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= August 27 =

04:45:55, 27 August 2022 review of draft by Stanleyvhayley
I keep having my references rejected when they appear to meet the criteria as outlined in the advice for referencing. All of the references substantially reference the artist and in many cases, are solely about the artist, but yet are rejected.

I have checked other articles and the piece is purely factual and is well referenced, but yet is rejected. Why?

Stanleyvhayley (talk) 04:45, 27 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Why are this and this the references for the statements regarding youngest TED speaker in the article lead? They are completely unrelated to the subject at hand and to the statements they are associated with.  There's also no inline citations that support the information in the "Early Life" and "Personal Life" sections. Uhai (talk &middot; contribs) 04:59, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Saw that, for some reason the links took you somewhere else completely! I've now fixed and updated the changes. Stanleyvhayley (talk) 00:13, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
 * @Stanleyvhayley: as Uhai mentions, the 'Early life' and 'Personal life' sections are completely unreferenced, as is the DOB; this is unacceptable in an article on a living person, especially a minor. There are also a few other unreferenced paragraphs, plus you're citing IMDb as a source on a couple of occasions (IMDb is user-generated, and therefore not considered reliable). -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:09, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the advice! I've removed some of the items that cannot be verified, such as IMDB (although IMDB does have to have approval for production companies for credits, to my understanding), but I've removed them anyway.
 * I've also added my reference for the personal life information which I'd forgotten to add!
 * Thank you. Stanleyvhayley (talk) 00:13, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

23:58:04, 27 August 2022 review of draft by Annonymoustipper
Good Evening Sir/Ma'am, I was contacting you to see why my article was declined. Moreover, if you could help me solve the problem that would be very appreciated and I am listening on any action or steps I have to take. Thank you for your precious time. Annonymoustipper (talk) 23:58, 27 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Aside from the copyright violation you made when uploading a clearly copyrighted image, the entire tone of the article is promotional. His tracks have been loved by music aficionados all across the globe and have earned him uncountable views and streams across all major platform. is a prime example. Also, several of the sources are obviously from pay for coverage sites. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:27, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Refer to User:Jéské Couriano/Decode:
 * We can't use https://newjerseytimes.us/yung-dub-d/ (unknown provenance). When a site's "About us" is almost literally lorem ipsum, that's a pretty clear indication it's black-hat SEO.
 * We can't use https://singersroom.com/content/2022-01-08/yung-dub-b-releases-new-single-hush/ (unknown provenance). Role byline, and Singersroom as a source has no editorial oversight.
 * We can't use https://todaynews24.top/yung-dub-d-emerging-as-one-of-the-finest-musical-talents-across-america/ (unknown provenance). Role byline. I also can't find a staff listing or editorial policy.
 * We can't use https://newslivetv.com/introducing-yung-dub-d-a-rising-hip-hop-artist-and-rapper-well-known-for-his-beat-making/ (unknown provenance). Yet another role byline.
 * We can't use https://readabiography.com/yung-dub-d-hip-hop-artist-wiki-biography-age-girlfriend-family-facts-and-more/ (No editorial oversight). This appears to be a wiki and has some pretty damn obvious "blind idiot" translation that gives the impression this was not subjected to an editorial process.
 * We can't use https://hiphopweekly.com/find-out-all-about-yung-dub-d-the-latest-rap-sensation/ (unknown provenance). Yet another role byline.
 * https://www.billboardhiphop.com/2022/01/who-is-yung-dub-d is 404-compliant.
 * We can't use Medium (no editorial oversight). This is also credited to yet another role byline.
 * We can't use https://tricitydaily.com/yung-dub-d-is-back-to-rock-the-music-world-with-a-new-album-on-17th-september/ (no editorial oversight). Tricity Daily is a known black-hat SEO outlet.
 * We can't use https://24hip-hop.com/yung-dub-ds-biography-his-age-music/ (unknown provenance). Yet another fucking role byline. The reason we don't generally accept articles written under role bylines is because they're mainly used to publish crap the outlet's actual journalists did not write or to mask the actual origin of a "news" article, and it's a particularly disgusting SEO trick that damages the reputation of the outlet for publicity.
 * We can't use http://www.hiphopondeck.com/2021/12/vinnie-bones-yung-dub-d-codes-video.html (unknown provenance). Yet another fucking role byline.
 * We can't use https://thesource.com/2021/05/25/on-the-rise-dallas-yung-dub-d/ (no editorial oversight). The Source is known to have serious issues with regard to its editorial oversight and overall credibility nowadays.
 * We can't use https://seattledailypost.com/introducing-yung-dub-d-whose-amazing-skills-has-gone-ahead-in-creating-his-unique-niche-in-the-music-game-as-unique-as-his-name/ (Unknown provenance). Yet another fucking role byline, yet another black hat SEO source. (For the record, the Times, Post-Intelligencer, Everett Herald, and  News Tribune are the main newspapers of record in the Puget Sound area. This isn't even close to a convincing ripoff.)
 * We can't use https://thelosangelestribune.com/2020/10/23/supremely-talented-rapper-yung-dub-d-challenges-conventional-thematic-norms-in-his-inspiring-mv-in-my-head/ (no editorial oversight). Yet another fucking black hat SEO source; the modern-day Los Angeles Tribune has no connexion what-so-ever to any of the newspapers that used the name.
 * Your sources are all patently obvious black-hat SEO. Nothing here is citable. —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 00:49, 28 August 2022 (UTC)