Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2021 September 26

= September 26 =

09:42:36, 26 September 2021 review of submission by Dwinsdsmintyerh
Dwinsdsmintyerh (talk) 09:42, 26 September 2021 (UTC) How to create a record and then publish?
 * Wikipedia is not a place to merely tell about something Wikipedia summarises what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a topic, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of notability. Your draft is just blatant advertising and has been tagged for speedy deletion. Theroadislong (talk) 10:25, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

12:25:08, 26 September 2021 review of submission by Georgecross255
PLEASE READ TILL THE END i am requesting for re-review because the biography is for a person that is notable here in our country Tanzania and has over 183,000 fans on social media (simple example instagram ), even the late Tanzanian president dr. john pombe joseph magufuli  recognized the person as a youth who helps other youths spiritually. the person is also an artist who sings and has a couple of songs which show up when one tries to google search his name.

another reason is because his fans need some information about the person so that when they try to find his name on the internet some information will show up and they too can edit and add even more information about the person, also many Tanzanian and East African official news sites and media recognize the person as a prophet who is well known here in Tanzania

also i am requesting for re-review so that the person can have an article because other prophets like him example "josephat gwajima"  and many others here in Tanzania have biography wikipedia articles. so i personally think he too deserves an article since this is a free knownledge panel and anyone has the right to contribute information to the article. lastly i tried to be as neutral as possible while editing the draft that is to be approve ,so please i am asking for re-review so that the article can go live and other editors like me can add even more information about the subject

Faithfully georgecross255 Tanzania East Africa.

Georgecross255 (talk) 12:25, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
 * The draft as written has virtually no content or context and would be deleted under the relevant speedy deletion criteria were it a full article. We are an encyclopaedia, not a profile website. We also don't care that other tangential articles in the same topic area exist. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 13:25, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
 * We are also not interested in aiding his fans or in enhancing search results for him. 331dot (talk) 10:24, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

15:06:30, 26 September 2021 review of submission by PedroLeveque
PedroLeveque (talk) 15:06, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
 * No sources, no article, no debate. The draft is also written as if it were an advertizement. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 15:18, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

23:38:45, 26 September 2021 review of submission by Buddy011

23:38:45, 26 September 2021 review of submission by Buddy011
User hoary rejected this article based on the assumption Kennedy Mitchell did not attend Cheshire Academy School, which is proven by the link to the schools website posted above, therefore the allegations for deletion are completely false.

Buddy011 (talk) 23:38, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

User hoary is mistaken regarding the Cheshire Academy School website, Kennedy Mitchell is listed as an almuni, and a notable alumni being a published author and authority on trading in capital markets. This can be easily seen on the Cheshire Academy website seen here : https://old-friends.co/school.php?s=14742#1989 Buddy011 (talk) 23:45, 26 September 2021 (UTC) clearly, user hoary did not perform proper research on the matter.


 * First, the claim that the article was rejected based on the assumption Kennedy Mitchell did not attend Cheshire Academy School does not seem to be correct. Here is what the rejection notice says about the school: consider that virtually nothing here (aside from a single incident) comes with references, the little "referencing" elsewhere is feeble: for example, he "was educated at the Cheshire Academy in Cheshire, Connecticut"; but when I click on the "reference" for that, I arrive at a web page that doesn't mention him. So two of the reasons the draft was rejected were 1) almost none of the information is referenced (which is a very basic requirement, especially for a biography of a living person), and 2) the references that are there are not particularly strong. The fact that the reference supplied for the education info doesn't mention Mitchell is one example of this. (The notice says as much. Explicitly.)  Another example of the same thing is this source which does not say anything about Mitchell, and in fact refers to an article at nbcconnecticut.com, which is also used as a reference in the draft. I can't see Mitchell being mentioned in that source either.
 * Second, if you realise that you have accidentally provided a source that doesn't support the content, the most constructive thing to do is to edit the reference and add a reliable source that does support it, if you have access to one. (The old-friends.co url you mention above is not a particularly good source, because the reader can't know which Kennedy Mitchell it is, but at least it does mention the name.) The argument that the reviewer ought to have found a link on the website is not valid.
 * Third, as also pointed out in the rejection notice, there is nothing in the draft that shows that Mitchell is in fact notable. I don't see how any reviewer could have accepted the draft, and given that an article about Mitchell has already been deleted following a community discussion, rejection is a reasonable outcome of the review. --bonadea contributions talk 11:00, 27 September 2021 (UTC)