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= June 2 =

01:32:49, 2 June 2021 review of draft by 107.146.244.150
107.146.244.150 (talk) 01:32, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

01:58:00, 2 June 2021 review of submission by Dharshan Vharma
Dharshan Vharma (talk) 01:58, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * the article was rejected because simply being a junior level racer is not considered to be notable enough to warrant a Wikipedia article. You're draft has been rejected and will not be considered further. Wikipedia is not the place to write about yourself. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 05:16, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

05:20:52, 2 June 2021 review of submission by Peaceandlove243
Hello, I am trying to resubmit my article. I have proposed to split the "Harvard International Relations Council" article in two.

Peaceandlove243 (talk) 05:20, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * This draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 08:43, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

06:45:04, 2 June 2021 review of submission by Malappa.c
Malappa.c (talk) 06:45, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell the world about themselves or post their resume; that's what social media is for. 331dot (talk) 08:44, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

13:25:48, 2 June 2021 review of submission by Lucasbordure
It is said that my submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. How to fix this problem?

Lucasbordure (talk) 13:25, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * You have zero reliable independent sources and no indication whatsoever that they meet any of the criteria at WP:NARTIST. Had I reviewed it, I would have declined too. Theroadislong (talk) 13:52, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

14:22:58, 2 June 2021 review of draft by WeWo-IASS
Hello! I had submitted several changes in September 2020 to this draft about Mark G. Lawrence after it had been declined end of November 2019 and have not heard back anything since then - it has been almost 10 months since then. It is also not clear to me if the draft has officially been retrieved after its deletion in June 2020. Could you please let me know what the status of this article draft is (i.e. deleted, in re-review, etc.)? Thank you!

WeWo-IASS (talk) 14:22, 2 June 2021 (UTC)


 * You resubmitted Draft:Mark G. Lawrence on 18 March 2021 in this edit. It's in the pool to be reviewed. The current backlog is 5+ months, so you can anticipate a review by between mid-August and mid-September. --Worldbruce (talk) 00:03, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

19:21:12, 2 June 2021 review of draft by Zayasux
Hello, I need help deleting a draft page. A while ago under the account Zisawhre (to which i dont have the password to anymore nor do i know what email i used) I made the Current Year (Band) draft, and I want it deleted.

Zayasux (talk) 19:21, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * does not have set an email adress, or it wasn't confirmed (this account doesn't have a confirmed email adress either), so you will not be able to get a new password. Per WP:SOCKLEGIT, please indicate your previous account on your userpage. may be used for that. As for deletion, I would simply let the draft untouched, as drafts which haven't been edited are subject to speedy deletion. Maybe one of the admin folks here can also speed that up, but I am not sure. Victor Schmidt (talk) 20:03, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

19:43:53, 2 June 2021 review of submission by WikiCleanerMan
I am requesting this re-review of this draft about the relations between South Ossetia and the United States for the reason it appears from the last AfD, that those who voted to either delete or redirect the article didn't either take my keep vote into consideration, where I outlined countries that don't formally recognize each other and yet there exists articles about their lack of relations. For example, North Korea–United States relations, Armenia–Turkey relations, Armenia–Azerbaijan relations, Bhutan–United States relations, and Israel's lack of relations with Arab and Muslim majority countries such as Algeria, Tunisia, Afghanistan to name a few. Wouldn't some of these articles be regarded as having a lack of notability particularly the ones concerning Israel? And the United States' lack of relations with Bhutan still exists and yet that article isn't considered suffering from a lack of notability. There is a significant matter regarding both nations in where under federal law of the United States outlaws American aid to South Ossetia. In my view, this counts as notable, since United States foreign relations legislation has a powerful effect on global affairs. I think South Ossetia is not given a second look because it seems all that matters is to stuff the International recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia with this kind of information when clearly it deserves to be on its own page. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:43, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:43, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * The argument that other articles exist is a nonstarter here. You're more than welcome to take the other articles to AFD or request a deletion review for this one. I can't say which option has more chances, but I have a feeling neither has particularely big chances. Victor Schmidt (talk) 19:57, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Victor Schmidt, but my real concern is whether or not my draft is notable. I have laid it out that it is. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 20:05, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I do a check on Notability somewhen tomorrow, my time on this evening is somewhat limited. Maybe wants to comment in the meantime. Victor Schmidt (talk) 20:09, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * He was the one who declined my draft. I doubt his mind has changed recently. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 20:12, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * It is true that I have not changed my mind in the past month. I am willing to try to address some of the arguments of User:WikiCleanerMan.


 * 1. Diplomatic relations between two countries is in general a sufficient condition for notability.  It is not the only sufficient condition.  One or another condition was met in the cases listed by WCM.  No other sufficient condition exists for the US and South Ossetia.
 * 2. The "powerful influence" of the United States on global affairs must be taken into account.  But does that mean that there should be an article about US relations with every limited-recognition country?  I don't think so.
 * 3. If an article was deleted very recently, a draft is essentially asking the reviewer to ignore the deletion.  I won't ignore a deletion.  There are cases where the situation may change after the deletion.  This mostly happens with BLPs.  I don't think that the status of South Ossetia has changed in the past month.
 * 4. If a reviewer were to accept the draft, it would likely be deleted again, either by G4 or by another AFD.  Reviewers don't want to accept an article that will probably be deleted.
 * 5. Some other editors and I have said that DRV is an option.  You will at least be given a hearing there.
 * 6. WikiCleanerMan is auto-confirmed, and can move the draft into article space, but, if so, they risk either a G4 or another AFD.
 * There may be no "right" answer. I think that the "least wrong" answer now may be Deletion Review.  Robert McClenon (talk) 03:38, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
 * , you accepted by Abkhazia and Somaliland articles. Those limited recognized states' relations with the U.S. are significant. I do intend to create a few more because again when it's the United States it is significant because of the United States' dominance as a global power. My Abkhazia article also contains a lot of the same information in the South Ossetia draft because their relations with the U.S. intersect. I don't see why my Abkhazia article has notability and yet South Ossetia doesn't qualify under the same standard? --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:10, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
 * User:WikiCleanerMan - I did not accept Abkhazia–United States relations. Another reviewer did.  Please be accurate, and do not try to confuse the review process any more than it already is confused.  Robert McClenon (talk) 18:52, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I did accept Somaliland–United States relations because I was undoing a non-consensus cutdown by an editor who has since been banned. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:52, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I am finished discussing here. If you want to continue discussing, there are various options, but the best place would be Deletion Review.  Robert McClenon (talk) 18:52, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

20:02:32, 2 June 2021 review of draft by 110.37.226.94
Hi! I hope you doing well. I was trying to create Muhammad Saad Uddin but wikipedia is not accepting this, i don't know why. Kindly can you tell me why my wikipedia age is not acceptable and what exactly i need to change in my wikipedia page?

110.37.226.94 (talk) 20:02, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I am not particularely impressed by the reliability of the sources used in the draft. Crunchbase is unreliable, so is Goodreads. The Amazon sources aren't particularely reliable either. Victor Schmidt (talk) 20:13, 2 June 2021 (UTC)