Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2021 October 1

= October 1 =

01:25:29, 1 October 2021 review of submission by 2601:2C1:8880:5550:69BA:3E5F:9F10:2660
2601:2C1:8880:5550:69BA:3E5F:9F10:2660 (talk) 01:25, 1 October 2021 (UTC):
 * If you can't provide the draft link, we can't help you. The likelihood of an IP having the desired draft in its contribution history is extremely low. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 16:40, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

04:39:55, 1 October 2021 review of draft by Sutatatabunwa
My draft has been repeatedly declined on the basis that it does not meet the criteria for notability of music-related topics, but I have already provided sources proving that

1. the band in question has been the subject of or mentioned in multiple nation-wide published works that are reliable independent and not self-published, including books, newspaper and magazine articles

2. the band has had multiple albums in a national music chart (in this case, Japan's major music chart Oricon)

3. the band has released multiple albums from an important indie label (P-VINE, which has Wikipedia articles in both Japanese and English)

4. the band is internationally recognized as a prominent example of the Japanese shoegaze scene

5. the band has performed music for a notable work of media (in this case a theatrical performance featuring Rina Ikoma, who has Wikipedia articles in both Japanese and English)

6. the band has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio network (in this case TBS)

If meeting six out of the twelve criteria isn't enough, then what should I do?

Sutatatabunwa (talk) 04:39, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
 * As noted by reviewers, the sources that you provided are of poor quality or are not independent reliable sources. Even if the band technically meets the notability criteria, it still must receive significant coverage in independent reliable sources. 331dot (talk) 08:46, 1 October 2021 (UTC)


 * But The Japan Times is a national newspaper; Sound & Recording Magazine Guitar Magazine and Bass Magazine are both nationally available magazines; and Shoegazer Disc Guide is a nationally available secondary source (musical reference book), all of which are neither self-published nor self-penned by or affiliated with the band. You are asking for "published" "reliable" "secondary" sources that are "independent" from the subject and I am providing them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sutatatabunwa (talk • contribs) 11:16, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I was the editor who most recently declined this draft. I'd be happy to reconsider if you would provide me (here) with links to the two best secondary sources that have significantly covered this subject. Salimfadhley (talk) 00:12, 6 October 2021 (UTC)


 * A primary example of such sources is a disc review on Shoegazer Disc Guide Revised Edition which, being a book published in Japan, is not available online. Here is the publisher's site to prove that the book exists. The pages cited are specified in the reference section of the draft.

https://www.shinko-music.co.jp/item/pid0648528

Similarly, both Guitar Magazine and Sound & Recording Magazine are unavailable online, but here are the publisher's pages for each edition of the magazines. Scroll down and you can see that they have published content on For Tracy Hyde. https://www.rittor-music.co.jp/magazine/detail/3119111006 https://www.rittor-music.co.jp/magazine/detail/3119121005

And here is a review of For Tracy Hyde's live performance on TBS Radio posted on TBS Radio's official site. TBS Radio is a Japanese national radio station owned by TBS Television. https://www.tbsradio.jp/archives/?id=p-417746

This interview by The Japan Times is available online but was also printed on the actual newspaper. The Japan Times is Japan's most recognized English-language newspaper and is available nationwide. https://www.japantimes.co.jp/culture/2021/02/25/music/for-tracy-hyde-ethernity/

08:41:42, 1 October 2021 review of submission by Endrabcwizart
Hello The article I contributed, Sushma Adhikari, has been rejected for publication. I am asking for help from this help desk to publish this article. Please write down the areas that need improvement.

Endrabcwizart (talk) 08:41, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The reviewer left a message as to what needs improvement. 331dot (talk) 08:43, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

09:33:36, 1 October 2021 review of draft by Emfletch91
I have recently had my first article declined due to lack of referencing - I have since made improvements on this however I have two sources that I am unsure on how to reference. The articles in question are old newspaper articles and cannot be located online, yet contain information that I have referenced. Please can you advise how I would go about referencing these? Would I scan them on and use them as an image on the article? Thank you

Emfletch91 (talk) 09:33, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
 * You are allowed to cite offline sources - see Offline sources. Make sure to include at least newspaper name, release date (for periodically released newspapers), (page number,) article title and ideally article author. See for a template that can assist with creating a newspaper citation. Please do not scan and upload them to Wikipedia, as this can, depending on the aage of the newspaper, be a copyright violation. Just include all information required to find the article you cite in a library. Victor Schmidt (talk) 09:59, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I am concerned about some of the images, particularely File:Leigh Spinners Dance.jpg. You state that you are not the copyright holder (and probbably correctly so). Where can I find the evidence for the asserted CC-BY-SA 4.0 License? Victor Schmidt (talk) 10:13, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

10:20:48, 1 October 2021 review of submission by D2325292
D2325292 (talk) 10:20, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
 * You don't ask a question, but your draft has been rejected, which means it will not be considered again. Wikipedia is not a site like LinkedIn or other websites where you can post a personal profile. Here is some information about what makes a person notable, as Wikipedia defines notability. --bonadea contributions talk 12:47, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

10:50:26, 1 October 2021 review of submission by Sette-quattro
Hello, I've seen that the submission has not been accepted. The motivation states: Does not demonstrate WP:SIGCOV in indepedent reliable sources.

Is it a matter of number of sources? Or variety? Or not related to sources?

Please let me know how can I improve the article. Thank you!

All the best! --Sette-quattro (talk) 10:50, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Sette-quattro (talk) 10:50, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
 * We don't cite the subject or GitHub. The remaining citations are passing mentions that cannot help for notability a whit. The issue is thus that none of your sources are acceptable. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 16:42, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
 * re-signing for ping —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 16:47, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

10:52:43, 1 October 2021 review of draft by Gyan.Know
Hello. I submitted page on article for Global Esports. It was moved to Draft:Global Esports. According to me, the page has sufficient content and sources to be pass notability for WP. I am not able to understand what is wrong on the page. Please help. Thanking You.

Gyan.Know (talk) 10:52, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The "sources" seem to consist of recycled press releases, articles not about the company, and routine coverage from an obscure trade publication. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  15:06, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

18:07:17, 1 October 2021 review of submission by Pathum M Ranasinghe
Pathum M Ranasinghe (talk) 18:07, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
 * There is nothing in the draft to suggest that you are notable, sorry, most of us not notable enough for articles. Theroadislong (talk) 18:10, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
 * (ec) You don't ask a question, but your draft was rejected, meaning it will not be considered further. It is inadvisable to attempt to write about yourself, please read the autobiography policy.  We are interested in what independent reliable sources say about you, not what you want to say about yourself.  Please use social media to tell the world about yourself. 331dot (talk) 18:11, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I am sri lankan Musical artist — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pathum M Ranasinghe (talk • contribs)
 * I hope that you have a successful career, but you cannot use Wikipedia as a way to aid your career or enhance search results for you. Once you are shown with significant coverage in independent reliable sources, showing how you meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable musician, someone will eventually take note of your career and choose to write about you. Don't try to force the issue and go out and work on your career. Be advised that a Wikipedia article is not necessarily desirable. There are good reasons to not want one. 331dot (talk) 18:37, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

23:37:06, 1 October 2021 review of draft by Rio197
I added a couple of new (independent) references to this page today. Do they help boost enough notability for this topic to be approved for publishing?

Rio197 (talk) 23:37, 1 October 2021 (UTC)