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= December 31 =

07:46:46, 31 December 2021 review of submission by JaredMars
JaredMars (talk) 07:46, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Your draft fails to provide any references to independent, reliable sources that devote significant coverage to this film. Without such coverage, an acceptable Wikipedia article is impossible to write. Cullen328 (talk) 07:55, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

08:34:09, 31 December 2021 review of draft by Tullia Rossato
My submission was declined because of references regarding unreliable sources. I need help understanding which of the sources I used are identified as unreliable, and if the editor, when writing his response, was saying that all of the references didn't show significant coverage or just that some didn't.

Tullia Rossato (talk) 08:34, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
 * , none of your sources are independent of the subject. You need to find reliable sources that have no connection to the subject.  The Vail Daily while it looks independent is actually a profile by a connected source (alum was a big hint, editors note to article makes it obvious) Slywriter (talk)

Request on 10:04:19, 31 December 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Keijusiivet
Hello, My submission of draft was declined due to reference. Although the second message was very unclear of why the references I added were not sufficient. The first reference was a book by legitimate publication house with ISBN registration. The second reference which was article conducted by academic personnel, was used as reference of the same Wikipedia article in German version (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jigme_Tenpe_Wangchug) and Bengalisch version (https://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27%E0%A6%9C%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%97%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%B8-%E0%A6%AE%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%A6-%E0%A6%AC%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%B8%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%A4%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%A8-%E0%A6%AA%E0%A6%BE%27%E0%A6%87-%E0%A6%A6%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%AC%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%82-%E0%A6%AB%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%AF%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%97). Could someone please give some detailed feedback of why my references aren't sufficient enough?

Keijusiivet (talk) 10:04, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

12:57:53, 31 December 2021 review of submission by Laboratorynews
It is a company details page, along with the Social Activities what Redcliffe Labs is doing...There is No promotional content Laboratorynews (talk) 12:57, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia does not have "company details pages", not a single one. That is considered promotional here, you don't have to be soliciting or selling something. Wikipedia has articles.  Those articles, when about a company, must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company(and not based on any materials put out by the company, such as interviews, press releases, or announcements), showing how the company meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable company.  Your draft is exclusively sourced to annoucements, which are not significant, independent coverage.
 * If you have an association with this company, you must read about conflict of interest and paid editing. Declaring a paid relationship with a subject you are editing about is a Terms of Use requirement and mandatory. 331dot (talk) 13:03, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
 * As your draft was rejected, it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 13:04, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

13:09:56, 31 December 2021 review of submission by AhmadJawadbth
AhmadJawadbth (talk) 13:09, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
 * You don't ask a question, but Wikipedia is not a place to post your resume. This is an encyclopedia, not social media. Please read the autobiography policy. 331dot (talk) 13:24, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Request on 13:59:17, 31 December 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by SirWumpus
The reviewer's response This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage... I contest the finding. I supplied three independent 3rd party publications in which the article subject in question appears. I have hard copies of all three and have provided photo evidence of them and the pages on which the references to subject are made below.

(https://www.amazon.ca/Obfuscated-Other-Mysteries-Don-Libes/dp/0471578053/ref=sr_1_1)
 * Obfuscted C And Other Mysteries by Don Libes start of ch 39 pg 392. - subject is top of the chapter
 * The Debian Linux User's Guide for Debian 1.1 Buzz, pg 192 - the 1st Debian release containing subject
 * C User Journal Nov 1993 http://ftp.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/toc/cccuj.html#11(11):November:1993 - here subject was part of a collection reviewed in article. There was the CUG 388 CDROM with the material, but having trouble finding my complimentary copy.

Part of the issue might be I failed to use (didn't figure out) wiki markup in a way I could at least tie the history text to the publications cited and that they were placed separate from the references, so they might just appear as random references in an initial review.

Also not sure this 4th one falls under the publication guidelines, though it was the impetus for everything that followed over the years, the IOCCC's publishing of subject as a contest winner.

There is a French article https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony%27s_Editor created independently back in 2010, without my knowledge for a long time, with a far less detailed history of the subject, which is fair since all the publications listed above were only found in N.America in English and that contributor never contacted me for background.

I created this English version in part so that the French version might one day be updated.

I tried to write as neutral and general as possible.

Photo evidence follows:

SirWumpus (talk) 13:59, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Please do not upload pictures of your sources to Wikimedia Commons (or Wikipedia). Copyright-wise, these pictures will be a derivate work of the works in the picture, which means that we can only have them if whatever is in the picture is compatibly licensed or Public domain. Victor Schmidt (talk) 15:53, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

19:34:09, 31 December 2021 review of submission by Damnits
how do i move this to userspace?

Damnits (talk) 19:34, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi . See User pages and Moving a page. The first field of the move dialog box lets you choose the space "User" from the dropdown. In the second field, use your username followed by a slash and the name you want to use for the userspace draft, perhaps "Damnits/Rodoljub Vulović" or "Damnits/sandbox". --Worldbruce (talk) 20:03, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

20:15:17, 31 December 2021 review of submission by TjS1979
Hi - thank you Lightbluerain for responding so quickly to my draft of the "Dents and Shells (Richard Buckner Album)" Page! I had carefully read the guidelines on reliable sources, and all information in the page was assembled from three reviews (all of them cited) and the liner notes of the album. If you could please let me know which pieces of information are considered unreliable I will remove them, or if something in there requires an additional citation I will cite it. I really appreciate your assistance. Thank you.

TjS1979 (talk) 20:15, 31 December 2021 (UTC)