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= August 12 =

04:13:37, 12 August 2021 review of draft by Brentxphillips
Hi, I'd like help to make my article acceptable for approval and publishing. Can someone point me to a template or something? I'm just trying to publish a very basic article on something that I'm an expert on.

Brentxphillips (talk) 04:13, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * , the best advice I can give is to read the advice for expert editors. We value subject experts particularly for their ability to distinguish between good and less good sources. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:24, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

05:49:05, 12 August 2021 review of draft by Tiltal
Hello,

We would like to understand what changes need to be made so as to comply with WIKI requirements. We established this page similarly to other company's pages. Please advise.

Best Regards,

Yair Maryanka - CEO

Tiltal (talk) 05:49, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note that only a single person should be operating your account. You will need to review the paid editing policy and make a formal declaration. Please see other stuff exists.  Other similar articles existing does not automatically mean that yours can too.  Not every company merits a Wikipedia article, even within the same field.  A company merits an article if it receives significant coverage in independent reliable sources that have chosen on their own to write about it(and not prompted by the company or based on materials put out by the company), showing how the company meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable company. Please see Your First Article for more information.
 * It could be that the other articles you've seen are also inappropriate. It is possible to get inappropriate content by us; we can only address what we know about. 331dot (talk) 10:20, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

10:15:23, 12 August 2021 review of submission by Phoebeowston
I would like to publish this article, what impartial language should I use?
 * There is nothing that you can do- as the draft was rejected, it will not be considered further, as no amount of editing can confer notability on a topic. 331dot (talk) 10:16, 12 August 2021 (UTC)


 * However,, egregious promotion can be fixed by ruthless removal of promotional language. You've started this removal and I now see some hope for the article, so I have changed (my own) "reject" to "decline". However, before you concern yourself with the language, better look for reliable sources that are independent of the gallery. If no such sources can be found, even a seemingly neutral description won't be acceptable. -- Hoary (talk) 01:38, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Request on 11:36:30, 12 August 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Blmalone
This is my first effort and I am having trouble reading and understanding the status of my submission. These pages are cryptic and I don't see a clear indication of the status of my page, since I made multiple several edits, or the dates of my edit submissions, or a verification that the submission actually uploaded, and confirmation that it is awaiting approval. I am just looking for acknowledgement that the last edit submitted is actually in the que. Blmalone (talk) 11:36, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Blmalone (talk) 11:36, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * As indicated by the yellow box at the bottom of the draft, you have resubmitted it and it is pending. 331dot (talk) 11:48, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

13:46:30, 12 August 2021 review of draft by Giocardillo
I tried publishing a page about a Emilia Fazzalari. It got denied due to references not being sufficient enough. With looking at other biography pages, the references I have provided look like to me they would qualify. Was curious if I could get more specifics on why it was denied and how to make it better

Giocardillo (talk) 13:46, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Please see other stuff exists. Other similar articles existing does not automatically mean that yours can too.  It could be that those other articles are also inappropriate.  As this is a volunteer project where people do what they can when they can, and with over 6 million articles to look at, it is possible for inappropriate articles to get by us. We can only address what we know about. If you want to use other articles as a guide, make sure that they are classified as at least "good" articles(see the talk page for that information) which are the best examples to follow. If you want to help us out, you can identify these other articles you have seen for possible action.
 * Regarding your question, some sections of your draft are completely unsourced, such as the Personal Life section. (related to that,we don't typically mention the names of children, especially minors, unless they too merit articles) The rest of your sources do not seem appropriate for establishing notability. A Wikipedia article must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a person, showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person. The article should not just tell what the person has done in their life.  Please see Your First Article for more information.
 * If you have an association with this person, please review conflict of interest and paid editing for information on required formal disclosures, as well as other advice. 331dot (talk) 13:56, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * 8 of your draft's paragraphs have no sources whatsoever, each and every substantive fact requires proper citing to independent reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 14:03, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

16:33:09, 12 August 2021 review of submission by Walking Weird Studios
The page I've been trying to make is a page for a youtube channel called ShnobbsStudios. The name of the owner of this channel is Gabriel Garcia. I need good ways to show that the sources I am using are good ones. Can someone help? Walking Weird Studios (talk) 16:33, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Greetings. As has been repeatedly pointed out in the comments in your draft, we want to see significant coverage in reliable sources which are independent of the subject.  The only source which has been provided has been a link to the subject's own YouTube channel.  This is quite obviously not independent, nor is it reliable--we are not concerned with what a subject has to say about itself.  I have looked around for any indication whatsoever that anyone unconnected with Garcia or the channel has written about them and did not find anything.  Without independent sourcing, there is literally nothing upon which a proper encyclopedia article on the subject can be based.  There is nothing at all here to show that Garcia or his oeuvre are notable enough to merit an article here, and therefore I concur with the reviewer's rejection of the draft as not only unsuitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia, and indeed for any further consideration as such.  --Finngall talk  17:01, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

17:17:50, 12 August 2021 review of submission by Sandy Fortingal
How do I lodge a formal complaint against Locomotive207?

Sandy Fortingal

Sandy Fortingal (talk) 17:17, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * You should first attempt to talk out any grievance with another user. I assume this has to do with their declining of your draft. Escalating it to another forum means that your actions will be examined as well. 331dot (talk) 17:28, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

You have too many zealots stalking your platform being officious, obstructive and unhelpful. Who polices these people? Do they get any training? They create a negative and dispiriting environment for contributors.

Sandy


 * (edit conflict) Note that this appears to be regarding 's decline of Draft:Laurence Oliphant, 7th Laird of Gask, and that OP has already conversed with them on their talk page. --Finngall talk 17:35, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Sandy Fortingal, would you mind actually submitting the draft so that I can re-review it?--🌀 Locomotive207 - talk  🌀  19:10, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia editors are volunteers, and there are a number of community-based means to "police" those who do not follow policies and guidelines, but I checked around and didn't see anything "officious, obstructive, [or] unhelpful" directed toward you, merely reasonable attempts at communication and standard templated notices. If there is anything I missed which you see as actionable, please provide specifics (with diffs), but otherwise I would advise you to assume good faith of your fellow editors and not take anything too personally. --Finngall talk  21:15, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

18:26:00, 12 August 2021 review of submission by Kitanago
I would like to submit for consideration this article which has been transferred to the draft. I would like to know what I need to fix and if someone can help me please! Kitanago (talk) 18:26, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * We have very little interest in what the founder says about his company, only what independent reliable sources have reported. Theroadislong (talk) 18:31, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

20:13:04, 12 August 2021 review of submission by Ashokreddy
Does giving Youtube link for the movie help publishing this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NHCgMTDnjw

Ashokreddy (talk) 20:13, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

22:15:39, 12 August 2021 review of draft by Racer235
I was just wondering how I make my article in a more encyclopaedic tone. What words shouldn’t be used?

Racer235 (talk) 22:15, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * For example, “it looks majestic” “distinctive,” “unpleasant rubble” “very unpleasant,”a lot going on” “we reach a flat saddle” are not appropriate. Theroadislong (talk) 07:29, 13 August 2021 (UTC)