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= August 10 =

05:59:59, 10 August 2021 review of draft by Sujinupasana
Please let me know which link in my draft article have issue with "wiki copy right" Sujinupasana (talk) 05:59, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
 * AS previously explained Draft:Debashis Chatterjee is mostly copied and pasted from https://www.indiaeducationforum.org/debashis-chatterjee.html Theroadislong (talk) 06:48, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

06:49:49, 10 August 2021 review of draft by Star Max Red
HI, please explain me the problem about the picture that has been deleted. I'm the author of the picture and the owner of the copyright. Why can't I use it? I think that you should delete an image if you know that it violates copyright, not if you suppose it. Thank you Star Max Red (talk) 06:49, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I assume you talk about File:Giantthevine 15042019bw 1600.jpg. If so, our policies require evidence of the free license when it has appeared elsewhere before, via support. Merely stating that you are the copyright holder is insufficient, because it is not possible for us to see who is on the other end of the network cable. Victor Schmidt (talk) 07:29, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

07:16:40, 10 August 2021 review of draft by Polyarch
Roughly how many reliable sources are required for an article?

Thanks, Poly arch (talk ) 07:16, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Poly arch (talk ) 07:16, 10 August 2021 (UTC)


 * The quick answer is "multiple" and that's deliberately vague. Because it's not just having sources, it's having reliable independent in-depth sources, sufficient to write an article. 3 lengthy sources could be enough while 30 sources with passing mentions could be insufficient. In addition, primary sources (official website and such) should be used very sparingly. Store pages should be very rarely cited. What we want is multiple sources like WP:VG/RS, preferably at least full reviews. — HELL KNOWZ   ▎TALK 11:51, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you. This cleared up a lot. Poly arch (talk)  19:55, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

07:23:23, 10 August 2021 review of draft by Hotshot bro
I will try my best to find more sources about the article, so the sources can be constructed more independently.

Hotshot bro (talk) 07:23, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

07:29:55, 10 August 2021 review of draft by Hotshot bro
The two sources that are included in the article are the only reliable sources, I have already removed two sources from a living person and 1 picture with a link of another living person. Please let me know if there's any correction for any benefit that the article needs to be and some help for being neutral and less promotional, I will try to read the rule regulations and guidelines carefully. Thank you.
 * If that's all the sources, the school would not merit an article at this time. 331dot (talk) 07:43, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

09:13:30, 10 August 2021 review of submission by Fastwaq
Fastwaq (talk) 09:13, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

i have written about my first article about a indian poltican .and it is decalin i dont now why it is declained. i have attached the referance link.sir i have editted it and re published. sir please aproove the artice .he is a indian famous poltican. he is also a writter also a founder. sir please aproove my article fast as possible. please make it fast.

I HAVE CREATED A ARTICLE ABOUT A INDIAN POLTICAN CAN YOU PLEASE ACEEPT IT. HE IS A PART OF HISTORY Fastwaq (talk) 09:46, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia has no deadlines, so what is your need for speedy approval? The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. It appears that this man does not meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable politician. 331dot (talk) 10:03, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

10:38:59, 10 August 2021 review of submission by Riotix
I would like this page to be undoubtedly re-reviewed, as the standards of this page are very high. This page includes all elements required, and are extremely fulfilled with validity via the sources. Riotix (talk) 10:38, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
 * The page has been re-reviewed enough times and won't be considered further. Your assessment of its sourcing quality is simply wrong if you took the time to read the policies and guidelines linked. — HELL KNOWZ   ▎TALK 11:46, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

12:23:50, 10 August 2021 review of submission by Vatsalsri
Despite being neutral in tone, the page's content has been marked as advertisement in the review. The requisite media reports have also been linked in references. Please help to get published.

Vatsalsri (talk) 12:23, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

12:30:34, 10 August 2021 review of submission by Subhra bagchi
We have been trying to create an article for Anudip foundation(NGO), which is a non profit company with operations in India and USA, started in 2007 but failed to do so even after giving several references. Anudip foundation for social welfare has been empowering motivated young job aspirants from difficult backgrounds since 2007.An assistance from you would help the organisation serve better.And also for worldwide exposure of Anudip we are looking for creation of the wiki article so that we can cater to a large number of people. Subhra bagchi (talk) 12:30, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
 * The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. I'm glad that your organization does good work, but Wikipedia is not for telling the world about organizations that do good work, and has no interest in helping you promote your organization. A Wikipedia article must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about an organization, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable organization. Wikipedia has no interest in what an organization wants to say about itself. I would suggest using social media.
 * Also, if you work for the organization, you are required by the Terms of Use to make a formal declaration, see WP:PAID. You should also review conflict of interest. 331dot (talk) 13:41, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

16:01:44, 10 August 2021 review of draft by Factelf4
I'd like to understand more about notability. Having read the guidelines, I submitted a page which was reviewed by a few other editors and rejected on tone and style grounds which I then corrected. None of them raised the question of notability. However, it has now been rejected on notability.

The page meets the following criteria: "If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability" and "The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times. The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in a specific field".

Mariani meets all of these criteria as I have included plenty of references. He has written books and received awards. He is also used as a reference for other multiple other Wiki pages such as definitions of food types (eg the sub sandwich, Bloody Mary cocktail) which demonstrates that he has made a "recognized contribution...in a specific field". I have asked the editor who rejected it what else is required but no response, so hoping to understand more here. Many thanks for your help.--Factelf4 (talk) 16:01, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Factelf4 (talk) 16:01, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
 * None of the awards are notable, ie. they have no Wikipedia articles. Writing books confers zero notability unless they have been reported on with significant coverage in independent reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 16:21, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Theroadislong Below are some examples of where Wiki recognises the awards. Wiki itself reports on the books as they are quoted as reference for many other pages. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Beard_Foundation_Award https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Society_of_Magazine_Editors#ASME_programs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Wine_%26_Food_Institute https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Association_of_Culinary_Professionals#IACP_Awards Factelf4 (talk) 14:16, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * . Theroadislong (talk) 14:25, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Request on 19:26:15, 10 August 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Monkeycounter
Doublegrazing says of my draft

3) Given how individually supported points appear to have been bound together into a narrative, it is difficult to see how this could not contain synthesis/OR.

Can anyone explain what this means? I'm baffled.

Monkeycounter (talk) 19:26, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
 * In other words, you're writing a story, not an encyclopaedia article. Limit yourself to whatever information the sources explicitly provide and do not extrapolate or editorialise. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 22:33, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

19:49:08, 10 August 2021 review of submission by WiedenKunst
Philipp Straub is an internationally active and highly skilled DJ and producer, friend and co-performer of Carl Cox, I just don´t know that is missing in whis english wikipedia article.

Maybe if you can request this specific information from him personally and directly by getting in contact with him.

There is also already an german wikipedia article:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philipp_Straub

WiedenKunst (talk) 19:49, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
 * That an article exists on another language version of Wikipedia is not relevant, as each language version is its own project, with their own editors and policies. What is acceptable on one version isn't necessarily acceptable on another.  Here on the English version, you will need to establish that this person meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable musician, as shown with significant coverage in independent reliable sources that have chosen on their own to write about him. It isn't up to anyone other than yourself to provide sources- preferably those should be independent sources, not from the musician themselves.  If you communicate with the musician about this draft, that would be a conflict of interest. 331dot (talk) 20:17, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

22:15:48, 10 August 2021 review of draft by Wikiya007
Would like to get help from an experienced editor to check this draft is ok to submit since I added a few references after the draft decline.

Wikiya007 (talk) 22:15, 10 August 2021 (UTC)