kim qualifies for inclusion in the English Wikipedia. If you cannot find independent, reliable, secondary sources containing significant coverage of him, and showing that he meets one or more of the notability criteria for musicians, it may be too soon for an article about him. --Worldbruce (talk) 15:58, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay then. Thank you for your time :) Ulysse Verjus-Tonnelé (talk) 11:54, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

14:06:51, 10 April 2021 review of submission by Smol23456
Smol23456 (talk) 14:06, 10 April 2021 (UTC) Q: My article got declined. why? A: Because it was a test edit.
 * Hello and Welcome to Wikipedia. While it may seem tempting to submit editing tests for review, the submit for review option is only for actual drafts for encyclopedic articles. Try reading WP:YFA when you want to know what we expect from a new article/draft submission. Victor Schmidt (talk) 15:26, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

16:17:20, 10 April 2021 review of submission by Kitcat12dude3D
Hello, im a 11 year old child i have a group of freinds that has been working on this for a long time and i wanted to help them get recognition for there work and they were fine with this but i would like to ask why i got declined and what i can do to improve the page and therefore benefits my friends. Kitcat12dude3D (talk) 16:17, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
 * A Wikipedia article should summarize only what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a subject, it doesn't look like your topic is notable yet. Theroadislong (talk) 16:45, 10 April 2021 (UTC)