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= May 20 =

01:01:23, 20 May 2021 review of submission by Seantseng918
Hello, the reason my page was moved to draftspace was because it seemed too promotional and the tone was off. What do you suggest or advise to make this more neutral?

Note: I have deleted some paragraphs because the Chinese Wikipedia page, which I based this from, has no sources/reference, and other search results are copied from that page or have little information about what I'm trying to write.

Thanks Seantseng918 (talk) 01:01, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Request on 06:08:43, 20 May 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Virjournal
The draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Divya_Tusnial has received comments on Notability under Biographies of Living Persons. There's a very similar article already published on Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_Chow) which uses similar kinds of references. Could the editors help in understanding this issue. Is the referencing wrongly used or does it not qualify at all? Thank you.

Virjournal (talk) 06:08, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Please see other stuff exists. Other similar articles existing does not automatically mean that yours can too.  It could be that those other articles are inappropriate.  As this is a volunteer project where people do what they can when they can, it is possible for inappropriate articles to go undetected, even for years.  We can only address what we know about.  The other article you cite has the same problems as your draft, so I've marked it for attention.
 * Your draft reads as resume, just telling about the person and what they do. Wikipedia articles must do more, they must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a person, showing how they meet Wikipedia's special definition of notability.  Please see Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 08:44, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

06:57:08, 20 May 2021 review of draft by Ngangaesther
Ngangaesther (talk) 06:57, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello kindly l want to create another article in sandbox but am unable to move above article from sand box Ngangaesther (talk) 06:57, 20 May 2021 (UTC) regard esther
 * The draft you linked to isn't in your sandbox; you may use Articles for Creation to create a new draft with a different title. You may also create multiple sandboxes, such as User:Ngangaesther/sandbox 2. 331dot (talk) 08:41, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

09:09:57, 20 May 2021 review of submission by Mr.VaiBH
Let's not try to sugar things and get straight.

Wikipedia guidelines are well documented, but junk. They are good but not human friendly.

I just wanted to make a Wikipedia page for "Everybodywiki", because I think they deserve it. It's notable, popular and widely used. It's not included in any illegal issues and I think that's enough to get an approved Wikipedia article.

I'm not asking to approve Everybodywiki. I am here to ask for help to please explain me the guidelines in bit shorter, and human friendly. Please provide me some link (if any) where I can find all guidelines in brief. I really appreciate the hard work behind Wikipedia, as we know the domain is .org not .com

Thank You

Mr.VaiBH (talk) 09:09, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Your draft just tells about the existence of EverybodyWiki. Wikipedia articles must do more, they must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a website, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable website. If no independent reliable sources give that website significant coverage, it would not merit an article at this time regardless of how popular it is. Please see Your First Article.  If you haven't, you may also want to use the new user tutorial to learn more about Wikipedia. 331dot (talk) 09:13, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

09:52:01, 20 May 2021 review of submission by Arav tt10
Arav tt10 (talk) 09:52, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
 * You don't ask a question, but the draft was blatant promotion. Wikipedia is not a place to post resumes or just tell about someone. 331dot (talk) 10:14, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

11:30:28, 20 May 2021 review of submission by Barallaxman
Barallaxman (talk) 11:30, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
 * You don't ask a question, but Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell the world about themselves. That's what social media is for. 331dot (talk) 12:21, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

13:01:58, 20 May 2021 review of draft by Mfminteractive
Mfminteractive (talk) 13:01, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
 * You don't ask a question. If you represent the subject, please review conflict of interest and paid editing for information on required disclosures.  You should also change your username to be more individualistic, please go to Special:GlobalRenameRequest to do so. 331dot (talk) 13:04, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Request on 14:19:10, 20 May 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Hondo2160
Hello, I have recently received word that my submission for Smooth-On, Inc. was denied again. I have been editing and working with editors for over 1 year, and am confused as to why some other submissions which provide less content than mine. For example, Chem-Dry, OrangeSoda and Andy's Frozen Custard. Can someone assist with what is directly missing from my submission? Thank you for any help you can provide.

Hondo2160 (talk) 14:19, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I've fixed your links to proper internal links, the whole web address is not necessary. Please read other stuff exists. Other similar articles existing does not automatically mean that yours can too.  It could be that those other articles are inappropriate. It is possible for inappropriate articles to go undetected, even for years. We can only address what we know about. For example, the ChemDry article is tagged as problematic.
 * Your draft just tells about the company and what it does. Wikipedia articles must do more, they must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a company, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable company.  Press releases, announcements of routine business activities(like acquiring a competitor or commencing operations), staff interviews, and brief mentions do not establish notability.  Please see Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 14:55, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

14:43:48, 20 May 2021 review of submission by Algocu
Decision to reject this article appears to be arbitrary, and is possibly capricious and biased. Appeal is requested.

algocu (talk) 14:43, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The draft was declined, not rejected. Rejection would mean that it would not be considered again.  Please review the advice given by the reviewer before further edits or resubmission. Please read Your First Article. Your draft must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about this organization, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable organization. If you are associated with this company, please review conflict of interest and paid editing. 331dot (talk) 14:58, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

18:40:47, 20 May 2021 review of draft by Seantseng918
Ignore my other post, I didn't realize that it was review of submission instead of review of draft.

Hello, the reason my page was moved to draftspace was because it seemed too promotional and the tone was off. What do you suggest or advise to make this more neutral?

Note: I have deleted some paragraphs because the Chinese Wikipedia page, which I based this from, has no sources/reference, and other search results are copied from that page or have little information about what I'm trying to write.

Thanks Seantseng918 (talk) 18:40, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

19:28:22, 20 May 2021 review of submission by Shitansh
Similar self-publishing houses such as Notion Press has its own wikipedia pages. This is a registered company in India and growing fast. It is ranked among the top 10 self-publishing companies in India. A search on google reveals its importance. It is a worthy inclusion in wikipedia. So, I request you to kindly consider my submission again. shitansh sinha 19:28, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

21:28:51, 20 May 2021 review of draft by GrahamEmel
Hello, I am reaching out to ask about a recent page I am trying to edit. I have been a volunteer worker with an organization, Sahiyo, for the past semester. They had asked me to update their Wikipedia page, because it was severely limited. I had drafted an at-length page trying to capture aspects about their page, such as their mission, research conducted, and so on. I had submitted a revision to the Wikipedia page, which was taken down. I then submitted a draft to the sandbox editors, who told to, rather than create a whole new 'Sahiyo' page, edit it instead. I was wondering if I could receive help on how to publish the changes to the organization's Wikipedia. Any help would be appreciated!

Thank you!

GrahamEmel (talk) 21:28, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Please review conflict of interest for information on a formal disclosure you should make. Please understand that Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about an organization, not what it wants to say about itself. Much of what you attempted to add was primary sources, which are only acceptable in limited circumstances. As you have a conflict of interest, you should not directly edit about your organization, but you may make formal edit requests on the article talk page, detailing changes you feel are needed. Note that it is not the organization's "Wikipedia page", but a Wikipedia article about your organization. The organization has no special rights to it, see WP:OWN. 331dot (talk) 21:38, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

21:51:17, 20 May 2021 review of draft by Unexpectedlydian
I would like to delete this draft and not submit for a review via AFC. Since beginning the draft, I have discovered that the subject of this article does not want a WikiPedia page and I would like to delete my draft out of respect. Please let me know if it is possible to do this, and what steps I can take. Unexpectedlydian (talk) 21:51, 20 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi . If you add the code  to the top of the draft, it will be speedily deleted, although speedy is a relative term. --Worldbruce (talk) 22:41, 20 May 2021 (UTC)