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= August 3 =

01:41:57, 3 August 2021 review of draft by Aspiresumellc
I am requesting help to better understand why the draft was declined. The sources provided do reference the musician and some are even solely written with the artist as the primary subject. Other references included were to substantiate that venues performed at, artists collaborated with, etc., are in fact noteworthy. The artist has an extensive discography and has been publicly recognized within the electronic music industry as a producer, label manager, and disc jockey. One aspect that is challenging is that there are numerous other electronic artists with wikipedia pages who have very few references and not nearly the extensive documentation as this artist. Can you please help me to understand better? Thank you in advance for your time! Aspiresumellc (talk) 01:41, 3 August 2021 (UTC) Aspiresumellc

Aspiresumellc (talk) 01:41, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

02:08:43, 3 August 2021 review of draft by Bekwright
I'd uploaded an image to accompany a Wikipedia page I've been working on about Samuel A. Culbert. For some reason, the image seems to have disappeared. Can you tell me why this happened and how to fix it? Thank you!

Bekwright (talk) 02:08, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I assume you mean File:Sam full size (1).jpg. If so, it was removed because it appearwed to be a copyright violation of https://www.huffpost.com/entry/good-people-bad-managers-an-interview-with-samuel_b_59f1ebf7e4b05f0ade1b554b. For legal reasons, we cannot host images that appear copyrighted elsewhere, unless we recive a permission statement via VRT or it can be proven that the image was here first. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 15:26, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

02:47:47, 3 August 2021 review of submission by Shekhar Aman
I have added all the reliable sources. I tried my best to keep the neutral view. I also removed all the external links.

Shekhar Aman (talk) 02:47, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

04:57:48, 3 August 2021 review of submission by 66.119.206.226
I have edited it to remove the areas that were originally in question (and saw their point). It is now nearly an exact replica of a couple different school district pages that I viewed to create this one yet it's been denied again. I'm a bit confused as to why theirs are fine, but this one is not when the content is similar. It is neutral and has citations throughout. I'm just confused. Thanks!

66.119.206.226 (talk) 04:57, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Request on 05:11:52, 3 August 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Vedlagt
I have an article in my Sandbox that I would like to move to Articles for Creation. Could I get some help for this? Thank you Vedlagt (talk) 05:11, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Vedlagt (talk) 05:11, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

05:35:40, 3 August 2021 review of submission by Hoponpop69
Subject meets notability in lieu of past days events and media coverage. However, title should probably be moved to "Christine Weston Chandler" since that is what most sources use.Hoponpop69 (talk) 05:35, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Hoponpop69 (talk) 05:35, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Considering the rather horrendous history this topic has on Wikipedia, I'd be incredibly leery of touching this with a ten foot pole. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 06:11, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

What happened to this, how did the whole draft get deleted?Hoponpop69 (talk) 19:37, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Per Creating Draft:Chris-Chan, User:GorillaWarfare deleted it as being an attack page, negative, or unsourced. Unless someone vandalized the page before they viewed it, none of this is true. The article was meticulously sourced and of a neutral viewpoint.Hoponpop69 (talk) 19:45, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Copying my reply from my talk page here since I've been pinged: If people wish to "document" this individual on outside sites, that is their prerogative, and certainly not under the purview of admins on this site. But Wikipedia is not the place for entirely negative, extremely detailed "documentation" of private, non-notable individuals, and attempts to do so (in mainspace or in other locations like drafts) can and should be deleted as harassment. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 19:56, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

07:02:08, 3 August 2021 review of submission by DerveshpurGaushala
DerveshpurGaushala (talk) 07:02, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Any further requests to review your drafts will be reverted off. You have been given as much help as we can provide and you are insistent on ignoring the lot of it, not to mention the sockpuppetry concerns (Main account:). —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 07:05, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * This is not a draft that you submitted, it is an article in main space. You are wasting everyone's time here. Theroadislong (talk) 07:07, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

11:05:04, 3 August 2021 review of submission by Getfamouseget74
Getfamouseget74 (talk) 11:05, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

My article is rejected 3 times on your website. Please let me know what should I do so that it gets approved. Heres the link- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Getfamouseget74/sandbox

11:22:35, 3 August 2021 review of submission by Shekhar Aman
I have removed all the external links. I kept the article at a neutral point. Shekhar Aman (talk) 11:22, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. No amount of editing can confer notability on a subject. 331dot (talk) 12:11, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

12:33:44, 3 August 2021 review of submission by Fundacja Okulistyka 21
Please help me add a biography. Please tell me why in the Polish version of wikipedia everything is correct, and here there is a problem? Fundacja Okulistyka 21 (talk) 12:33, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Each language edition of Wikipedia is a seperate project with seperate rules and (likelky) different editors. One article that might be acceptable in the polish Wikipedia might not be acceptable here, and and article accepted here might not be acceptable in the polish Wikipedia, see WP:OSE for more information. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 15:16, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

12:39:42, 3 August 2021 review of draft by Justiyaya
Hi, I am requesting help because my draft got rejected for GNG reasons.

After letting the draft sit for quite a while, looking at the sources, I am quite sure that it meets GNG, can someone take a look at my sources, or look at my analysis below to see if the subject is notable enough, and tell me what my next steps should be?


 * 1 Fast Company, not listed on WP:RSPS, I think it's fine, but debatable
 * 2 Quartz Listed on WP:RSPS as "generally reliable"
 * 3 Chicago Tribune not listed on RSPS, I think it's fine, but also debatable
 * 4 techcrunch Listed on WP:RSPS as "less useful for the purpose of determining notability"
 * 5 forbes Likely unreliable, Forbes.com contributors.
 * 6 and 7 are self published.

(a previous version of this was archived without any response)

Also feel free to give any other feedback on the draft, thanks!

 Just ' i ' yaya  12:39, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Request on 14:21:48, 3 August 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Star Max Red
Hi, how can I recover the content of my page deleted for copyright violation?

Star Max Red (talk) 14:21, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * For legal reasons, we're generally not able to restore pages that contain copyright violations. I'd recommend starting afresh: find a few reliable sources about the topic, and summarize what they say in your own words. You might find this introduction to writing articles helpful. Let me know if you have any more questions! Extraordinary Writ (talk) 05:59, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

15:38:51, 3 August 2021 review of submission by Bwmdjeff
In the last day multiple notable and good sources have released articles on Chandler, so I believe that now Chandler is notable and this article should be re-reviewed. Bwmdjeff (talk) 15:38, 3 August 2021 (UTC) Bwmdjeff (talk) 15:38, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Request on 16:10:07, 3 August 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Noaghebreab
Hi, my submission has been declined because it is not adequately supported by reliable sources. It is unclear to me whether this means the current references are not reliable. If so which references are these? Or whether it means some of the text is not supported by sources at all (despite the 25 references)? If so which text? I am happy to add references or adapt the text where needed, but need some help I guess to identify where. --Noaghebreab (talk) 16:10, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Noaghebreab (talk) 16:10, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Review of Article (Rejected)
Hi! I've made a draft here: Draft:Environmental Sampling Techniques which was declined. I understand that the reviewer thinks it lacks reliable sources, which I understand and agree with, but the page is just meant to be a nice link between lots of articles on wikipedia that are of the same topic but that don't link to one another. The draft came about because I was trying to look up various sampling techniques myself to see if there is a more appropriate one for my investigation, but all the sampling techniques I looked up didn't connect to one another in the "See Also" sections. Hence, I thought it would be a good idea to create a page to allow users like myself have a page where these pages of the same topic are sort of "indexed". So the point of the page isn't really to give new information, so surely it doesn't need sources? All it is meant to do is act as a link to other pages and show those who are curious some of the others techniques used. Should I do something else instead? Many thanks, --EcheveriaJ (talk) 17:23, 3 August 2021 (UTC)


 * , It might be viable if you reformat it to a list article. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:36, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Request on 17:25:55, 3 August 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Docsville
Hello, hope all is well. I am trying to submit an article successfully about filmmaker Lawrence Elman, however I keep running into issues in the reviewing process. My latest comment from Wikipedia is as follows: As previously, please remove external links from the content and references need to be correctly formatted per WP:REFB.

While that details what issues are in my submission, I don't really understand how to change them, and I am not entirely sure what Wikipedia is asking for that is different from what I have submitted. I thought my references were properly formatted? What external links from content do I need to remove? I would love a bit more clarification on the matter. Thank you!

Docsville (talk) 17:25, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I made some improvements in format and content. You're still a bit away from this being accepted. If you had better sources for his work, and more profiles about him, rather than just including sources where his name is listed along with others in the credits of film reviews, that would do the trick. For example, there's almost no information about him in the sources.  If you knew nothing about him and read the sources only, would you be able to create a decent article?  Where did he grow up?  What's his background? Profile media coverage is a sign of notability. Also, you'll want to change your user name.  It can't be the name of a company related to the subject. See Username policy. Best to abandon it and start fresh with a new one. And lastly, see WP:COI to make the proper disclosures on your new user talk page. TechnoTalk (talk) 22:00, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

20:25:15, 3 August 2021 review of submission by John Patrick Harris
John Patrick Harris (talk) 20:25, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * The sourcing you used for your article doesn't demonstrate notability. It is just press releases. You need independent media coverage.  See WP:RS and WP:NBLP. TechnoTalk (talk) 21:12, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

23:43:58, 3 August 2021 review of draft by Vroom42
Hi Wiki Helpers, My draft article, on the company AKIPS, in my sandbox was not approved by Tol about 5 days ago. I have a feeling that it is mainly because the company is not notable enough; most of the references are the company's own website. My boss (yes, I am being paid to do this as an employee of the company) doesn't understand, because much older sub-standard articles on other software networking companies were passed 10 years ago, that this one is now not acceptable. I doubt with the lack of independent references it will meet the new standards even if if I rewrite it. Any assistance would be gratefully received. Thank you Vroom42 (talk) 23:43, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Vroom42 (talk) 23:43, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * You must make a formal paid editing declaration on your user page; this is a Terms of Use requirement. Older articles are just that- older- created when standards were very different than they are today.  As this is a volunteer project where people do what they can when they can, we haven't yet gotten around to every article that is currently inappropriate.  We only have other editors to rely on in pointing out articles that may not be up to standards.  It is true that if there are no independent reliable sources with significant coverage of your company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable company, it would not merit an article at this time.  Feel free to show your boss this message.331dot (talk) 23:50, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * and Added suggestions for changes to the submission. Please read them and make some improvements to the tone and the sourcing. The chances of the draft being accepted will improve.  Eternal Shadow   Talk  00:29, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
 * @Vroom42 Your boss will need to get used to disappointment if the corp fails WP:NCORP. Bosses need to learn humility. Wikipedia has no interest in what they wish to say about the corporation. We care about what others say in sources that pass WP:42 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 21:31, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
 * It's unlikely they were "passed 10 years ago". Drafting was in its infancy in 2011, and wasn't made mandatory until February 2018. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 01:09, 5 August 2021 (UTC)