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= April 9 =

06:16:47, 9 April 2021 review of submission by AmirThunder
he is a well known basketball player and one of the best slam dunker in my country (iran) ,some of his career is not in the internet i thought his FIBA3X3.com confirmed profile would be enough reference and still declined i don't know why !please review this carefully and tell me what should i do. thank you for helping me. AmirThunder (talk) 06:16, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * He does not seem to meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable basketball player. He would need to have played in one of the leagues named in that definition. 331dot (talk) 07:47, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Request on 07:10:33, 9 April 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Alienethar
Alienethar (talk) 07:10, 9 April 2021 (UTC)


 * @Alienethar it has been both rejected and deleted. For your next attempt please read Help:Your first article before starting Fiddle   Faddle  07:56, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

08:09:48, 9 April 2021 review of submission by Axomiya Elon
The said politician is the Chief Executive Member of the North Cachar Hills Autonomous Council of Assam. A politician should have a Wikipedia page I guess. I've given the proper references. Autonomous Councils are administrative region within Assam. U can check more on the Internet and Wikipedia itself. Before deleting again, please read some articles on the Internet.

Axomiya Elon (talk) 08:09, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Many politicians merit articles, if they meet the Wikipedia definition of a notable politician, but they must also receive significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources to merit an article. You only offered two sources, one merely stating his position on the Council and another describing the existence of the Council. 331dot (talk) 08:14, 9 April 2021 (UTC)


 * 331dot

Then how Bhabesh Kalita article is surviving on Wikipedia? With only 3 references? Isn't that some kind of discrimination? I guess Wikipedia charges fee on publishing articles. A cabinet minister has got his article on Wikipedia with 3 references which are perhaps outdated, but the CEM of an Autonomous Council doesn't qualify for wiki article as notable person? Axomiya Elon (talk) 12:20, 9 April 2021 (UTC)


 * @Axomiya Elon Your allegation is one that you need to withdraw. Wikipedia charges no fees, neither overt nor covert.
 * There are many poor articles on Wikipedia that do not deserve to be here. They will go eventually if that is what is required Fiddle   Faddle  12:25, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia does not charge fees to have an article. Third parties offer Wikipedia editing services, but these are not endorsed by Wikipedia and paid editors must comply with the paid editing policy.
 * Please see other stuff exists. That other similar articles exist does not automatically mean yours can too. Each article or draft is considered on their own merits. I've explained why the sources for your draft are inappropriate. If you have others, please offer them and discuss the issue with the reviewer that rejected your draft. 331dot (talk) 12:29, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

10:08:24, 9 April 2021 review of draft by Norah Abdulrahman
Given that the article discusses an Arab person who's mostly known in the Arab world, most of the resources are in Arabic. This is perhaps why the reviewer hasn't published the article yet. I am not sure how to support my claims and I don't wish for the article to be deleted, so, would adding the writer's twitter page as well as his website, which contains information on him, his works and achievements be enough? Perhaps an Arabic speaking reviewer/editor could verify the resources? Thank you. Norah Abdulrahman (talk) 10:16, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Request on 10:11:34, 9 April 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Pro95mustafa
Hi there, I am confident that he's well known and noticed in the Iraqi society, but as you may or may not know, Iraqi media in recent years was depending mostly on social media platforms even the official outlets, such as the syndicate of dentists which is an official governmental entity posted on him more than once on social media (here). Their official website is not frequently updated and more than 100 doctors posted about him on social media platforms, of these doctors some are very well known, who are sad to lose him and his professional and scientific input. As for rewards he got awarded with more than 20 awards you can find the source here. I haven't added this yet because I'm trying to collect more than one source and if I can get certificate images but sadly the Iraqi media websites have issues because Iraqis don't browse websites all that much, instead they use social media platforms. If there is anything I can provide you with, please tell me, but I'm pretty sure that this doctor is well known in Iraq and I can provide his social media accounts links. the problem with Iraqi sources is that they do not use websites all that much, even for official governmental sources (such as the Syndicate of Dentists or the Ministry of Health) are more active and write official releases on their social media accounts more often than they do on their websites if they even updated them. This doctor has been awarded on their website, he even has certificates from the Minister of Health himself, this is mentioned in the official university of Kufa website as you can find here The other problem is that half of the official accounts in Iraq don't go through the verification process so even though they are reliable sources, they don't have the verification badge. I hope that you understand how the situation is in Iraq, and can you please check this link here it's Urubah Foundation for Human Rights official NGO, Which is verified by the Organizations Registration Department of the Iraqi government, It has published about the death of the doctor and helped orphans in their grief over the loss of the doctor, as mentioned in the description of the post, but every one publishes in the social media and they don't have a website As well as many official parties which they do not own websites, thank you in advance.

Pro95mustafa (talk) 10:11, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Aside from the issues with sourcing (which I'm not yet awake enough to get into the weeds on) this reads like a curriculum vitae. We don't accept CVs. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 20:10, 9 April 2021 (UTC)


 * It's not CVs!, who writes CVs for a dead person? I write it like a lot of articles on Wikipedia --Pro95mustafa (talk) 09:45, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

10:21:47, 9 April 2021 review of draft by Suryaprakashpatil
Suryaprakashpatil (talk) 10:21, 9 April 2021 (UTC)


 * @Suryaprakashpatil No record of any contributions by you Fiddle   Faddle  12:17, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

10:23:29, 9 April 2021 review of submission by Artstr
Hello,

How can I improve the article? The photographer has appeared in several famous magazines

Artstr (talk) 10:23, 9 April 2021 (UTC)


 * @Artstr The draft has been rejected, and will not proceed further. For future drafts please read Help:Your first article and concentrated on correct referencing  Fiddle   Faddle  12:19, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

12:30:05, 9 April 2021 review of submission by LakersLad887
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Asim Riaz is a reputed and international star with fan following all over the world. He also worked with famous music labals like T-Series, Sony etc. He has also won many individual awards for his stint in Bigg Boss 13 and he is currently one of the most popular actors and models in the country and widely recognized face across the country. He was also nominated television personality of the year award and ranked 17 in Times 50 Most Desirable Men 2019 list. Hence requesting you to accept and post this article in wikipedia as he is a very reputed and popular star in the music and television industry. LakersLad887 (talk) 12:30, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Your sources are almost all too light on any usable details to be usable. There's virtually no in-depth discussion of him specifically that isn't scandal-rag gossipy material. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 20:15, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

13:51:10, 9 April 2021 review of submission by 2600:8803:7D00:17D0:3C59:62F3:2A24:749C
2600:8803:7D00:17D0:3C59:62F3:2A24:749C (talk) 13:51, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

13:53:30, 9 April 2021 review of submission by Naixa
I'm a little confused about the reasoning for saying this draft doesn't meet the sourcing requirements. It has 27 citations including from major blogs, websites, and even newspapers. That seems to be fair more than what I find in a typical entry this size. Am I missing something?

My other question is:

Looking at other places that detail national awards, the winners are listed, so I'm not clear why they wouldn't be in this post.

The rest I'm going to work on to address, but I'd like to figure out the two above points so I can figure out how to tackle them. The source this is the really weird one, in my mind.

Here is the note left by the reviewer:

"Large parts of the draft are presented without a source, others should be removed. The 'Clients' section is something that is generally not considered encyclopedic. Those that are notable (i.e. document in secondary sources) should be worked into the 'History' section instead. The various lists of people (for both The Bit Awards and Graffiti Games) should be removed. The sections for the Bit Awards, the Global Game Jam, Play NYC, and 'Education' could be condensed into a 'Activities' section that documents each in as much detail as is required, rather than having four sections with one sentence each."

Naixa (talk) 13:53, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Your sources:
 * https://www.meetup.com/nl-NL/gaming/messages/25359502/ is an utter non-sequitur, and even if it did mention Playcrafting in any form we don't accept emails/texts that haven't formally been published as sources.
 * https://kotaku.com/one-mans-attempt-to-make-it-easier-to-learn-how-to-make-1820344231 is an interview. We don't accept any source the subject or its surrogates directly contributed to or controls. Just because an outlet is accepted as generally reliable does not automatically mean all its articles are; context and content are vitally important.
 * https://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/RachelPresser/20180212/314540/What_Indie_Devs_Get_Wrong_About_Professional_Networking.php is an op-ed and not vetted by Gamasutra: The following blog post, unless otherwise noted, was written by a member of Gamasutra’s community. The thoughts and opinions expressed are those of the writer and not Gamasutra or its parent company.
 * https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/02/nyregion/programming-new-york-for-video-game-development.html is too sparse on details to be usable as a source here.
 * https://rog.asus.com/articles/gaming/the-rog-zephyrus-duo-15s-innovative-second-screen-inspired-a-stunning-sci-fi-adventure-in-the-rog-game-jam/ is both too sparse and connected to the subject (We partnered with Playcrafting to host this challenging event.)
 * https://rog.asus.com/us is a website homepage and thus useless as a source in literally every context.
 * https://venturebeat.com/2019/09/15/boses-ar-frames-get-a-narrative-gaming-boost-from-the-team-behind-that-dragon-cancer/ is too sparse on details to be usable as a source here.
 * https://www.tribecafilm.com/press-center/press-releases/tribeca-games-presents-three-marquee-programs-at-17th-annual-tribeca-film-festival-festival-on-april-27-28 is a non-sequitur.
 * https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/schick-hydro-champions-the-independent-gaming-community-and-its-commitment-to-fostering-innovation-300565245.html is a press release put out by a company they've partnered with, and thus is connected to them. PR Newswire is, as a general rule, one of the worst sources for notability.
 * https://www.pocketgamer.biz/news/73420/playcrafting-schick-xtreme-charity-mobile-game/ is too sparse on details to be usable as a source here.
 * https://verizon5glabs.com/NFL-challenge/ is a non-sequitur and even if it weren't the (usable) explorebit.io source is much better for this.
 * https://www.post-gazette.com/ae/gaming-plus/2017/11/16/Card-game-created-by-Pittsburgh-native-is-nominated-for-developer-s-award/stories/201711160198 is too sparse on details to be usable as a source here.
 * https://www.thebitawards.com/past-winners/ba-2016 is connected to the subject and thus useless as a notability cite.
 * https://globalgamejam.org/2020/jam-sites/playcrafting-microsoft-nyc is connected to the subject and thus useless as a notability cite.
 * https://www.c-mw.net/revving-new-multi-year-sales-sponsorship-link-manhattan-center-conference/ is too sparse on details to be usable as a source here.
 * https://bleedingcool.com/games/nyc-play-reveals-the-2020-event-will-be-held-online/ is too sparse on details to be usable as a source here.
 * https://www.metro.us/inside-play-nyc-new-yorks-largest-video-game-convention/ is an interview with the company's CEO and thus connected.
 * https://www.polygon.com/2017/4/28/15476086/play-nyc-joins-tribeca-games-and-nycc-as-nycs-game-expos-expand is borderline-usable.
 * https://mc34.com/play-nyc-exclusive-deal/ is a non-sequitur.
 * https://variety.com/2018/gaming/news/play-nyc-graffiti-game-1202883871/ is too sparse on details to be usable as a source here.
 * https://gaminglyfe.com/play-nycs-graffiti-games-2020-will-spotlight-black-game-developers/ is too sparse on details to be usable as a source here.
 * https://www.gamesforchange.org/blog/2017/03/23/announcing-5000-in-scholarships-to-playcraftings-game-design-courses-in-nyc/ is helping fund them and are thus connected to them.
 * I will make a blanket statement: A lot of the sources above are more about Play NYC than Playcrafting. Coverage on Play NYC does not equate to coverage on Playcrafting; if anything you're proving Play NYC as a convention is notable, not Playcrafting. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 20:45, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

15:36:47, 9 April 2021 review of submission by 64.121.103.144
Help! My draft was rejected! Link: Draft:Starship SN15 64.121.103.144 (talk) 15:36, 9 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Imho the rejection is correct. There are no articles about any of the other individual "Starship SN series" rockets. The series as a whole is probably notable, but each of the routine test vehicles/launches are not seperately notable. Another problem is the overall advertorial tone of the draft. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:39, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

16:06:29, 9 April 2021 review of submission by Ruedi33a
Hi, I created a lot of mentioned but not yet documented battles of the Campaignbox Napoleon's invasion of Russia. Template:Campaignbox Napoleon's invasion of Russia Now I would have to create the "Battle of Zvenigorod". But this battle does not exist in Google, not in the books I know, not in the corresponding boxes of the German and French wikipedia. Can you please delete the "Battle of Zvenigorod" in the Campaignbox Napoleon's invasion of Russia...

Ruedi33a (talk) 16:06, 9 April 2021 (UTC)


 * @Ruedi33a that something is not in Google or other Wikipedia languages does not mean it does not exist, nor that it is not notable. This just means that you have not yet found references, online or print media, that verify it. It can stay as a redlink.
 * I am about to remove that template from this page. if you wnat to link to a template please use Template:Example, which will link to it without including it Fiddle   Faddle  17:03, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I am about to remove that template from this page. if you wnat to link to a template please use Template:Example, which will link to it without including it Fiddle   Faddle  17:03, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

18:21:10, 9 April 2021 review of submission by Bendavidroi
I want to know why it was rejected


 * Hi . The reason the draft was declined is given in the large pink box at the top of the draft and in the yellowish box on your talk page. More specifically, none of the references (wikidata, menafn, talkofnews, and techkrest) have the characteristics of reliable sources. Furthermore, nothing in the draft suggests the subject meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines (inclusion criteria). The draft is not an encyclopedia article, but more of an advertisement, which is something not allowed on Wikipedia. --Worldbruce (talk) 19:11, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

19:32:24, 9 April 2021 review of submission by Neypar9
Hello, This is A.s.o.g. I am a colleague of Neypar9 and I am assisting in gathering additional source information on this artist. Once that is posted, is there any other issues that you see with the page? Neypar9 (talk) 19:32, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * The draft was rejected, meaning it will not be considered further. Only Neypar9 should be operating the Neypar9 account; sharing accounts is not permitted. 331dot (talk) 19:36, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

19:52:25, 9 April 2021 review of submission by Bendavidroi
how can I post this article? what's need to be changed/add?

Bendavidroi (talk) 19:52, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. Please read the autobiography policy. Wikipedia is not social media for people to tell the world about themselves or advertise their expertise. 331dot (talk) 19:58, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

20:02:02, 9 April 2021 review of submission by 70.179.216.206
70.179.216.206 (talk) 20:02, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Now That The 2020-21 College Basketball season is over is time that the 2021-22 NCAA Basketball Division I Men's Basketball season now becomes an article. 70.179.216.206 (talk) 20:02, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

21:05:17, 9 April 2021 review of submission by Bendavidroi
how I can to delete this?

Bendavidroi (talk) 21:05, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I have marked the page for deletion per your request here. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 21:08, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

23:27:32, 9 April 2021 review of submission by Nizevibes
Nizevibes (talk) 23:27, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * See below. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:25, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

23:29:08, 9 April 2021 review of submission by Nizevibes
Nizevibes (talk) 23:29, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Your submission was rejected, which means it will not be considered further. If you want to tell the world about yourself, use social media. See also our policies on autobiographies and notability. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:24, 10 April 2021 (UTC)