Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2021 December 28

= December 28 =

04:08:54, 28 December 2021 review of draft by IHuB2021
Hi there, my draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Pantai_Hospital_Kuala_Lumpur has been declined. I have made some changes. Kindly advise if this is still look like advertisement. The information I got is based on the books, journals, website and so forth. Please advise. IHuB2021 (talk) 04:08, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

IHuB2021 (talk) 04:08, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
 * , Your article reads like an advertisement than presenting it in encyclopaedic manner. It needs to be rewritten. You may read other similar articles or WP:BETTER for writing a better article. See also Kuala Lumpur Hospital. Regards TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 19:21, 28 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your opinion. I have revised the paragraph and sentences. Is the article still looks like advertisement? IHuB2021 (talk) 07:01, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

04:34:09, 28 December 2021 review of submission by Chakraborty Saikat
Keeping the reviewer's comments in mind I have changed the content on the page. I request the reviewer to kindly re-review the page and see if it fits the Wikipedia page standards. Chakraborty Saikat (talk) 04:34, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
 * , ✅. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 19:23, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

Request on 05:09:53, 28 December 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by جاسم آهن
Dear Wiki Team, I am trying to make a wiki page for Late Jassim Abdulaziz. He was well renowned Qatar Television anchor and host, and was popular among the local community and GCC countries. He joined Qatar Television in early 1980's. In my recently article created for him, mentioned basic information like date of birth, demise date and honor the government has given in regard to his services. Unfortunately, all the references are from local newspaper websites. The national television website, has no information related to their staff (present or past).

Can you kindly assist, how can we create page for him. If it is acceptable, can we arrange a letter and send it to your team that shows his employment details.

Appreciate your kind assistance in this regard.

جاسم آهن (talk) 05:09, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I took a look and approved your article. Given a studio named after him, condolences by the PM and the other references mentioning his connection to national events, subject appears notable. Slywriter (talk) 05:48, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

07:23:49, 28 December 2021 review of submission by NileshPatel560
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I've added a few more sources that are able to show the notability for the subject. NileshPatel560 (talk) 07:23, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

08:39:13, 28 December 2021 review of submission by Shruti232002Bond
Shruti232002Bond (talk) 08:39, 28 December 2021 (UTC) Need help. Are these websites not acceptable? ZEE5 & Mid-day are good and notable news resources. Shruti232002Bond (talk) 08:39, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
 * The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. The sources themselves may be okay, but their content is not. Interviews are primary sources and not acceptable for establishing that this company meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable company.  Wikipedia is not a place to merely tell about a company; an article must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a company, not based on interviews or any other materials put out by the company, its staff, or associates.  That includes basic announcements. Please read Your First Article.  If you have an association with this company, please read about conflict of interest and paid editing for information on required formal disclosures. 331dot (talk) 08:43, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

Shruti232002Bond (talk) 09:43, 28 December 2021 (UTC) Thank you for the clarification. I had asked this yesterday. How do I claim paid contributions and disclose the employer details etc. But did not get a response. Can you help as to how its to be done? After disclosing the same, will the content be accepted? Shruti232002Bond (talk) 09:43, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:PAID for information on how to make the disclosure on your user page, User:Shruti232002Bond. Disclosure is required by the Wikipedia Terms of Use and must occur irrespective of what happens to your draft.  The content has already been rejected and will not be considered further, for the reasons I discuss above. Articles are typically written by independent editors that lack any connection whatsoever with the topic; those editors take note of a topic being covered in independent sources and choose on their own to write about it. That's usually the best indicator that a topic is notable; a topic trying to force the issue and do it themselves is not often successful, because company representatives are too close to their company to be able to set aside what they know about it(among other reasons).  331dot (talk) 09:48, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

09:52:58, 28 December 2021 review of submission by Zian Sreekanth (Film Editor)
Zian Sreekanth (Film Editor) (talk) 09:52, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
 * You don't ask a question, but your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell the world about themselves, please read the autobiography policy. 331dot (talk) 09:55, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
 * If you are attempting to post a reply, pleaes edit this existing section, instead of creating additional sections. This is easier to do in full desktop mode, even in a browser on a device, the app and mobile versions do not yet have full functionality. 331dot (talk) 10:05, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

09:53:52, 28 December 2021 review of submission by 46.131.44.207
Hello,

This is my first time publishing an article on Wikipedia. Since I have no previous experience with writing articles here, I would really appreciate some feedback, advice and tips on how to improve my article and make it worthy of being available on Wikipedia. If you have some specific examples of what the article definitely shouldn't include, you can also point it out, so I know what to be aware of next time.

Kind regards, Ave 46.131.44.207 (talk) 09:53, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
 * There are no edits from your IP address other than this comment, so I am guessing that you forgot to log in. 331dot (talk) 09:55, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

11:16:26, 28 December 2021 review of submission by Avenurmeots
Hello,

Yes I forgot to log in the first time I wrote. I will publish it again from under my user now.

This is my first time publishing an article on Wikipedia. Since I have no previous experience with writing articles here, I would really appreciate some feedback, advice and tips on how to improve my article and make it worthy of being available on Wikipedia. If you have some specific examples of what the article definitely shouldn't include, you can also point it out, so I know what to be aware of next time.

Avenurmeots (talk) 11:16, 28 December 2021 (UTC)


 * @Avenurmeots I imagine you speak of Draft:Incap Corporation. This has an important banner at the head suggesting it may be an article written for reward. I will leave a formal question on your user page whcih requires a formal answer.
 * Your draft is written for the corporation ;s perspective, not form the perspective of what other people say about it. Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 12:46, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

13:47:44, 28 December 2021 review of draft by Montreuxconvention
Hi i have two question when citing a source about a person and they are just named on the source is that does that count as a citied source? also the BFI (British Film Institute) is not said to be a reliable source or and unreliable one does that mean I can use it?

Montreuxconvention (talk) 13:47, 28 December 2021 (UTC)


 * @Montreuxconvention For a living person we have a high standard of referencing. Every substantive fact you assert, especially one that is susceptible to potential challenge, requires a citation with a reference that is about them, and is independent of them, in multiple secondary sources which are WP:RS, and is significant coverage. Please also see WP:PRIMARY which details the limited permitted usage of primary sources and WP:SELFPUB which has clear limitations on self published sources. Providing sufficient references, ideally one per fact cited, that meet these tough criteria is likely to make this draft a clear acceptance (0.9 probability). Lack of them or an inability to find them is likely to mean that the person is not suitable for inclusion, certainly today.
 * That ought to answer the first question Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 13:49, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

18:27:21, 28 December 2021 review of submission by Mysterious Whisper
The target page is create-protected, and I noticed most recently-accepted AfC submissions were reviewed by non-admins. I'm not trying to jump the queue (and since drafts are reviewed in no specific order, there really isn't any queue to jump), I'm just a little concerned that non-admins might pass this over due to the extra complication. Mysterious Whisper (talk) 18:27, 28 December 2021 (UTC)


 * this will not prevent anyone reviewing your draft or accepting it. If accepted there may a delay in publishing it until an can admin either move it or unprotect the target, but this is standard procedure that reviewers are prepared to handle.  S0091 (talk) 19:38, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

19:57:58, 28 December 2021 review of submission by Radhihudijan
I have provided enough resources and the character achieves the notability required for Wikipedia. moreover, the character is one of the famous poets in UAE and he is a poet who reaches widely in the Arab world .he was also the 6th winner of Million's Poet TV show. thus, this article needs to be reviewed. Radhihudijan (talk) 19:57, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
 * The draft was rejected, meaning it will not be considered further. What matters is if this person meets the Wikipedia definition of a notable creative professional, and it seems that he does not at this time. 331dot (talk) 20:07, 28 December 2021 (UTC)