Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2021 July 11

= July 11 =

05:59:19, 11 July 2021 review of submission by 2405:201:5C0A:4A9A:F579:C2A6:B145:4483
This is my first attempt at creating wikipedia article. I am unable to understand why the draft is getting rejected inspite of a notable personality, reputed links and following all wikipedia guidelines. Please help. 2405:201:5C0A:4A9A:F579:C2A6:B145:4483 (talk) 05:59, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * The reason for the rejection was given by the reviewer; the person does not meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable actor. 331dot (talk) 06:33, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

06:02:13, 11 July 2021 review of submission by Helpo786
Helpo786 (talk) 06:02, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * You don't ask a question. Please edit this existing section to ask your question, instead of creating additional sections. 331dot (talk) 06:34, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Dear This is the name of a person who is real, Azaman Anwer it works for modeling and acting from Malaysia. Helpo786 (talk) 06:39, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * That this person is real is not at issue. The person does not meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable actor.  As such, the draft was rejected, and will not be considered further.  No amount of editing can confer notability on a person, it depends on significant coverage in independent reliable sources.  Please read Your First Article.
 * If you have additional comment, please edit this existing section, do not create additional sections. This is easier to do with the full desktop version of Wikipedia in a browser on your device than in the app or mobile version, which do not have full functionality. 331dot (talk) 06:46, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

07:08:39, 11 July 2021 review of submission by Wikistarred 8604
Wikistarred 8604 (talk) 07:08, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

I am aware that the previous version of this page looked more like an advertisement, so I rewrote it to make it look more encyclopedic. I have taken care of the neutral and informative-only guidelines. I request you to reconsider this page for submission. If submission is still rejected, kindly send me some advice regarding what further changes might be required. Thanks. Wikistarred 8604

Wikistarred 8604 (talk) 07:16, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further and that no amount of editing can change that. For a person to merit an article, they must receive significant coverage in independent reliable sources like books or news reports. Please read Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 07:20, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

The person concerned has received independent coverage in several news reports. If I do add news reports, would that help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikistarred 8604 (talk • contribs)
 * The reviewer rejected the draft because it seems unlikely that the person would meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person. If you have significant news reports, that are not just a brief mention and are not an interview with this person, sources that have chosen on their own to provide this person with significant coverage, you will need to first bring that up with the reviewer.  Most "YouTubers" rarely merit articles, even those with many subscribers, as large numbers of subscribers are not part of the notability criteria. A person can have tens of millions of subscribers and not merit an article, and a person can have 5 subscribers and merit one.  It depends on the sources. 331dot (talk) 07:29, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

07:31:44, 11 July 2021 review of submission by ImranGhaziOfficial
ImranGhaziOfficial (talk) 07:31, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell the world about themselves, please see the autobiography policy. 331dot (talk) 07:34, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

08:01:08, 11 July 2021 review of submission by Ptvikassharmaabvp
Ptvikassharmaabvp (talk) 08:01, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * You don't ask a question, but Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell the world about themselves. Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to state about a person, showing how they meet Wikipedia's special definition of a notable person. Please read Your first article. 331dot (talk) 08:11, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

08:43:30, 11 July 2021 review of submission by Roohul88
Roohul88 (talk) 08:43, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * We do not accept articles or drafts written solely to advertise or promote the subject of the article, and this draft has no acceptable sources regardless. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 09:26, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

09:03:19, 11 July 2021 review of draft by FlowerMoon593
FlowerMoon593 (talk) 09:03, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

I am currently editing the draft:Holy Coves, before I submit I was wondering if it was possible for someone to look it over please? Im worried resubmitting it if it doesnt meet the requirments will get it deleted! :/ Many thanks in advance!


 * Hi . The way to ask for someone to "look it over" is to submit it for review. Other people are waiting 4 months between reviews because there's a huge backlog (in part because people keep submitting hopeless drafts). This help desk is to answer specific questions about the process, it is not a shortcut through the review-improve-resubmit cycle. If you repeatedly resubmit with little or no improvement, then yes, the draft is likely to be deleted. You should be fine, though, if you make an earnest attempt to understand Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, thoroughly address problems that reviewers have raised, and make major improvements to the draft.


 * Have you read WP:NBAND backwards, forwards, upside down and sideways? To be successful, it's vital that you understand whether Holy Coves is notable (suitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia as a stand alone article) or not, be able to explain in a sentence how they are notable (usually the first or second sentence of the draft, see MOS:LEAD), and have at least three independent, reliable, secondary sources containing significant coverage that prove it. Quality of references is much more important than quantity. Contact Music, Liverpool Echo, North Wales Live, and Louder Than War are probably your best. The others may hurt the draft more than they help. See WikiProject Albums/Sources for sources Wikipedians have found useful when writing about music. Also act on the advice you've been given about too many red links, and more generally reduce the overlinking in the draft. --Worldbruce (talk) 14:15, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi Thankyou for your message and advice :) My eyes are literally going square from all the reading I have been doing on helping my draft! Haha! :O Sorry if it appears as though I am looking for a shortcut to review, that was not my intention and I apologise, I was worried if I submitted it again it might be deleted. I had removed red links, but I will go back and remove more. Thankyou again :) FlowerMoon593 (talk) 14:24, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

09:15:25, 11 July 2021 review of submission by 175.145.98.33
175.145.98.33 (talk) 09:15, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * This has become disruptive. The draft has been rejected and will not be considered further. Badgering people here with incessant sections is just going to result in those sections being summarily reverted off. And if you move your draft to main space in spite of the rejection, I will waste no time taking it to Articles for Deletion. Start listening to the advice you've been receiving. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 09:21, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

09:17:42, 11 July 2021 review of submission by 102.89.3.47
He is a notable person in Nigeria and has contributed towards youth development and education 102.89.3.47 (talk) 09:17, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * This draft has been rejected and will not be considered further. No sources, no article, no debate. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 09:22, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

10:09:11, 11 July 2021 review of draft by Rizky Novalini
Greetings. I wrote and submitted an article last month and it got declined. The reviewer gave me an explanation of the problems surrounding that article and the reason why it got declined. I went to fix it and resubmitted the article on June 24 but until now I haven't received any word from any reviewer? Is there something wrong with the article? I also explained to the reviewer who declined my draft. I made an apology, fixed what I did wrong, and explained how what I wrote is there on the sources I used. However, the references are mostly in Bahasa Indonesia so I understand if there be misunderstandings.

Sorry for rambling on, is there anything else in the article that I have to fix in order to get reviewed?

Thank you.

Rizky Novalini (talk) 10:09, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * As noted on your submission, "This may take 4 months or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 2,825 pending submissions waiting for review." The backlog has been reduced from 5 months, but you will need to continue to be patient. 331dot (talk) 10:41, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

11:37:59, 11 July 2021 review of submission by Hamidkhan779
Hamidkhan779 (talk) 11:37, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * You don't ask a question, but your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 13:35, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

14:01:52, 11 July 2021 review of submission by Rishitshivesh
Hey, What should I do to have enough to make a Wikipedia page. I also wanna use it to feature it on Google. Please help! Rishitshivesh (talk) 14:01, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * The subject of this draft (which, based on your username, is presumably you) does not appear to meet the notability criteria for an article. -- Kinu t/c 15:51, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

15:46:58, 11 July 2021 review of draft by 2001:56A:73E9:1800:9955:8413:F766:C9DE
2001:56A:73E9:1800:9955:8413:F766:C9DE (talk) 15:46, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * This draft contains no content. What is your question? -- Kinu t/c 17:07, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

16:54:03, 11 July 2021 review of draft by Rybkovich
The draft was rejected by based on copyright grounds. Following our procedure I asked several brief and specific questions "what's the copyrighted content? What I quoted? Do you have a rule on how many words I can quote?" There was no response. Instead my name was included in an answer to another editor regarding a different article and an unrelated issue:

"76% contents are from here. Read WP:COPYVIO and WP:C-P "

Assuming the issue is regarding the cited paragraphs:

Two quotes are brief, conveying a cult leader's specific and emotional description of the key events in his teachings. The other quote is from a cult member's description and purpose of group activity which to some would be considered controversial. This quote was made of an end of one sentence followed another sentence.

Thank you.

(talk) 16:54, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

18:43:34, 11 July 2021 review of submission by Aapki Kahani Aapki Zubani
Aapki Kahani Aapki Zubani (talk) 18:43, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

21:05:48, 11 July 2021 review of draft by 154.118.44.226
154.118.44.226 (talk) 21:05, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Hello,

Please can someone help me resolve the issues given about a page I want to add to Wikipedia, this is the page link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Crystabel_Goddy thank you
 * Both of your sources are written in the first-person. Independence from the subject is one of the things we look for to see if a source is acceptable. In addition, we are not interested in a rerun of the Seigenthaler incident. Every biographical claim that could potentially be challenged for any reason what-so-ever MUST be cited to a strong third-party source that corroborates the claim or (if no such sources can be found) removed wholesale. This is a HARD REQUIREMENT when writing about living or recently-departed people on Wikipedia and is NOT NEGOTIABLE. —<i style="color: #1E90FF;">A little blue Bori</i> v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 21:37, 11 July 2021 (UTC) (Edited 21:41, 11 July 2021 (UTC))

21:31:45, 11 July 2021 review of submission by Dr Fluffy Quackers
Hi! I just resubmitted my article stub after reading my violation policy WP:NARTIST. I believe I addressed everything necessary and eager for your feedback! Thanks so much

Dr Fluffy Quackers (talk) 21:31, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. No amount of editing can confer notability. 331dot (talk) 21:34, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Ok. So when the time comes and I find new articles that support the subject - do I just do a completely new start to the subject? Like a brand new article? Cause It would still say there is already a draft about the subject. Dr Fluffy Quackers (talk) 21:41, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

And I am curious - based on the new comment and source I listed - do you feel that is sufficient? The WP:NARTIST said the subject was notable if their art was showcased in a large, well known entity and this subject is in the WTC.
 * If you have new information that the reviewer did not consider, you need to approach them with that information. 331dot (talk) 21:57, 11 July 2021 (UTC)