Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2021 March 13

= March 13 =

04:43:26, 13 March 2021 review of draft by Mk012345
Mk012345 (talk) 04:43, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , you didn't asked a question. Do you have any? I had a look at Draft:BARFT-20. It has only one sources. Note that reliable sources are needed to verify the information. Drafts without the sources are likely to get declined. I suggest you to read WP:YFA, WP:IC, WP:REFB, and WP:CITE before creating an article. – Kammill  ⟨talk⟩ 04:49, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

04:55:33, 13 March 2021 review of draft by Randomalphanumericstring
Hi, I wrote and submitted an article ("Pius Wars") for review. Editor "Noah" left a comment yesterday (3/11/21) saying the article didn't look finished but when it was finished he would probably accept it. I finished it today and left a note on the article's talk page saying that it was finished, but I can't figure out how to resubmit, if necessary. Talk page "Noah" looks very complicated and I'm not sure if I should contact him there to tell him the article is now finished, or what. Please advise. Thanks.

Randomalphanumericstring (talk) 04:55, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. The draft you are talking about is already submitted for review. You may like to ping and ask them if they will review it. Hope they will respond soon. – Kammill  ⟨talk⟩  05:09, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

16:54:58, 13 March 2021 review of draft by Taani1990
Taani1990 (talk) 16:54, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

16:56:03, 13 March 2021 review of draft by Taani1990
Taani1990 (talk) 16:56, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * This has been deleted 9 times including twice at WP:AFD see Articles for deletion/Krishna Ballesh (2nd nomination) it's probably time to give up. Theroadislong (talk) 18:01, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I have rejected the draft a minute ago. CommanderWaterford (talk) 19:24, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Request on 17:00:12, 13 March 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Editor1141528
I submitted an article on the 'Emerging Markets Institute' for review, but it was rejected because there's a similar article in submission. That article has been under review for 2+ years. Could you please delete that article's submission, and consider this one by any chance? Thank you! Editor1141528 (talk) 17:00, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Help With Referencing
Hey! Tried creating a page of a school but draft was rejected due to less citations can i be recommended the examples of sources that could be used as citations. Can News Articles Be used as references?. please inform as it woulld be really helpful. Thanks! 101.0.41.115 (talk) 17:43, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * The answers to all of those questions can you find if you follow the links in the reviewers comment when they declined it. Have further a look at WP:YFA, of help might also Help:Referencing for beginners and WP:RS. CommanderWaterford (talk) 19:22, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

18:03:29, 13 March 2021 review of submission by Clickzenis
Clickzenis (talk) 18:03, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Your draft was rejected and tagged for deletion, it is just an advertisement and has no place in an encyclopedia. Theroadislong (talk) 18:06, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Request on 20:47:28, 13 March 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Mohammed Foyzur Rahman Khan
Mohammed Foyzur Rahman Khan (talk) 20:47, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , you do not ask any question but your draft was rejected and will be deleted, I left you a whole bunch of explanations why. CommanderWaterford (talk) 20:51, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

22:19:46, 13 March 2021 review of submission by LeaHoz
Hello Scope_Creep and other Reviewers, I attended Ms. Avrish's exhibit years ago and when I looked her up on Wikipedia, all I could find was an entry about a modeling contest ~20 years ago. I attempted to substantiate every. single. claim with publicly sourced articles and entries like national articles from museums, government organizations and media organizations as recommended by Wikipedia, so to call it an "utter mess" is unfair and unreasonable. If you think that some of the comments and statements are not substantiated, isn't okay for you to delete or edit them? It took me a lot of time to write this entry of an unrepresented group of leaders (women, arts, design, Middle East, history, museum, art) on Wikipedia. Your dismissal, I hope, will be reconsidered. I am not being paid for this entry. LeaHoz (talk) 22:19, 13 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi . The draft is an utter mess, although that's not a particularly constructive comment. It is not the end of the world, either. Let's examine a few random sources to understand the range of problems:
 * 1 is a reliable primary source for her having curated an exhibit. When you place an inline citation in the middle of a sentence, you're implying that the source supports the content from the last citation up to that point. In this case, that she was born December 1, 1979, and is an Israel-based multi-disciplinary artist, designer, and curator. The source only supports that she curated an exhibit.
 * The first paragraph goes on to say she's a researcher, an academic lecturer, a media lecturer, a businessperson, and a PhD student. The first paragraph of a biography should state the person's noteworthy occupations or activities. For someone significant enough to be in an encyclopedia, that number typically maxes out at about three. For a true polymath, it might be five. To list eight gives the impression that you're trying to promote her, or you haven't examined her life carefully enough to identify what is important, or she's tried many different things without making her mark at anything. Instead of primary sources written by her, the draft needs independent secondary sources written about her.
 * 6 Makor Rishon is a reliable source for her being a researcher who has written a master's thesis that dealt with Jewish history in the Arab world. Anyone who has written a master's thesis is by definition a researcher, however, so it isn't clear how useful that label is. It only quotes her briefly, it is not significant coverage of her, so it doesn't help establish notability. Like #1, it doesn't support the other occupations/activities listed since the last group of citations.
 * There are other sources listed with it, but all are references to YouTube, which is a generally unreliable source. There's rarely a sound reason to cite something on YouTube. Also, you've uploaded a crop of the photo that appears in this newspaper article. That's okay if you are the photographer, but if you aren't, or didn't mean to disclose your identity, then we have a problem.
 * 9 is a dead link. There are techniques for repairing a dead link, but before you do so, ask yourself whether pageantopolis.com is a reliable source. It sounds like the Journal of 100% Reliable Factual Information. If you aren't sure, ask for an opinion at the Reliable sources/Noticeboard.
 * 10 is a talent agency that represents Avrish. The eight videos linked on their page are primary sources that support that she appeared in eight commercials or programs. The agency has a financial interest in promoting her, so it isn't an independent source, and does nothing to help establish notability. The bulk of any draft should be based on independent, reliable, secondary sources.
 * 20 is a list of 1500+ museum exhibits, and is cited for the statement, "The desert buggy was later featured in a major exhibition". There are no relevant hits on the page for "desert", "buggy", or "Avrish", so how does it support the text?
 * 31 I'm not sure xnet.ynet.co.il is a reliable source, but in any case it doesn't mention Avrish, so how does it support the statement, "In 2002, Avrish created a photo exhibition of 32 Israeli women athletic champions titled “It’s not just a sport” that was featured the Ramat Gan Museum of Art"?
 * It doesn't appear that the draft can be fixed by a little editing. If you decide to pursue the topic, begin again from scratch. Start by identifying WP:THREE sources that are independent, reliable, secondary sources that contain significant coverage of her. If you can't write an acceptable draft from three such sources, the topic is probably hopeless. --Worldbruce (talk) 20:13, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Request on 22:50:49, 13 March 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Hussaini pasha
Hussaini pasha (talk) 22:50, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

22:55:23, 13 March 2021 review of submission by Hussaini pasha
Hussaini pasha (talk) 22:55, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * You do not ask any question but your draft has been rejected and will be deleted soon. CommanderWaterford (talk) 23:29, 13 March 2021 (UTC)