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= October 6 =

04:10:33, 6 October 2021 review of submission by NruasPaoYPP Then, copy and paste this code in the big input box below that:

08:21:31, 6 October 2021 review of submission by Exsap
I do not understand why my submission is not noteworthy for Wikipedia,

When I was going through the Belgium Armed Forces - Land Component Structure of the Belgian Armed Forces it has in Red Explosive Removal and Destruction Service (DOVO - SEDEE)

I researched the topic and found a wealth of information and provided the citations for my submission including from The Defense (Belgium Armed Forces) website, BBC news, and the DOVO - SEDEE webpage,

I met I believe all the requirements as per my other Published Wikipedia submission "JAGERS TE PAARD Battalion (ISTAR) which was also in Red the Land Component Structure of the Belgian Armed Forces

I believe my submission is noteworthy for Wikipedia, and is my own work and has been properly cited

For your Consideration

Kind Regards,

Exsap Exsap (talk) 08:21, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The draft is not properly cited in that this draft does not summarize independent reliable sources with significant coverage. You offer four sources, some of which merely cite the specific points made. Please see Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 09:45, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

09:28:50, 6 October 2021 review of submission by 2409:4053:383:C8F2:3DEC:F0C8:55AD:8F1D
Hi Wikipedia Admins, I have added ISNI identification to FAMEPUBLISH page, is is eligible now? kindly let me know.
 * Any editor can review drafts, not just admins. The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. No amount of editing can change that. 331dot (talk) 09:42, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

13:04:29, 6 October 2021 review of submission by 2600:1006:B0DF:22CC:806F:89CA:B416:E209
2600:1006:B0DF:22CC:806F:89CA:B416:E209 (talk) 13:04, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * You don't ask a question, but the draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 13:12, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

Request on 14:12:53, 6 October 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Piratenation101
The subject of my page, Ginny Favede, is the president of a well-known university in West Virginia, US. She should easily satisfy the notability credentials, but there could be an issue with some of my sources. I tried to include a well-rounded mix of various local newspapers (secondary), a press release from the university (primary), and even an election result table from NYT.

Would really appreciate some help determining what seems to be the issue. Thanks so much in advance.

Piratenation101 (talk) 14:12, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The sources are just announcements about what this president does, they are not in depth coverage of her personally and why she is notable. Some of them contain quotes from her, which does not establish notability as that is a primary source. 331dot (talk) 14:17, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

Request on 15:24:32, 6 October 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Srikanth Goparaju
Srikanth Goparaju (talk) 15:24, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

I have recently created an article for inclusion in Wikipedia. I believe that Wikipedia should be more encouraging of new article submissions by first time users. I feel I have been unfairly treated by Wikipedia and its editors. I am looking for another review.

It takes months for an article to be reviewed but within a couple of days my account was deleted. Wikipedia moved with agility and speed in an area that was not really needed. I also do not have access to the drafts!

As I am management professional, I hope my post to be reviewed by competent professionals.

The following is what I have tried to write on contesting the decision, but I guess this was not processed by the system.

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Deletion of the account has been an excessive step. All that I did was to create a log in and an article describing my books. I noticed that when I searched for my name, I did not get the details of my books on Wikipedia. So, I realized that it would be difficult for folks to learn about my books.

Authors should be able to write about their works and publications. I don't know if anyone frowns at this at all. Restricting companies from promoting products may not be acceptable in some societies or cultures. But writers and authors should not be subject to these restrictions to an unnecessary extent. Please review the policies of Wikipedia in this regard.

Thanks and I hope for a flexible and understanding approach from Wikipedia to my situation,

Srikanth Goparaju
 * Your account has not been deleted, that is not technically or legally possible. Your draft was deleted.  Please review the autobiography policy; while not forbidden, it is strongly discouraged for people to write autobiographical articles, as people naturally write favorably about themselves.  We are not interested in what you want to say about yourself- you can do that on social media or a personal website. Wikipedia is interested in what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about you, showing how you meet Wikipedia's special definition of a notable person. Wikipedia has no interest in aiding your career, your fans, or enhancing search results for you. A Wikipedia article is also not necessarily desirable. There are good reasons to not want one.
 * To succeed in writing about yourself, you need to set aside everything you know about yourself, and only write based on the content of independent sources. Most people have great difficulty doing that. If you are just here to promote yourself, you are going to be disappointed. 331dot (talk) 15:53, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

17:12:26, 6 October 2021 review of submission by AhmadWzd
sir i put this article only to draft for review and i wanted to add more to this article and references and i wan not finished with this article but you still declined it.

AhmadWzd (talk) 17:12, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * , you shouldn't have put it up for review before you are done adding to the draft. What's done is done. Just do what you want to do first and resubmit the draft. If it has improved sufficiently from the rejection, subsequent reviewer may discount the rejection. Pinging, for he is the one who rejected the draft. – robertsky (talk) 17:38, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

17:32:22, 6 October 2021 review of submission by Shrlyn005
Hi Please if anyone can guide me on this.thanks Shrlyn005 (talk) 17:32, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * , the draft is rejected and shouldn't have been considered further, but here I am... At the moment, there's not enough independent and reliable references to support what you have written about him, and also to pass the notability guidelines for actors.
 * For the references, do not use iMDb as they are considered as self-published sources. Some of your sources are tangential what you have written, i.e completed his education in X university... but the source is only that he was a criminal lawyer.
 * For notability as an actor, the guidelines recommend multiple significant roles in notable films/tv shows. In here, only one is evident, which is for Merely Sai. It is unclear as to how significant his role is going to be in the upcoming film, so let's not evaluate on that. Another way to meet the guidelines is to have notable contributions in the field of entertainment. Usually editors would write in notable awards/accolades from notable award ceremonies for this criteria if the subject has won them.
 * It is a case of WP:TOOSOON. I recommend that you keep improving on this draft until the notable standards for actors have been met, and that the facts about him as a person are generally backed with independent and reliable references. – robertsky (talk) 17:56, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * For notability as an actor, the guidelines recommend multiple significant roles in notable films/tv shows. In here, only one is evident, which is for Merely Sai. It is unclear as to how significant his role is going to be in the upcoming film, so let's not evaluate on that. Another way to meet the guidelines is to have notable contributions in the field of entertainment. Usually editors would write in notable awards/accolades from notable award ceremonies for this criteria if the subject has won them.
 * It is a case of WP:TOOSOON. I recommend that you keep improving on this draft until the notable standards for actors have been met, and that the facts about him as a person are generally backed with independent and reliable references. – robertsky (talk) 17:56, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * It is a case of WP:TOOSOON. I recommend that you keep improving on this draft until the notable standards for actors have been met, and that the facts about him as a person are generally backed with independent and reliable references. – robertsky (talk) 17:56, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Robertsky i highly appreciate your reply, I have much more clarity as a new user. thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shrlyn005 (talk • contribs) 23:03, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

Request on 17:43:28, 6 October 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Eddy202
My client Wikipedia just got deleted few minute ago please can you alright were to make correction please kindly help out. Thanks

Eddy202 (talk) 17:43, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * , Your client? Undeclared paid editing is frowned upon on Wikipedia, and you are not Eddy, which means a username change is in order as well as impersonation is frowned upon as well (see: WP:REALNAME). I cannot access the deleted article (not an admin), but based on the deletion reason, it seems that your article looks rather promotional/advertorial, and would require significant rewrite. So, just start a fresh with a new draft, but before that, declare your Conflict of Interest, and change your username. – robertsky (talk) 18:06, 6 October 2021 (UTC)