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= October 17 =

00:36:54, 17 October 2021 review of draft by Thedailyneedle
The reason being is that since there are the lack of proper information on Carlos, I would like for it to be on page. (from what I’ve seen. Many of the sources however have similar info.) I’ve spent hours trying to find info on the subject.

Thedailyneedle (talk) 00:36, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

03:40:50, 17 October 2021 review of submission by Normal rookie
Can give me advice about the draft, I improve the draft many times Normal rookie (talk) 03:40, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Request on 06:37:42, 17 October 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Shambepress
I want write an article about my news paper and organization but I see it is rejected. There for I want you to help me get it done in accordance with your guidelines and policies.

Shambepress (talk) 06:37, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Your draft is a blatant advertisement for your newspaper business. A Wikipedia article about your newspaper must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about it, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable organization.  Wikipedia is not interested in what your organization wants to say about itself, only in what others completely unconnected with it choose on their own to say about it(not based on any materials put out by your organization like its website, interviews with staff, or press releases).
 * Since you work for the newspaper, please review and comply with conflict of interest and paid editing. 331dot (talk) 07:17, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

06:41:56, 17 October 2021 review of submission by Azizaryanswiki
Azizaryanswiki (talk) 06:41, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * You don't ask a question, but Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell the world about themselves, please see the autobiography policy. 331dot (talk) 07:14, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

08:04:03, 17 October 2021 review of submission by Martin.tinku510
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Martin.tinku510 (talk) 08:04, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

08:04:03, 17 October 2021 review of draft by Martin.tinku510
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08:38:51, 17 October 2021 review of draft by VijayWayne
Can someone please help me adding sources to my draft? Thank you so much! VijayWayne (talk) 08:38, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

10:35:47, 17 October 2021 review of draft by CredenceMind
Do I need to provide reliable sources for the various performances given by the artist? What can I do if there is no coverage of the performances given by the artist? Does images or videos taken during the performances can be used as reliable sources? CredenceMind (talk) 10:35, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Before worrying about citing the performances, you must first establish that this musician meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable musician, by summarizing and citing independent reliable sources with significant coverage of the musician. 331dot (talk) 10:51, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

11:52:52, 17 October 2021 review of submission by 47.201.107.68
Please help me fix 47.201.107.68 (talk) 11:52, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further, and no amount of editing can change that. Please see the comments left by reviewers. 331dot (talk) 13:08, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

15:37:35, 17 October 2021 review of submission by Anishkatyal05
Dear Team, this is company page and have used the legit information for them. please let me know what went wrong the reason my submission was rejected. Anishkatyal05 (talk) 15:37, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Your draft was rejected because it was blatant advertising and speedy deleted as such. Wikipedia is NOT a venue for promoting or listing your business. Theroadislong (talk) 15:50, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Request on 18:17:05, 17 October 2021 for assistance on Draft:SATURATE!RECORDS submission by Xythium
i want to make a page for the record label that i work for (im not getting paid to make the page, but i do get paid to work for the label obviously)

i modelled the page after Mau5trap & Mau5trap_discography, because those are the pages im the most familiar with

i have set up an artist section, with every artist that has been "signed" (its actually a list of every artist that has released on the label, or on a compilation, not counting any featured artists for both of those, because i dont know or have the actual list of contracts). these should have references, but i dont really know where to get them. all of these artists/releases can be found the Bandcamp & SoundCloud pages for the label, and most of them can be found on many music stores & services. i dont know if those are valid references. the mau5trap page uses articles/magazines as references but i dont know if thats feasible here, and it would be tedious to find for every single release/artist (and probably doesnt exist for many)

i have also set up a section for the label discography. i dont see mau5trap using references here (for the majority) so i assume it's fine i dont do that here either, but the same thing would be true for what i said for artists.

further more i would like to know if there is anything else i should add, and if there is anything style-wise that should be changed Xythium (talk) 18:17, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * , Mau5trap was created in 2011, way before the current notability standards are in existent. You should not follow the article as an example. An interested editor may come along and improve the article. You can considered the page as grandfathered. A more recently edited article that you can reference to would be (almost) any of the Korean record labels such as JYP Entertainment.
 * To pass the notabilty criteria, it is best to include a history section, with the content well-supported by third party, independent and reliable sources. As for the list of artists and groups under them, only those who are notable should be included, Wikipedia is not a directory listing.
 * Lastly, conflict of interest guidelines are clear. As long as you are in employment in any capacity by the company the article is about, you have a conflict of interest. Do put the necessary declarations on your talk page and on the draft/article's talk page as well. – robertsky (talk) 23:37, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Lastly, conflict of interest guidelines are clear. As long as you are in employment in any capacity by the company the article is about, you have a conflict of interest. Do put the necessary declarations on your talk page and on the draft/article's talk page as well. – robertsky (talk) 23:37, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Lastly, conflict of interest guidelines are clear. As long as you are in employment in any capacity by the company the article is about, you have a conflict of interest. Do put the necessary declarations on your talk page and on the draft/article's talk page as well. – robertsky (talk) 23:37, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

22:03:57, 17 October 2021 review of draft by 67.60.48.205
is there any way to delete the article or pull it from the queue for review? thanks 67.60.48.205 (talk) 22:03, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Don't get what you meant by your question. The draft in question has been deleted for unambigious advertising. – robertsky (talk) 23:39, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

23:23:24, 17 October 2021 review of submission by Eddie10a
HI I was wondering how I can start a wikipedia page for myself? Im a Rock singer known in my style of music. Thanks Eddie Law Eddie10a (talk) 23:23, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * , we don't encourage people to right about themselves. Because inevitably the article will either be a promotional piece of work, which runs contrary to the goals of Wikipedia as an encylopedia, or you be upset at the perceived lost of control of the article's content and direction. See Autobiography. You can request for an article to be write about yourself at Requested articles, and hopefully someone will pick it up. – robertsky (talk) 23:27, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia does not have mere "pages", it has articles. This is a subtle but important distinction. Writing an article about yourself, while not forbidden, is highly discouraged. Please read the autobiography policy. Please also learn about how an article about yourself is not necessarily a good thing.
 * If you still want to attempt to write an article, please review the definition of a notable musician. If you meet it, you need to set aside everything you know about yourself and only write based on the content of independent reliable sources say about you. Most people have great difficulty doing that. 331dot (talk) 23:36, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

23:29:20, 17 October 2021 review of submission by Scootbilly
I am requesting a re-review on WP:NORG, to explain how the following sources do not address and event of the Company as it's main: Blakkarly, Jarni (6 April 2020). "Greg Mortimer: 81 people test positive for COVID-19 on Australian cruise ship off Uruguay". SBS News. Retrieved 8 April 2020. Noyes, Jenny (6 April 2020). "More than 80 passengers on board Greg Mortimer cruise ship test positive for COVID-19". The Sydney Morning Herald. Retrieved 8 April 2020. "Uruguay transports Australians, New Zealanders from virus-hit cruise ship". Reuters. 2020-04-11. Retrieved 2020-04-25. Kwan, Biwa (2020-04-11). "Greg Mortimer: Australian, New Zealand passengers go into quarantine after arriving in Melbourne | SBS News". Sbs.com.au. Retrieved 2020-04-25

I am also requesting a re-review of the WP:IBA, and ask which sections are considered blatant advertising? Also what CNN source is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Hako9 referring to?

Scootbilly (talk) 23:29, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * , History of expedition cruising in Antarctica section can be removed without effect the article as the article should be about the company and the company itself. History of Aurora Expeditions is largely uncited. It is also rather puffery in its words and boasts of its founders rather than about the company. Very promotional in nature too, 'launches websites with local currencies...' etc. That's not remarkable or notable in today's context. The rest of the article has no proper citations, and are also puffery in nature. COVID-19 on the ship section is not needed, rather a single sentence summary may sufficie given that the ship has its own article page, and the situation is already described there.
 * Indepedently, I feel that the article is rather promotional, and advertorial in nature. The WP:IBA call is right. The article will require significant rewrite, however I am unsure if there are other sources beyond what has been provided in the article. – robertsky (talk) 23:58, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * As far as I can recall there isn't/hasn't been. (string: "aurora expeditions"). We have also repeatedly and in no uncertain terms told users who came into IRC and claimed to be working for the company to disclose. Based on the red links for their user and talk pages, they have not done so. We should not be rewarding mercenary editors who are quite clearly playing dumb. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 02:12, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
 * As far as I can recall there isn't/hasn't been. (string: "aurora expeditions"). We have also repeatedly and in no uncertain terms told users who came into IRC and claimed to be working for the company to disclose. Based on the red links for their user and talk pages, they have not done so. We should not be rewarding mercenary editors who are quite clearly playing dumb. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 02:12, 18 October 2021 (UTC)