Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2021 October 8

= October 8 =

00:29:43, 8 October 2021 review of submission by Lnmi Alumni Y2k
It's a wikipedia for a technical institute "LNMI, Patna" which has full time under graduate and post graduate courses since many decades and there are people looking for the information of this Institute all over the world. This wikipedia page is going to become similar to MIT or Manipal or so - over a period of time. Lnmi Alumni Y2k (talk) 00:29, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Given the article was deleted as a blatant ad for the school, this obviously isn't the way to go about it. We take offence to people trying to use Wikipedia as an ad platform and routinely block users whose only purpose on Wikipedia is marketing. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 03:37, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

03:23:30, 8 October 2021 review of submission by Mangilal Patel
Mangilal Patel (talk) 03:23, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * No sources, no article, no debate. We are not social media. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 03:33, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

08:36:48, 8 October 2021 review of draft by Neoui bada
Sorry, but I feel like I'm running in circles. The first time I edited this article, it was clearly not neutral and lacked sources (and it was published). So I added a bunch of sources, took out the adjectives and expanded it. Suddenly, the article got deleted and I'm trying to edit it according to the various editors that reject it: take out Vulkan.com sources, try not to make it sound like a press release,... But I feel like different people keep moving the posts even though I think the article is better than it was. So I'm kind of lost here, because I feel that the reasons are subjective (each time a different one), maybe because the maritimte sector is not well known? I don't know. Anyway, I'd need help about how to get a clear opinion on what the issue is (or are, if there are several). Thank you in advance. Neoui bada (talk) 08:36, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

Neoui bada (talk) 08:36, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I just took a look at your draft and it completely seems as if it is an advertisement for the company. I can't find any way this draft of yours can ever be approved in its present form.  Gyan Know  contributions? 10:22, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

12:16:15, 8 October 2021 review of submission by Adaś
Hello, I would like to ask for a re-review of this page. It was rejected on grounds of not being sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. I have reviewed the requirements for notability (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(organizations_and_companies)) and believe this topic meets all requirements. Please see details/evidence below:

The following links on the topic meet the criteria of being stand-alone and receiving significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Also, they show “verifiable evidence that the organization or product has attracted the notice of reliable sources unrelated to the organization or product”:

-	https://www.bbc.com/news/business-40504764 -	https://financialpost.com/entrepreneur/growth-strategies/soti-builds-on-its-early-lead-in-mobile-enterprise-market -	https://www.itworldcanada.com/article/soti-launches-soti-aerospace-in-collaboration-with-ryerson-university/438339 -	https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/case-patents-attorneys-fees-e-d-tex-2 o	https://outline.com/LvGzeS -	https://www.law360.com/articles/1385360 o	https://outline.com/gTW5aK

Another reason for notability is the topic's significant or demonstrable effects on culture, society, entertainment, athletics, economies, history, literature, science, or education. I believe this article regarding drone research conducted by the company shows evidence of this: https://www.itworldcanada.com/article/soti-launches-soti-aerospace-in-collaboration-with-ryerson-university/438339

Also, the notability requirements for organizations note significant, independent, and reliable product reviews. Here are two examples:

-	https://www.techradar.com/reviews/soti-mobicontrol-mdm -	https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/soti-mobicontrol

Thank you for re-considering this submission :)

Adaś (talk) 12:16, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I have an one line answer for your this long 'Review of submission', which is: Your draft was rejected and it won't be considered again for a review.  Gyan Know  contributions? 12:26, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

13:25:50, 8 October 2021 review of submission by Open sasame
The article Draft: Minami Aizawa had been processed by speedy deletion. It has been modified to pass from the process and preparing to submit for Articles for creation. Please assist for further editing and adjustments.

Open sasame (talk) 13:25, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Your draft has only two references, YouTube is not a reliable source. A Wikipedia article summarizes what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a topic showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person. Theroadislong (talk) 18:18, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

17:55:35, 8 October 2021 review of submission by Achdouz
Achdouz (talk) 17:55, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

hi i have sombit a artircle for me as an artiste and u have not accepted why?
 * Your draft Draft:H12compteofficiel@gmail.com is in French, (this is the English Wikipedia) and gives no indication of being notable. Theroadislong (talk) 18:10, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

19:28:33, 8 October 2021 review of draft by AssistsMo
I'm still in the learning phase and getting to know Wikipedia contribution. I'm trying to build the best article and leverage all help available. Would be helpful just to have someone look at the page (some editors already have taken a look and helped me out). I noticed when I try to add a URL reference, there is a blacklist error flagged. Not sure what that is about; that's an example of something someone can look into. In building the page, I based the edit on pages like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LendingTree. Anyway, just posting here to get visibility to the project and any help/education on the topic. AssistsMo (talk) 19:28, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The title was deleted here Articles for deletion/Way.com previously and salted, sources would have to be vastly improved and any conflict of interest properly disclosed. Theroadislong (talk) 19:36, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

19:31:32, 8 October 2021 review of submission by SyedMuhammedAli786
SyedMuhammedAli786 (talk) 19:31, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

How Can I improve this page so its request is accepted
 * You can't. It was rejected, meaning it will not be considered further. No amount of editing can confer notability. 331dot (talk) 20:14, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * This is actually a case where I'd question if the reject was sound, given the rejector was blocked two days later as a sock. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 21:44, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * That said, please refer to the top table here. I will deliberately be skipping over every citation to the subject's own website (connexion to subject).
 * I can't assess https://www.tellychakkar.com/tv/tv-news/rashmi-sharma-launch-saath-nibhaana-saathiya-season-2-devoleena-bhattacharjee-roped?amp or https://www.tellychakkar.com/tv/tv-news/rashmi-sharma-telefilms-next-star-plus-be-based-bollywood-movie-hum-aapke-hai-kaun-210424 at this time due to technical issues; the website is returning an 503 (overloaded/down for maintenance) error.
 * https://www.auditionform.in/rashmi-sharma-to-come-up-with-sasural-simar-ka-2/ is useless for notability (too sparse). Most of the article is about the show and not Rashmi Sharma Telefilms; there's very little about the firm in the source.
 * https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tv/news/hindi/vivian-dsena-and-eisha-singh-to-pair-up-for-rashmi-sharmas-show-which-will-be-on-the-lines-of-kabir-singh/articleshow/86397985.cms is useless for notability (too sparse). Name-drop; the article is about actors attached to one of its programmes.
 * https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/television/swaragini-helly-shah-varun-kapoor-show-to-go-off-air-in-december-4378966/ is useless for notability (too sparse). Name-drop; article is about a show ending its run.
 * https://www.exchange4media.com/amp/industry-briefing-news/colors-launches-new-show-shaktiastitva-ke-ehsaas-kii-64616.html is useless for notability (too sparse). Name-drop and a quote from a company principal. No actual discussion of RSTF.
 * https://www.adgully.com/star-bharat-soon-to-launch-a-new-heart-warming-show-musakaan-77782.html is useless for notability (too sparse). Name-drop.
 * So based upon the sources, I don't see much hope for this draft unless the Tellychakar sources are utterly unimpeachable, but from past experience I don't see that being the case. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 21:55, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I have removed the decline and block by the sock and added back the submit template. Theroadislong (talk) 21:49, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

20:10:47, 8 October 2021 review of submission by Veritasestpotentia
Please look at

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Helen_Petersen

Is Buzz Feed more notable than Inc? Or because she had a Twitter war? She too wrote one book and wrote a dozen or so articles. Not any more notable.

Veritasestpotentia (talk) 20:10, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Please see other poor quality articles exist for that argument, Anne Helen Petersen is not a good example to base a draft on. Theroadislong (talk) 20:18, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

23:18:14, 8 October 2021 review of draft by Godsentme1
Can you move my draft to the namespace please thank you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Godsentme1/sandbox Godsentme1 (talk) 23:18, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. It is now located at Draft:AJDaGuru. Curbon7 (talk) 01:58, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

23:31:55, 8 October 2021 review of draft by Devyart
After I submitted  my draft, a message said it could take 7 weeks to get an answer as there were 1500 or so submissions before mine. My rejection came in less than twelve hours. Bkissin (talk) said it 'reads like an essay' and  is not  encyclopedic sounding  or neutral enough. Could he give me some examples. Could I perhaps get someone else's opinion? Devyart (talk) 23:31, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * This indeed reads like a detailed research essay rather than a general encyclopaedia article that summarises the subject. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 23:50, 8 October 2021 (UTC)