Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2022 August 2

= August 2 =

06:11:09, 2 August 2022 review of submission by Brakshit23
Hello Dear reviewer, revision user. Govind Dholakia is one of the people's person in the diamond industry of india. Top institute of India like ISRO, IIM-A, IIT-B, Indian Railway Institute and renown university ask him to visit them and give insight over his journey in industry and his social work. He is not a person of marketing he is the person of people at large in gujarat. He makes Solar village, committed to serve the people of Gujarat. He wants to give it back to society.

i don't know who earlier attempted to make page for him or start article for him. their writing i am not aware their choice of words i am not aware, who were there i am not sure. i am a proud citizen of Surat and we do hear him in college lectures and social gatherings i feel sad about people not able to read about him, know about him,

i don't take it personally what other wiki community members say, tag and rejects, they might be right but not 100% right. with good collaboration we can create bridge for people to reach right people and i as an individual want to be that bridge builder. i am also working over such other articles by which i can empower such articles and nake it more visible for people.

i have tried all mode and references of IIM IIT and prominent news paper like times of india, business standard, economic times being ignored. please help.

Brakshit23 (talk) 06:11, 2 August 2022 (UTC)


 * @Brakshit23: I'm not sure I quite follow what you're saying, but that doesn't matter — this draft has been rejected, and won't be considered further. If you wish to plead your case, you need to do so with the reviewer who rejected it. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:17, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
 * hello Mate, see i am trying to do what they are indicating, improving on those lines, trying to make it inline with wiki policies but still they find irrelevant. Requested them to relook, reconsider after change but no they have their very right opinions.. which i do respect but sometimes they do upset me. Brakshit23 (talk) 10:34, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
 * The only thing that you can do now is provide evidence that the reviewer grossly erred or violated policy, neither of which I think is the case- or show that the situation has changed since the rejection. If you can't show that, there's nothing more you can do other than revisit it when the situation changes(sources arrive in the future showing notability). 331dot (talk) 10:53, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Dear 331d0t, i am not looking at other bcz while showing other's error you waste your time and work is still stuck. if you want to look at edits from 2022 Feb onwards many improvements are there, direct mentions are also there but failing what sort of mentions you are requiring? agree on passing mentions but how about the direct one? if someone will check thoroughly you get idea of what i am writing and trying to convey. You need prominent mentions i am not sure your country is having news paper times of india economic times divya bhaskar. Business related sourcing partner DeBeers but reviewers not finding it write.
 * Thus, here i sought for help which can help me to improve more on this article. and shift it to main space of article. i have seen many articles they have more marketing content or as similar as my draft they have content, website ref are same issue is they have regular article. here i am not able to generate that hurts. i not blaming other or doubting others but unable to understand the POV. Brakshit23 (talk) 11:44, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

i am now updated references for the given Draft article & few changes on draft. For notability as well made changes. Please have a look. Brakshit23 (talk) 11:03, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I've consolidated your post to here- please do not make additional sections and edit this existing section. Please read other stuff exists- the existence of other similar content does not mean that yours is permitted. It could be that this other content is also inappropriate. As this is a volunteer effort where people do what they can when they can, it is possible for inappropriate content to get by us. There are many ways that could happen.  We can only address what we know about- if you would like to help out, feel free to identify this other marketing content you have seen for possible action. We could use the help.
 * Your changes are insufficient to establish notability. Again, the draft was rejected and will not be considered any more. 331dot (talk) 11:09, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

07:32:09, 2 August 2022 review of submission by Montecampo
I am wondering why the draft was declined. Pointers to improve the draft are appreciated. :)

Montecampo (talk) 07:32, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
 * The "Early life and education" section is entirely unsourced. Theroadislong (talk) 08:12, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
 * @Montecampo: did you read the decline note? It's saying that there is too much content which is unsupported by referencing; for example, the entire 'Early life and education' section hasn't a single cite. Please see WP:BLP for advice on referencing articles on living people. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:13, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

13:43:44, 2 August 2022 review of submission by Strawberrytsunami
Can you let me know a few examples of sentences that aren't neutral in tone? Is there anything you'd expect to see on a page like this that would help it meet notability guidelines?

Thank you in advance!

Strawberrytsunami (talk) 13:43, 2 August 2022 (UTC)


 * @Strawberrytsunami I wonder if the purpose of article is just to say the f-word several times... 71.228.112.175 (talk) 06:06, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

13:49:35, 2 August 2022 review of submission by Wahab98
this article follows all the guideline and provided enough independent sources can you please elaborate reason for rejection? Wahab98 (talk) 13:49, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

i have updated as well but unable to submit again kindly help

Wahab98 (talk) 13:55, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Your drafts have been rejected and will not be considered further. Upcoming films generally do not merit articles. See the notability criteria for films. I suggest that you wait until the film is released, or you must show that there is something very unusual or noteworthy about the production itself (see Rust (suspended film) for an example). There doesn't seem to be. 331dot (talk) 14:08, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
 * and IMDb and Twitter are not reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 14:52, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Hey There, Thank you for your response can you please check this Chaudhry – The Martyr, when i compare this with UmroAyyar A New Beginning i believe there is more information and notability, i believe maybe i am lacking somewhere i can surely update links provided and confirm authenticity. Do suggest
 * TIA, Happy Writing Wahab98 (talk) 05:25, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
 * You cannot use the presence, absence, or condition of tangentially-related articles to argue for your own. —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 05:52, 3 August 2022 (UTC)