Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2021 November 2

= November 2 =

02:04:31, 2 November 2021 review of submission by MichaelT1956
what di need to make my article wiki approved and published? The article is on a note worthy person MichaelT1956 (talk) 02:04, 2 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Aside from being a mess as far as grammar and punctuation, there is nothing whatsoever to even begin to hint that this person is in any way notable. This planet is a-crawl with people with delusions of "notability" because they put up a couple of TikToks and call themselves "influencers" (the prime a**hole word now, exceeding "artisanal" and even "curated"). -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  03:18, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Your references are grossly malformed and generally missing the bibliographical information and/or URLs required to actually look them up. The three URLs present are Wikipedia and two press releases. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 23:37, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

10:50:08, 2 November 2021 review of submission by 197.98.201.78
How can I report a wiki page? The person has written it themselves and is not notable. It shouldn't be on wikipedia.

I didn't receive a response. How can I report a wiki page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.98.201.89 (talk) 10:21, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

197.98.201.78 (talk) 10:50, 2 November 2021 (UTC)


 * If the article is pure advertising/promotion, you can tag it for speedy deletion by adding to the top of the page.  Otherwise you can propose deletion with  but the article creator is allowed to remove that template if they disagree with your reasoning. An alternative method, which doesn't let them remove the template, is a little more involved and is described at WP:AFDHOWTO. WaggersTALK  10:33, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

11:07:18, 2 November 2021 review of draft by ThyWhy
I would like to enquire about my article. All the sources used are reliable and independent. I did include the company’s own website as one of the 19 in total sources. I researched other similar articles/companies and saw that they also use either the company website, 3rd party sources or a combination. So why is mine excluded but the others approved?

Examples of similar articles approved, per type of sources:

Similar Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Society_of_Clinical_Oncology

Less sources and not as independent as the one’s I’ve used: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medisafe_International https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huma_(company)

Only uses 2 references, has a few issues, but it is published(!): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datacube_Inc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GetFEM%2B%2B

Sources used in my article:

Scientific Journal articles (Journal of Clinical Oncology, Annals of Oncology)

Independent website articles/intervews - European Society For Medical Oncology website oncologypro.esmo.org - Springer magazine - Other industry websites: www.oncorelief.eu, MIT Technology Review,  www.pwc.co.uk, www.masschallenge.org (also cited with other articles on Wikipedia)

Company’s own website (as seen referenced in other Wikipedia articles too, for some additional information not references elsewhere)

All the sources, other than the company website, are independent and are being used similarly in other published Wikipedia articles.

So, what can I change for it to get approved?

ThyWhy (talk) 11:07, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
 * That an article exists does not mean that it was approved by anyone. Only new accounts and IP users are not allowed to directly create articles. It is possible, though inadvisable, to create articles without going through this process. Only experienced editors should do that.. The article you cite is already tagged as problematic.
 * Your draft just tells about the company and what it does. Wikipedia articles must do more, they must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable company. Brief mentions, press releases, interviews, announcements of routine business activities, and other primary sources do not establish notability.
 * To link to another Wikipedia article or page, you may simply place the title of the page in double brackets like this Page name here, the whole URL is unnecessary. 331dot (talk) 13:02, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
 * To succeed, you need to set aside everything you know about your company, all materials it puts out, and only write based on the content of independent sources. That is usually very difficult for those in your position to do. 331dot (talk) 13:05, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

15:29:16, 2 November 2021 review of draft by Alien 4791
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ettore_Salati#References

I edited references on this draft. After publishing, I was told that some links land to blogs and it could be a problem. But many music reviewer, fanzine, music magazines are hosted out there, so I think it should be acceptable. These references are solely international album reviews, one example each release

Alien 4791 (talk) 15:29, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

15:53:11, 2 November 2021 review of submission by 2409:4042:E89:42E1:1651:7E9F:CD88:A0CC
2409:4042:E89:42E1:1651:7E9F:CD88:A0CC (talk) 15:53, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
 * The results of a Google search are not reliable or notability-supporting sourcing; his own LinkedIn is not reliable or notability-supporting sourcing. You have already been told four times what you need to do: show evidence that he has media coverage, in reliable sources independent of his own self-published web presence, in the context of having achieved something significant. Bearcat (talk) 16:02, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

Request on 15:57:36, 2 November 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Radhihudijan
Thank you for reviewing my article, I got the article declined due to the reason that it looks like an advertisement. I got advice from other experienced editors in the live chat. but I still did not know what part makes it look like ads ... I extremely appreciate the help.

Thank you.

Radhihudijan (talk) 15:57, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
 * It is an ad because it just tells about the person. Wikipedia articles must do more, they must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the person, showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable creative professional.  Please see Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 07:25, 3 November 2021 (UTC)