Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2021 July 19

= July 19 =

02:50:23, 19 July 2021 review of submission by ClearPill11
ClearPill11 (talk) 02:50, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Good afternoon. I'm not sure where to go with this but I'm wondering about the page I created -- Citizen Free Press. Someone is constantly editing it and taking out sources I put into the originally approved page. They are also making biased claims against the website without any evidence of their claims.

What can I do? Thanks
 * You might want the more general Help Desk, but it's okay to be here. I have blocked the IP editor from that article for edit warring.  Keep in mind that this is not a judgement about the merits of their claims specifically, but the fact that they were edit warring to keep unsourced claims in the article. Content disputes should be discussed to reach a WP:CONSENSUS. 331dot (talk) 07:33, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

06:48:25, 19 July 2021 review of submission by Anne Louise Thompson
Hello and thank you to Dan Arndt for his editing of my first solo article re artist Mary E Livingston. Will this article go online OR, as a Start article, is it deemed incomplete?

Secondly, I attended a Wiki edits workshop at the Womens Art Register, Richmond, Melbourne, Australia at which I posted an article. Since then, I've made more than 10 edits which Wikipedia acknowledged. Does this mean I can publish future new articles without asking for review? Best wishes Anne Anne Louise Thompson (talk) 06:48, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Mary Elizabeth Livingston is online in the fact that it can be found by everyone with Wikipedia's internal search. As far as I can tell, it should also be indexed by Google rather soon (but they sometimes take a while). Regarding your second question, yes, you can theoretically do so. Wether you should is a different question, and its a question I cannot answer for you. If you feel that you have enough experience with creating Articles that a new article you cresat in mainpsace isn't immedately subject to one of Wikipedia's deletion proccesses, you can certainly skip the review and either create the article directly in mainspace (not recommmended expect for very very experienced editors) or create a draft as before and then move it to mainspace. Victor Schmidt (talk) 08:03, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Request on 07:33:10, 19 July 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by AwesomeAubergine
This is my very first time submitting. I am trying to understand why 2 paragraphs - Background & History were completely deleted as well as part of the Intro. There is a Reference which was invoked. My draft is titled Girmit Global Museum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Girmit_Global_Museum) Appreciate help as would not like the page deleted - how long do I have before you debate rejected pages? Thank you.

AwesomeAubergine (talk) 07:33, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * we can't host copyright violations, more about that on your talkpage in a second. Victor Schmidt (talk) 07:53, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

08:27:33, 19 July 2021 review of submission by 129.12.34.45
129.12.34.45 (talk) 08:27, 19 July 2021 (UTC) My first attempt at writing an article was rejected for the reasons given below.

"This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people)."

However, I referenced four published books and two articles in national newspapers, among other sources. In most of these books, there is a lot more than a passing metnion of the subject.

So my question is - how many additional sources do I need to add for the article to be accepted?
 * If you are the creator of the draft, remember to log in before posting. You have cited the specific points in the draft, but Wikipedia articles must do more than merely tell about a person and their accomplishments; they must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a person, showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person, or in this case, the more specific definition of a notable entertainer. 331dot (talk) 08:32, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

11:56:01, 19 July 2021 review of submission by Prashank321
Prashank321 (talk) 11:56, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Kindly please review the Draft:KGK Group page. I've added the citation and company references information can you please help me in making this content neutral as per the encyclopedia point of view to get published.
 * If you are associated with this company, you must review conflict of interest and paid editing for information on required formal disclosures. 331dot (talk) 13:24, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

I am not associated with this company i searched this article and reserached its links for more information.

13:38:25, 19 July 2021 review of submission by 2600:1700:291:99C0:9CEF:422:14BF:53FF
Article was rejected but unsure why as I've provided relevant 3rd party sources and I based the submission off other similar posted wiki articles in the same industry. Please advise. 2600:1700:291:99C0:9CEF:422:14BF:53FF (talk) 13:38, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * The sources you provided are all press release-type articles, which does not establish notability. A Wikipedia article must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable company. Press releases, staff interviews, and announcements of routine business activities are not independent sources. Please read Your first article.
 * Please review other stuff exists. Other similar articles existing does not automatically mean yours can too. As this is a volunteer project where people do what they can when they can, it is possible for inappropriate articles to get by us. It could be that these other articles are also inappropriate and action has not been taken yet. If you would like to pitch in and help us manage the 6 million plus articles there are, please identify these other inappropriate articles for possible action, we can only address what we know about. 331dot (talk) 15:27, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

18:39:26, 19 July 2021 review of submission by 2001:8A0:F9D4:C800:FD3A:6C6E:4276:A683
2001:8A0:F9D4:C800:FD3A:6C6E:4276:A683 (talk) 18:39, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * You don't ask a question, but your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 20:19, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

21:07:48, 19 July 2021 review of draft by Crista2205
I am submitting an entry about a lawyer who I work for, Maria Herrera Mellado. It says that the person is not recognized enough, I dont understand why. We (the team) also got an email from an editor saying he/she would post it in enciclopedia form. I don't know if this person is verified.
 * You must read the paid editing policy and make the required formal disclosure. As noted by the reviewer, you have no independent reliable sources in the draft. A Wikipedia article must summarize what independent reliable sources have chosen on their own to say about her, showing how she meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable person. Wikipedia is not a place to merely tell about someone. You must set aside everything you know about your boss and all materials put out by her or her firm, and only summarize what independent reliable sources state. Please read Your first article. 331dot (talk) 21:34, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * If this editor has requested money from you to post it, I would be wary. 331dot (talk) 21:36, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * @331dot @Crista2205 It's a copyright violation anyway, apart form being a blatant advert and having no references Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 21:39, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

22:00:45, 19 July 2021 review of draft by Michiken1970
Good afternoon, several months ago I submitted an article about Giorgio Bertellini, a major US-based scholar of Italian film, and was given a rejection notice on July 3rd. The explanation given was that the article was not properly sourced. However, I included over a dozen footnotes that cited all relevant information and provided links to all of his publications. Could someone kindly explain to me what I would need to do to improve the citations/sourcing so that the article can be approved?

Thanks,

Ken Garner

Michiken1970 (talk) 22:00, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi . The sections about his career, affiliations (a strange section to have in a biography, not sure what it even means), and awards cite no sources whatsoever. The only section where sources are cited is the section that least needs them, his published works. Someone's published work is, in a manner of speaking, self-supporting. The title and copyright page of the work prove he wrote it, what the title is, who published it, and when, all of the bibliographic information listed for the work. So no inline citations are needed there. Also note that ASINs are highly undesirable identifiers compared to ISBNs. ASINs are proprietary and lead to sales pages. Wikipedia should not be used to advertise or market an author's work, or to promote a particular bookseller.


 * The sources you cite appear to be reviews, which are good sources of information for the biography, but they are normally cited in the main body, where his work should be described in prose, or in a section just before the list of published works where the reception of his views by other academics is discussed. See Johannes Kepler as an example. Finally, the first or second sentence of the lead should tell the reader why he is notable, what criteria of WP:PROF he meets. --Worldbruce (talk) 22:37, 20 July 2021 (UTC)