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= August 16 =

01:47:41, 16 August 2021 review of submission by Wikichyld
Made edits with just objective information and links.

Wikichyld (talk) 01:47, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

04:50:23, 16 August 2021 review of submission by Mukthi Nilayam
Mukthi Nilayam (talk) 04:50, 16 August 2021 (UTC) Mukthi Nilayam

Shall I Know The Reason That,Why Are You Declined My Request ?
 * Because it is WP:SPAM. -- Deep fried okra ( talk ) 06:58, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Request on 07:16:41, 16 August 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by ברטוביניו
Hi, I created the article on Gal Yosef, a well known 3d artist who works with some big names, published, won awards, sold over a million dollar of his art and has many articles on him. It seems the delition is unjust and although I reached out to the reviewer I get no answer. I wold like to understand how can this seletion happen and ask the draft to be restored. Can you please help? ברטוביניו (talk) 07:16, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Reasking since I get to answer as well the the deleting manager isnt avilable and says he is busy with his life. P;ease help. --ברטוביניו (talk) 11:14, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

ברטוביניו (talk) 07:16, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

10:20:11, 16 August 2021 review of submission by GreenWorldz
Hey! I feel it's pretty necessary to create a page for this show as it is a daily-soap that is running and other shows like Mehndi Hai Rachne Waali and Aapki Nazron Ne Samjha too have pages. The sources too seem reliable. Please take a decision you think is wise, Thankyou :)

GreenWorldz (talk) 10:20, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

13:28:25, 16 August 2021 review of submission by Tcr25
Not sure if this page (Mudiwa Hood) was pushed to the mainspace prematurely or what, but there is a ton of AFC templates/comments at the top of the page. It popped up on my list of files to assess for WP:Biography, but I'm not involved with AFC to know the proper process here. I would appreciate someone taking a look and either cleaning it up or draftifying or something. —Carter (Tcr25) (talk) 13:28, 16 August 2021 (UTC) Carter (Tcr25) (talk) 13:28, 16 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Nevermind. It looks like an inexperienced editor moved it from draft to main; I've returned it to draft so the AFC process can continue. —Carter (Tcr25) (talk) 13:39, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

14:33:32, 16 August 2021 review of draft by Berglt84
I do not understand the reason my submission was declined. The only note given by "MurielMary" was that "references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject." However, user "Bkissin" wrote in his initial evaluation that "Brown probably meets WP:NPROF or WP:NMUSIC, but it should be looked over for tone/puffery," so I do not believe the subject himself is unqualified or lacks sufficient notoriety for a dedicated article, and I tried to use a diverse pool of reputable independent sources, including IndyWeek, the Herald Sun, and Pulitzer. (I used the official bios from Duke University-affiliated pages to fill in gaps or provide more recent information.) The rules regarding sources recommend peer-reviewed articles, but peer-reviewed sources would be irregular for biographical information. Are there specific references or sources that should be removed in order to get the article approved for submission?

Berglt84 (talk) 14:33, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

16:16:32, 16 August 2021 review of draft by Mirabiliamira
Mirabiliamira (talk) 16:16, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Hallo everyone,

I can note understand wether an article "Ilaria Brocchini" is wating for review or not. Can you please tell me. Can you also help me with the article on this philosopher. She has already an article in the german Wikipedia

Thank you all--Mirabiliamira (talk) 16:16, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

16:38:36, 16 August 2021 review of draft by Haley St. Dennis
Haley St. Dennis (talk) 16:38, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

17:36:16, 16 August 2021 review of submission by 103.110.115.204
103.110.115.204 (talk) 17:36, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

20:30:22, 16 August 2021 review of submission by 87.89.61.199
The earlier version of this page was deleted not because it was not notable, but because it contained similar information to a previously deleted page and was poorly cited.

I request you to kindly look into it with more sensitivity and revive the page. This writer, author, and activist has brought about significant change in the queer space in a country like India where “queer rights” is a lot more necessary and required.

This page qualifies and should exist on Wikipedia because this person has sufficient notability to be here such as GQ, Grazia, etc and I see no reason to not approve this page.

87.89.61.199 (talk) 20:30, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Refer to the top table here:
 * https://fiftyshadesofgay.co.in/aditya-exclusive-interview-queer-poet/ is useless for notability (connexion to subject). Interview with an insubstantial lede.
 * https://www.thequint.com/neon/gender/narendra-modi-government-on-same-sex-marriage-activists-lgbtqia-reaction is a non-sequitur, though given it bills itself as a "4 [minute] read" and the article I see is nowhere near long enough to meet that, I have to assume that the article is walled and therefore can't really assess it.
 * https://www.gqindia.com/get-smart/content/instagram-poets-weigh-in-on-the-pandemic is useless for notability (too sparse). Most of the section on Tiwari is quotes.
 * We can't use https://yebhitheekhai.com/l-for-love-is-love/ (too sparse). This is a listicle of poems.
 * https://lambdaliterary.org/2019/12/imagining-a-world-with-queer-royals-and-representation/ is useless for notability (too sparse). A quote and a couple of sentences, that's it.
 * https://gaysifamily.com/2020/11/24/april-is-lush-takes-you-to-the-poets-inner-mind-and-warrants-emotional-engagement/ seems fine.
 * We can't use youthkiawaaz.com/2019/11/april-is-lush-poems-by-aditya-tiwari/ (copyright infringement, no editorial oversight). The scans of the book's pages push this source squarely into WP:ELNO territory; we cannot link to or cite pages that infringe copyright. (It's one thing to cite the poems and critique them; it's quite another to get a copy of the book and scan its pages to comment on the poems.) Even if this were addressed, I can't see where it has an editor-in-chief, but I can see that it solicits articles from the general populace, ("Youth Ki Awaaz's open publishing platform enables you to publish a story or perspective on any issue you're passionate about."), making it worthless as a source overall.
 * We can't use https://www.gaylaxymag.com/articles/art-culture/lush-plush-and-a-daze-review-of-adityas-april-is-lush/ (no editorial oversight). I don't see where they have a editor-in-chief listed.
 * We can't use https://www.news18.com/news/buzz/digital-and-one-rainbow-lit-fest-is-back-with-second-edition-of-indias-biggest-queer-literary-event-3137933.html (unknown provenance). Not only is there no byline, News18 has a habit of performing black-hat SEO on the side.
 * https://www.gqindia.com/get-smart/content/pride-month-7-incredible-virtual-events-to-safely-celebrate-pride-in-a-pandemic is useless for notability (too sparse). Name-drop.
 * https://brignews.com/2021/04/13/coming-out-of-lockdown-look-at-me-now/ is useless for notability (connexion to subject). Interview in a listicle.
 * https://gal-dem.com/was-2020-the-beginning-of-the-end-of-gender/ is borderline at best. There is some substance here, but half of the stuff about him is quotes from him.
 * https://outnewsglobal.com/the-new-tiktok-trend-gen-zs-are-using-to-signal-their-pronouns/ is useless for notability (too sparse). Quotes, no actual coverage of him.
 * https://www.grazia.co.in/lifestyle/culture/this-is-how-queer-people-find-comfort-in-friendships-during-the-pandemic-7617.html is useless for notability (too sparse). Most of the paragraph where he's discussed is quotes from him and his SO.
 * We can't use https://www.refinery29.com/en-gb/2021/07/10547113/queer-coming-of-age (unknown provenance). It's impossible to tell from the text if this is Tiwari or some other person with the same given name of "Aditya".
 * https://www.vice.com/en/article/88nq4z/never-watched-friends-reunion-tv-show-sitcom is useless for notability (too sparse). Quote.
 * https://theswaddle.com/the-internet-is-an-emotional-outlet-for-many-but-is-crying-into-the-void-helping-people-heal/ is useless for notability (too sparse). Most of the two paragraphs about him are direct quotes from him, with the one sentence left over not enough to help for notability.
 * https://www.sheffieldwire.co.uk/2021/03/08/lockdown-gave-us-time-to-focus-on-ourselves-can-post-covid-society-keep-this-benefit/ is useless for notability (too sparse). Quote.
 * Your problem is that practically all of your sources "about" him are literally just handing him a mic to boast-rap. Sources that only parrot his quotes do not help for showing he's notable. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 22:30, 16 August 2021 (UTC)