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= July 31 =

04:02:23, 31 July 2021 review of submission by Ayush111999
i want this article on wikipedia. if there is any error so plese advice me with example and refferances.

Ayush111999 (talk) 04:02, 31 July 2021 (UTC)


 * @Ayush111999 I want a Ferrari. I have my doubts that I am going to get one. Contact any of the reviewers who decline your draft and ask their advice Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 16:18, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

09:20:58, 31 July 2021 review of draft by Humming sapien
What are the ways to prove the authenticity of the sources? Humming sapien (talk) 09:20, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
 * That's not the issue. Interviews and Facebook do not establish notability because they are primary sources, from the person themselves. To establish notability, you must have independent reliable sources with significant coverage of the person- sources that have chosen on their own to write about the person in an in depth manner. An article summarizes what others say about the subject, not what it says about itself. If no sources choose to given this person significant coverage, they would not merit an article at this time. 331dot (talk) 11:04, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

11:10:35, 31 July 2021 review of draft by Veinnill
may I know which details need to add to improve my article. Veinnill (talk) 11:10, 31 July 2021 (UTC)


 * @Veinnill was the message left for you by the reviewer. Does that not tell you?  Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 16:15, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

11:25:31, 31 July 2021 review of submission by Hrajpal96
Can you help me by highlighting the content where there is a lack of credible and independent source for the notability of the person for which the article is being published. Since I have added all possible, credible and independent valid sources available online to highlight that the person in question is a real and meets the criteria for Wikipedia's publishing. Hrajpal96 (talk) 11:25, 31 July 2021 (UTC)


 * @Hrajpal96 if I could see any content you have created I would be able to give you an answer. We don't search blanked submissions Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 16:13, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

11:26:05, 31 July 2021 review of submission by Doctorray02
my article was first label speedy deletion and i recreate the article and also same thing so i went and recreate it in my sandbox for submission and my my submission is not accepted why is all this happening Doctorray02 (talk) 11:26, 31 July 2021 (UTC)


 * @Doctorray02 Every single attempt has been deleted as an advert. That ought to give you the answer you seek. We do not do advertising Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 16:11, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

14:32:12, 31 July 2021 review of submission by 188.76.127.47
Hello, I am Andrés, and I am from Barañain. I have read Nicolás many times on the internet, and I decided to create this Wikipedia article in order to help the newspapers who write about Nicolás to understand his background. I think it's necessary, and also important. I don't understand how can Nico be judged without relevance if he has convinced 3000 people in Navarre for some initiatives, and Government of Navarre president María Chivite has been supporting all his initiatives? Please, consider.--188.76.127.47 (talk) 14:32, 31 July 2021 (UTC) 188.76.127.47 (talk) 14:32, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

15:56:21, 31 July 2021 review of submission by BeatriceBevania
I have been editing a new article on the topic of intimate partners abuse worldwide. Yet, my submission has been declined many times due to 'insufficient content for the article to be a new article'. They have referred me to merge it with the 'Domestic VIolence' article. However, after consideration, I found our point of view and perspective of domestic violence are different, and it is difficult and awkward to merge them together when the focus of our articles were different. Is there any ways for me to improve my draft and could be accepted to be posted up in the Wikipedia community? BeatriceBevania (talk) 15:56, 31 July 2021 (UTC)


 * @BeatriceBevania in general one finds that, when multiple people give the same advice, and you disagree, that you are marching to a different drummer. Unsurprisingly, a reviewer has lost patience with your refusal to take advice and rejected your draft.
 * Difficult and Awkward are not reasons not to take the oft offered advice. They are a challenge. I suggest you rise to that challenge.
 * Wikipedia articles should have absolutely zero point of view, they must be flat, neutral, factual, and record that which is said in independent secondary reliable source es that are independent of the topic. If you have a poinyt of view you may not push it here.
 * There is no "our article" concept. See Ownership of content Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 16:06, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

15:58:16, 31 July 2021 review of draft by Maiabaia123!
sisi (talk) 15:58, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Hello, I have difficulties to understand why the draft is rejected - there is a request to add certain references to the Biography and to Fellowships and Memberships sections - but don't see from where I can provide more references to these sections... the draft title is Ruxandra Botez - I checked other drafts and they do not have references for such sections. I only added references from the literature.

your draft has not been rejected. It has been pushed back to you for further work, with a full ratioonale. Fiddle Timtrent Faddle Talk to me 16:09, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

16:06:03, 31 July 2021 review of submission by BeatriceBevania
I have been editing a new article on the topic of intimate partners abuse worldwide. Yet, my submission has been declined many times due to 'insufficient content for the article to be a new article'. They have referred me to merge it with the 'Domestic VIolence' article. However, after consideration, I found our point of view and perspective of domestic violence are different, and it is difficult and awkward to merge them together when the focus of our articles were different. I hope this page could be created to build up some global awareness of intimate partner violence within the community. Is there any ways for me to improve my draft and could be accepted to be posted up in the Wikipedia community? BeatriceBevania (talk) 16:06, 31 July 2021 (UTC)


 * @BeatriceBevania please do not ask the same question twice. The answer is up there ^^^^
 * Wikipedia is not a pulpit for your views, however laudable Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 16:08, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Request on 16:23:15, 31 July 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Rillington
The article about television channel Sky Max has been rejected twice, and on the same grounds despite me adding three more references - two are independent references and the third is from the official Sky press release which provides full details about the channel. I will be adding a further independent reference.

Given that many articles on Wikipedia have far fewer independent references than the number on this article, I am curious to know just how many more references are going to be needed for this article to be added to Wikipedia.

Any help would be appreciated. Rillington (talk) 16:16, 31 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Clearly press releases are not independent and have zero value in supporting any notability. Theroadislong (talk) 16:26, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I realise that but they do provide a good source of information about the subject and I shall be adding at least one more independent reference. Rillington (talk) 16:29, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
 * They are NOT a good source of information, they are a primary source, so of very little use. Theroadislong (talk) 16:32, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
 * But how many more references from non-primary sources are likely to be required until the article is deemed good enough ton be removed from draft? As I say, I know of at least one further independent reference. Rillington
 * I've now added two more independent references, one replaces a primary source. Surely this is sufficient? Rillington (talk) 12:28, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * , I think you should wait until the channel actually starts. I suspect it's quite likely to generate some independent press coverage. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:31, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Good point but in truth, it is likely to actually launch with little coverage as most of the coverage of channel launches other than clips of the actual launch posted on sites such as YouTube will come from when the channel is announced. Rillington (talk) 16:40, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
 * There is NORUSH. Theroadislong (talk) 17:14, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
 * True, but there's nothing wrong with continuing to make further improvements. Rillington (talk) 12:28, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * We're not interested in the up-and-coming; it must have already arrived and outlets not connected to the subject must have written about it at length in order for us to even consider having an article. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 06:50, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
 * There are always plenty of articles on Wikipedia about forthcoming events. Rillington (talk) 12:28, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

16:55:28, 31 July 2021 review of submission by Aria Moayerian
Hi there,

First of all let me thank you for your time to review my Draft "Jalaledin Moayerian" and sorry if it appears contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia which was unintentional. As you know this is my first article and your advices would be helpful for me to know the reason of rejection of this submission.

Meanwhile, it would be appreciated if you could answer my questions below to improve my knowledge about Wikipedia articles to avoid similar mistakes in the future.

1. I have been advised to blow up and start over my draft. Could you please let me know how I can blow up the existing draft.

2. Please let me know which phrases / sentences of my draft are contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia to be deleted/amended in the next revision.

3. I have been considered as a close connection with this subject due to my surname. Is it permitted by Wikipedia if I create another account 'with an unknown username' and submit this draft to avoid the conflict of interest which was mentioned in the note provided by the reviewer.

Your anticipated attention is highly appreciated. Best regards, Aria Moayerian (talk) 16:55, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
 * , your submission was rejected, meaning it cannot be resubmitted. Your submission wasn’t found to be notable and was being resubmitted without improvement.
 * You can ‘blow up’ the draft by tagging it with template:Db-g7 before recreating it. Eternal Shadow   Talk  21:56, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
 * You can ‘blow up’ the draft by tagging it with template:Db-g7 before recreating it. Eternal Shadow   Talk  21:56, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

@ and @ Thanks a lot for your advices. For sure I won't create another account and it was just a question. Regarding my connection with the topic; Jalal Moayerian ,the Makeup Artist, is my uncle who lives in Tehran-Iran and I am an Engineer, live in Canada and here is my Linkein profile for your reference: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aria-moayerian-p-eng-39343913/ So, there is not any conflict of Interest in between. Last year, I was informed in the news that Jalal got COVID-19 and I followed his health status by searching in the internet and I noticed there is not any article in Wikipedia about him though he is a very well known person in Iran as makeup artist with 50 years good achievement in this field. Since Wikipedia is a free encyclopedia and welcomes every user to add value to that, I decided to write an article about him. I just tried to gather related reliable sources and did my best to summarize the published news and translate it to English from Farsi. Having said that, I am a simple user same as others and there is not any conflict of interest. At the end, I really appreciate for your time to help me and as per, I start writing another article about Jalaledin Moayerian with consideration of this essay. Thanks! Aria Moayerian (talk) 15:39, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Please do not create a new account. That would not remove the conflict of interest, and attempting to conceal it would make you look very bad. And it wouldn't work since you just proposed doing so; any other account that recreates the draft would risk being blocked as a sockpuppet. If you have a conflict of interest, we want you to be open about it. Submitting drafts is the proper way for you to edit. 331dot (talk) 22:37, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
 * @Aria Moayerian Reading and following this essay, which is one of many on article creation, will help you.
 * Set aside 100% of what you know about them. Write only what you find in the references.
 * Creating a new account and editing from it will lead to an investigation for sockpuppetry and will likely remove your editing privileges (0.95 probability) Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 09:23, 1 August 2021 (UTC)