Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2021 October 14

= October 14 =

03:27:24, 14 October 2021 review of submission by Normal rookie
I improve this Draft many times, later it got rejected many time. I hope reviewer can accept this Draft. Normal rookie (talk) 03:27, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

04:28:59, 14 October 2021 review of submission by Drjimbentley
Thank you Wikipedia and Volunteer's team to for educating me about article creation and publication. I have an issue, especially understanding the format of the article on Wikipedia. 1. I have recently published content about self-defence, but I rejected, due to "how-to" content. Actually, I need to know the actual template and formating of article publishment on the honourable Wikipedia platform.

I am very eager to be part of the Wikipedia volunteers and also very interested to create high-quality articles on Wikipedia. I am looking forward to a volunteer to help me; becoming a perfect and trusted volunteer of Wiki.

Thank you very much.

Warm regards,

Dr Jim Drjimbentley (talk) 04:28, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

05:07:39, 14 October 2021 review of submission by Ph03n1x77
Hello, I requested a review of this article because it's the first of a series of list articles I'd like to write, based on financial information provided by Forbes Magazine and Fortune Magazine.

The reviewer, Curbon7, felt it didn't meet notability and sourcing requirements. Of course, not an issue, that's what the review was for, but when I went over to their talk page to start a dialogue I didn't get a response. I noticed a couple of people didn't get a response, but then someone who commented more recently got an answer. So I'm not sure what's going on there, but I wanted to ask for a second opinion.

Is this article, and similar articles, notable? For context, here's what I wrote on Curbon7's page: "I appreciated your review of my article for submission. When it was declined you mentioned a lack of reliable sources and proof of notability. I am of course aware that I only cited one source, which was Forbes. However, I think there is precedent for this style of List article, directly based off a reputable financial source, similar to the List of wealthiest Americans by net worth, Forbes list of The World's 100 Most Powerful Women, and 6 other lists published annually by a different magazine, Fortune, all of which have articles on Wikipedia (See list).

Since there's such a strong case of precedent, what do you think about including the 100 Largest US Charities on Wikipedia as well?" Ph03n1x77 (talk) 05:07, 14 October 2021 (UTC)


 * @Ph03n1x77 For the list to be notable you need to find publications other than Forbes which contain significant discussion of Forbes' list. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:53, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

05:10:21, 14 October 2021 review of submission by Normal rookie
I improve this Draft many times, later it got rejected many time. I hope reviewer can accept this Draft Normal rookie (talk) 05:10, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The draft has been rejected, meaning it will not be reconsidered. Unfortunately, the person you're writing about is simply not backed up by enough WP:RS, so unless if they have otherwise received notable coverage, it is impossible for it to be accepted.Gorden 2211 (talk) 05:34, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

08:10:27, 14 October 2021 review of draft by Francoisvluk
I want to submit a new version of this article that was rejected and I have completely reworked it to address the comments. Is there a way to start the article page over again. This is a major reworking, and not just editing of sections. I've changed the whole structure and content. Francoisvluk (talk) 08:10, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

08:32:03, 14 October 2021 review of draft by NirajDavi
NirajDavi (talk) 08:32, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

my article has been declined, and I don't know the exact reason for it to be declined. so i need help on this.
 * Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell the world about themselves, please see the autobiography policy. A Wikipedia article about you must summarize what independent reliable sources with sigificant coverage have chosen on their own to say about you(without prompting by you or based on what you tell them), showing how you meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable journalist or a notable person more broadly.  Your draft is completely unsourced. It is usually difficult for people to set aside what they know about themselves and only write based on what others say about them- perhaps as a journalist that will be a little easier for you to do. 331dot (talk) 09:20, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

11:54:57, 14 October 2021 review of draft by Jagannathsena
Jagannathsena (talk) 11:54, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
 * You don't ask a question, but your draft is completely unsourced. Please see Referencing for Beginners to learn more about citing your sources. 331dot (talk) 12:04, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

15:04:55, 14 October 2021 review of submission by Manjunathhegde7
Manjunathhegde7 (talk) 15:04, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

15:22:53, 14 October 2021 review of submission by WhenJawadEdits
please remove the word that violate your commmunity but please publish my page

WhenJawadEdits (talk) 15:22, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Your draft Draft:Jawad Show was rejected. The only content was "Jawad Show is an informative website created by Jawad Ali". The draft was then deleted. Theroadislong (talk) 15:37, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

17:36:06, 14 October 2021 review of draft by Ckennedy18
Hello, I previously had this article rejected on grounds of not significant enough coverage. I have now added in some newly published references. I would be grateful if someone could have a look to see does it now warrant publication. Many thanks in advance.

There was also a COI issue which I hope is now resolved by making a declaration on my talk page.Hans Sachs (talk) 17:36, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

Hans Sachs (talk) 17:36, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the disclosure, and please look at Help:Footnotes and User:Jéské Couriano/Decode while you wait - it's going to take me a little bit to assess these references. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 18:34, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
 * My assessment of the sources is as follows:
 * https://natbowen.com/bio is useless for notability (connexion to subject). The subject's own website, and all content on it, is by default a self-published source.
 * We can't use https://www.standard.co.uk/culture/artwork-meteorite-dust-saatchi-gallery-a4566191.html (too sparse). The article consists of literally five sentences, and doesn't (and arguably can't) really discuss her or her work in any substantive detail.
 * https://www.dorchestercollection.com/en/moments/nat-bowens-artistic-chromadelic-creations/ is useless for notability (connexion to subject). Hotel which is announcing it's partnering with her for a public exhibition.
 * https://www.vanityfair.com/london/2021/05/vanity-fair-meets-the-artist-nat-bowen is itself too sparse to use, and I can't assess the link at the bottom due to a technical barrier (Firefox throws a fit and blocks access if I try).
 * We can't use https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/news-in-pictures-thursday-september-26-2019-n8qjt5c3d (too sparse). Photo gallery.
 * https://sustainhealth.fit/lifestyle/abstract-artist-nat-bowen/ seems good. While she isn't exactly the focus of the page, it does go into detail on her and her work, making it a good source.
 * We can't use https://www.epicureanlife.co.uk/post/45-park-lane-reopens-art-exhibit-with-british-abstract-artist-nat-bowen (unknown provenance). I can't find a byline, nor can I find a page which lists their staff (I'm looking to see if they have an editor in chief).
 * https://boutiquelondon.com/chelsea/start-art-fair-at-the-saatchi-gallery/ is borderline. I'd personally like to see a bit more information about her in the source.
 * https://mayfairtimes.co.uk/2021/09/butterfly-effect/ is useless for notability (connexion to subject). Interview without a lede; the post-script is about an auction and doesn't say boo about her.
 * https://www.portugalresident.com/london-calling-38/ is useless for this subject (too sparse). Three sentences at the bottom of the article, none of which really talks about her in any depth. The content here is practically redundant to that of the Sustain Health source.
 * https://www.pressreader.com/uk/business-and-sports/20210510/282106344517000 is useless for this subject (too sparse). While substantial image captions can be cited, the caption here is more about the painting than her.
 * I am unsure about https://artplugged.co.uk/nat-bowen-launches-her-exhibition-28-fragments-with-the-worlds-first-artwalk/ 's reliability as a source; I would ask after this at WP:RS/N.
 * https://www.dontdiewondering.com/the-art-world-restarts-with-start-art-fair/ is borderline. Again, it talks about her a fair bit, but I'd prefer to see a bit more here.
 * There's an argument to be made that notability has been met, but as this isn't my usual forte other regulars here may chime in if I'm offbase. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 19:01, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

18:14:31, 14 October 2021 review of submission by NicoleMASD
Hello, I'd like to ask for advice on how to improve this page. I've made numerous updates to the citations to establish notability but I don't believe the article has been re-reviewed. Can you please advise?
 * As the draft was rejected, it won't be considered further. Wikipedia is not a place to merely tell about an organization and what it does. A Wikipedia article about an organization must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about an organization, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable organization. No amount of editing can confer notability.
 * If you are associated with this organization, please review conflict of interest and paid editing. 331dot (talk) 00:14, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Request on 18:48:05, 14 October 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Antfarmalta
Hi, My article was refused today it is about a Maltese strongman who was very well known in the 1960s and 1970s in Malta. I have used reliable secondary sources which are two books which have extensive information on Charles. Charles was one of the first strongmen in the world to pull a full sized airliner back in the 1960s. I think the reviewer is from Nigeria and does not have any idea about Malta. We are a tiny country and there are not a lot of articles available for even notable people especially those from decades ago. Despite this Charles is mentioned in two major publications by David Webster (a very famous figure in the world of strongman) and Joe Julian Farrugia a local Maltese broadcaster and author. I hope you will re-review my submission as I would like to add a number of articles on the subject of oldtime strongmen from Malta.

Regards,

antfarmalta

Antfarmalta (talk) 18:48, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

19:06:57, 14 October 2021 review of submission by The Mountain1
The Mountain1 (talk) 19:06, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

This new article about OnwardMobility is absolutely in line with all Wikipedia rules and guidelines. The text has been written from a neutral perspective, it's completely based on facts and figures only and includes all necessary references. No reason for not publishing it!
 * Please see your user talk page for important information. Regarding the draft, you resubmitted it twice without making any changes. The sources you provided are not appropriate. Please review all the comments on the draft. 331dot (talk) 00:17, 15 October 2021 (UTC)