Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2021 September 16

= September 16 =

00:21:30, 16 September 2021 review of submission by TheChunky
The draft was created by a new user, and when it was declined first time. He/she asked me to contribute and improve that draft here. For his help, I mentioned an expert user who usually contributes to WP:ISLAM related articles. He also declined again and left for improvements. Later, I improved the draft and added reliable sources on the topic and submitted it for review. But this is really disappointing for that new user who is the main author of the draft article, which I believe is likely notable but got rejected and maybe even against the WP:BITE.  ❯❯❯  Chunky aka Al Kashmiri   (✍️) 00:21, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi, from what it appeared to me (again), I've reverted the AfC rejection, and would like to re-review it sometime later in the day. Thanks for all the improvements. ─ The Aafī on Mobile   (talk)|undefined  00:55, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

02:20:36, 16 September 2021 review of submission by Wcsneel
Could you please share any template that can display accurate map? Template:Location_map is only display country right? how about smaller area? What are the suggestion

Wcsneel (talk) 02:20, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
 * no, also supports smaller areas. You can select which area you want by specifiying the |1= param. I am going to insert a few examples below.




 * You can also use a combined view to use less vertical space in the actual article(this requires JavaScript to be enabled in the browser of the user):


 * Hope this helps. Victor Schmidt (talk) 08:35, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

07:06:06, 16 September 2021 review of submission by Benjaminwrightwales
I don't understand why this page keeps getting rejected. I am trying to build individual pages for each Ginger Wildheart album and then create a seperate discography page.

I would also argue that Ginger's other albums have individual pages - and with far less references / citations. And the last album page I created, Albion, was accepted.

There are lots of references for G*A*S*S*, and given its innovative model where a single was released every month for a year, I want to argue the case that it should be worthy of inclusion.

Please can you reconsider this and I would also be grateful for some feedback.

Kind regards, Ben

Benjaminwrightwales (talk) 07:06, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
 * The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. It appears to not meet Wikipedia's special definition of notability, as shown with significant coverage in independent reliable sources.  At least one of the sources that you offer is an interview with the singer, which is not an independent source.
 * Please see other stuff exists. That other inappropriate articles exist does not mean that yours can too. As this is a volunteer project where people do what they can when they can, it is possible to get inappropriate articles by us. We can only address what we know about. If you want to help us out, you can identify these other inappropriate articles you have seen for possible action. 331dot (talk) 08:05, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

13:12:30, 16 September 2021 review of submission by 105.178.104.204
105.178.104.204 (talk) 13:12, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
 * "my experiences have helped me to self-actualize in to advising entrepreneurs and management to achieve their targets." clearly has no place whatsoever in an encyclopaedia article. Theroadislong (talk) 13:18, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

13:31:53, 16 September 2021 review of submission by CollinsPhil
CollinsPhil (talk) 13:31, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

This article is about a South African musician whose name is Turna. I created this article for Turna's followers and fan's who are seeking more information about this musician, Therefore I please and beg for Wikipedia's team to take this article to the live space so that people can learn more about the artist. As time goes by I will keep expanding this article as I continue to do researches and keep this article updated. It is an honour to be welcomed with love and respect here on Wikipedia, as a creator of this article I plea for this article to be taken to live space, Thank you CollinsPhil (talk) 13:31, 16 September 2021 (UTC).
 * Begging and Pleading are not required, you simply need to suggest how they pass the criteria at WP:NMUSICIAN. Theroadislong (talk) 13:43, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

14:57:28, 16 September 2021 review of submission by CollinsPhil
CollinsPhil (talk) 14:57, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
 * See reply above. Theroadislong (talk) 14:59, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Request on 17:41:34, 16 September 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Abhilashsnair
I Made all edits suggested, cite title, added more links, please verify

Request on 18:15:00, 16 September 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Anitnepres
Hello, I am attempting to create Wikipedia pages on behalf of established Latinx artists in Minnesota. Originally, I had disclosed that I had no relation to the subjects, as I was informed by another Wikipedia editor that editors of color on Wikipedia are often Doxxed. I apologize for my attempt to dodge this question. I assure you that it was done out of a desire to protect myself and my community.

I am reaching out now in hopes of clearing up this confusion, and finding a solution to moving forward with these drafts. Would it be possible for me to speak with someone as to how to move forward with these articles? To be clear, neither I or the artist wrote these articles. The articles were written by neutral third parties, and I have been paid to upload them to Wikipedia.

Please let me know what next steps could be.

Thanks, Anitepres


 * Was "disclosed", above, a typo for "dissimulated"? Whichever, thank you for your new candour. I've only seen one of these drafts, Draft:Luis Fitch. For all I know, it may indeed have been written by a neutral third party; but if it was, then the party needed more familiarity with Wikipedia. The text is fluent but it's just not encyclopedic, and the referencing is utterly inadequate. This makes me wonder what you mean by uploading drafts. (With this edit, I uploaded an article. This took mere seconds. What preceded the upload took hours and hours, as did what followed it.) Trimming promotional excrescences from and rephrasing the texts shouldn't be hard, but if you're also expected to search for and provide references for what the texts say, you're likely to find that the rate you're getting per hour of work will drop drastically. -- Hoary (talk) 22:13, 16 September 2021 (UTC)