Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2022 August 23

= August 23 =

Draft:American Ringtail
can you make it a page? 174.27.3.169 (talk) 02:49, 23 August 2022 (UTC)


 * You have to wait for a reviewer to check the article for consideration into Wikipedia. The current wait is 4+ months, but it could be much sooner, or even later, depending on reviewer interest or random chance. — PerfectSoundWhatever  (t; c) 04:26, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

05:17:11, 23 August 2022 review of submission by Purplemontart
Hi, While I've made a few edits and things, I'm still new to actually creating articles, and hadn't realised that AfC was an optional process and that autoconfirmed users can move articles from drafts. Is there a way to remove the submitted draft from the AfC process, so I can move it to mainspace, or is it best to just wait for a review?

Purplemontart (talk) 05:17, 23 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @Purplemontart: I would argue that it is best to wait for a review. Assuming your draft passes the review and is accepted for publication, its chances of 'surviving in the wild' are much greater. You can of course just remove the AfC tags and release it, but if it's not yet ready, the new page patrol or anyone else who come across it may nominate it for deletion or just send it back to drafts. Your call. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:37, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi @DoubleGrazing: Not a problem, I may as well wait, it's my first submitted article after all. Thanks for the info. Purplemontart (talk) 05:39, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

08:51:47, 23 August 2022 review of submission by Newspersonnow
hi there, i need help as im trying to add a public figure and writer to wikipedia, but i dont think im doing correctly. can you help pls?

Newspersonnow (talk) 08:51, 23 August 2022 (UTC)


 * (presumably this is what you mean?) -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:05, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
 * @Newspersonnow: this draft is just promo blurb, and the two websites listed (not cited) do nothing to establish notability; I'm surprised this wasn't speedily deleted on sight.
 * If you want to try again, see WP:YFA for advice, and ensure that the sources cited clearly demonstrate notability per WP:GNG. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:08, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

10:04:55, 23 August 2022 review of draft by Clef le Tete
I am requesting advice on why an entry I submitted on the Number 1 bestselling author, playwright, TV historian and BBC TV scriptwriter Damian Corless has been rejected on grounds of a lack of "notability". It seems odd. It would be gratefully appreciated if you can help with specific suggestions. Thanks, Clef.

Clef le Tete (talk) 10:04, 23 August 2022 (UTC)


 * @Clef le Tete: the first thing to say is, this review was carried out by a user who wasn't an approved AfC reviewer, and is now blocked. You can resubmit the draft and get a new review. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:25, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I will, however, also say that being "the Number 1 bestselling author" etc. doesn't in and of itself make anyone notable in Wikipedia terms. That may make this person 'important' or 'famous' etc., but that isn't what we're looking for. What we need to see is coverage of the person/subject in multiple independent and reliable secondary sources, per WP:GNG.
 * And on that point, I must mention that the way the references are provided makes it virtually impossible for anyone to verify most of them. Please see WP:REFB for advice on how to reference, using inline citations and footnote sources correctly. Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:30, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for getting back so quickly DoubleGrazing. Very much appreciated. A problem with verifying many sources is that Damian began his writing career 40 years ago and lots of pertinent sources are in print in places like the Ireland's National Library but not online. Thanks again. I will check out Wikipedia's referencing advice page and resubmit the draft. Clef le Tete (talk) 11:40, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Sources don't have to be online, as long as they otherwise meet the relevant criteria. But when citing offline sources, you have to provide full information, incl. publication details, page and volume numbers, etc., so that the sources can be verified. This is where the current references fall short. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:57, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

18:03:34, 23 August 2022 review of draft by Qabilab.bureha
Review this Draft : Yash Kumar Talan

Qabilab.bureha (talk) 18:03, 23 August 2022 (UTC)


 * @Qabilab.bureha this draft is in the process of being speedily deleted. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:15, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

21:29:03, 23 August 2022 review of draft by Selma232
Hi I am new to editing and I loved this play thats why I thought to add it to Wikipedia as good reviews online.

Selma232 (talk) 21:29, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

22:59:13, 23 August 2022 review of draft by Samsam464

 * Why are you submitting a blank sandbox? (I've also taken the liberty of removing an unclosed template you left out in this request.) —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 23:07, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

23:19:13, 23 August 2022 review of submission by Samsam464
I want to fix the problems of this page, which is about the personal biography of the athlete and hero in my country — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samsam464 (talk • contribs) 23:19, 23 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Samsam464, unfortunately, Wikipedia and Wikidata aren't allowed in Wikipedia articles as sources because that would be circular referencing. I would recommend you add more reliable sources to the draft to get it accepted. Thanks! Weeklyd3 (talk) 23:23, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Related: Verifiability. Weeklyd3 (talk) 23:29, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Alongside what Weeklyd3 has said above, Mandy.com is not an acceptable source (and the link proffered redirects to a login page) and https://www.fis-ski.com/DB/general/athlete-biography.html?sectorcode=AL&competitorid=https%3A//www.fis-ski.com/DB/general/athlete-biography.html%3Fsector%3DAL%26competitorid%3D28774%26type%3Dresult is useless for notability (too sparse). —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 01:03, 24 August 2022 (UTC)