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= April 19 =

02:17:04, 19 April 2022 review of draft by Skateazee
I'm trying to create a new article. It's been twice rejected for not being adequately supported by reliable sources, except I believe that it is. Can more context be given as to where claims are made that are not verifiable?

This is the article I am attempting to draft: Draft:Holy_Cross,_Indianapolis

It's largely based on this article, which IS published and is very similar, in both the types of information it provides and the number and types of references. Little_Flower,_Indianapolis

I have read "Referencing for Beginners". I cite both the official website for the neighborhood, plus the website for the namesake organization, plus provide an external link. All information is either very easily verifiable, very unlikely to be challenged, or both.

Could someone please help make this process a bit less difficult?

Skateazee (talk) 02:17, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * The problem is that there are no independent sources about the neighborhood. Neighborhood directories and organization web sites don't impart notability. You need to find pieces that have been written about the neighborhood by independent third party sources. See WP:GNG. I did a quick Google search and found these two items: [][]. Try to find pieces in the media. Why not also read WP:YOURFIRSTARTICLE? TechnoTalk (talk) 06:10, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Need Help to understand Notability
Please pardon my format. I do not understand, so many codes. Draft:BoAt_Lifestyle, is notable or not? Top sources, , ,. Rickinmorty (talk) 06:19, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

09:55:30, 19 April 2022 review of draft by Sylvia Nixon
Hello! My article has been under review for several months. Whom do I contact to speed up the process?

Sylvia Nixon (talk) 09:55, 19 April 2022 (UTC)


 * If I were a reviewer I would have definitely approved your article. It's having all necessary information and references for a Wikipedia article. BTW please check my draft Walking Zombie 2 (link on my user page) for any possible errors. Billapartygang123 (talk) 15:19, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Please do not make comments like this, especially if you have little clue about Wikipedia's policies. —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 23:18, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * There is nobody to contact to speed up the process; reviewers are volunteer editors like (most) everyone else on Wikipedia. As to the content of the draft, mu as a quick skim indicates this would fall under multiple discretionary sanctions regimes (specifically, WP:ARBEE and WP:ARBAA2). I would not be seeking to fast-track an article that falls into topic-areas that have historically been ethnopolitical battlegrounds on Wikipedia as well as real life. —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 23:23, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

12:55:55, 19 April 2022 review of submission by 114.130.157.112
Sir, Nahid24 is a famous online educationa platform. I provided a lot of sources. Buy you take it to delete. sir. Can I get advice that how can I get it approved? 114.130.157.112 (talk) 12:55, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a place to merely tell about something; Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a topic, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of notability. Please read Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 15:22, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

15:15:57, 19 April 2022 review of submission by Billapartygang123
Please check my draft walking zombie 2 for any error(s), if you don't find any, please approve it for an article. Billapartygang123 (talk) 15:15, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * The draft was rejected and will not be considered further. No amount of editing can confer notability on a topic. 331dot (talk) 15:19, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

15:45:21, 19 April 2022 review of submission by 194.44.239.132
194.44.239.132 (talk) 15:45, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Submitted 6 times with no sources, so now rejected. A Wikipedia article summarizes what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a topic your draft has none so has been rejected, it will not be considered further. Theroadislong (talk) 15:57, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

18:27:40, 19 April 2022 review of draft by Noelpk
I need extra help on how to cite my sources in the article using footnotes, I have tried to add citations as instructed but i haven't meet yet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations.

Thank you

Noelpk (talk) 18:27, 19 April 2022 (UTC)


 * We are not interested in a rerun of the Seigenthaler incident. Every biographical claim in the article that could potentially be challenged for any reason what-so-ever MUST be cited to in-depth, non-routine, independent sources written by identifiable authors and published in outlets with editorial oversight responsible for fact-checking, disclosure, corrections, and retractions that can corroborate the claim or (if no such sources can be found) removed wholesale. This is a hard requirement when writing about living or recently-deceased people and is NOT NEGOTIABLE. Your problem is that the draft is woefully undersourced, with entire paragraphs with multiple claims in them having zero sources all day. —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 23:14, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

22:06:59, 19 April 2022 review of submission by CK121119
When I click to submit my article, it tells me this: An error occurred (TypeError: Cannot read properties of null (reading 'length')). Please try again or refer to the help desk. What is my issue? CK121119 (talk) 22:06, 19 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Better question: Why are you citing social media, search engines, and wikis? —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 23:09, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * You'll want to read WP:YOURFIRSTARTICLE first. It's very hard to create a good article that will be approved unless you know the guidelines. Then, look at Help:Referencing for beginners. That will help you with the numerous ref (red) errors.  The tone is also important. Avoid being overly familiar with the subject; don't refer to her by her first name. Don't add anything that's unsourced, and really try to not source anything with info controlled by Clark, such as a social media post.  Lastly if you know her personally, or are being compensated in any way by her, you'll want to read WP:COI and make any necessary disclosures. TechnoTalk (talk) 23:27, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you!! CK121119 (talk) 02:39, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

23:24:52, 19 April 2022 review of draft by Wareno
A user recently declined this template that I submitted, citing the amount of red links it contained. I thoroughly reject the validity of his reasoning, and for a simple reason: the creation of such a template would only provide much-needed visibility to those would-be articles, thereby only improving their chances of being created if other users can actually see the work that needs to be done. The reviewer did not change his mind after I explained this to him, but declared to be open to the opinions of other reviewers. I didn't simply resubmit it because the header says "Please note that if the "issues" are not fixed, the draft will be declined again", but I'm looking for resolution.

Wareno (talk) 23:24, 19 April 2022 (UTC)


 * I did the same thing (once) on one of my drafts as well. A fellow Wiki-er tried to create a page that was very well put together and it got rejected. I red linked that name to draw awareness to it. You've got my vote :) CK121119 (talk) 03:10, 20 April 2022 (UTC)