Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2022 August 8

= August 8 =

02:27:52, 8 August 2022 review of submission by SamanthaCola
I'm not sure why my page is being declined due to lack of notability. The musician has collaborated with other artists with similar catalogs that all currently have wikipedia pages (which I linked to) and he was part of a national copywrite lawsuit with Warner Bros, which I also cited. Thank you for your help! 184.178.79.151 (talk) 02:27, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * A musician is not notable because they associate with other musicians that have articles(not "pages"). For a standalone article about this musician, you must show that they themselves meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable musician. 331dot (talk) 08:14, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Request on 02:52:25, 8 August 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Trit6611
Hello,

My draft got rejected again for insufficient notability. However, I believe that I have fixed the first reviewer's request for proof of the use of the term "disease modifying treatments", "disease modifying therapies", or any other variations of that term by adding eight more examples of the use of that term beyond the scope of "disease-modifying antirheumatic drugs." These other examples included secondary source references of the "disease modifying treatments" term being used in various other medical literature such as HIV/AIDS, ischemic heart disease, and numerous neurological conditions that are beyond the scope of rheumatoid arthritis and have treatment classes beyond the scope of disease-modifying antirheumatic drugs. Therefore, I was wondering if I could get more guidance on what more I could do to make the article notable enough to be approved. Thank you very much for your help and time!

Best regards, --Trit6611 (talk) 02:52, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Trit6611 (talk) 02:52, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * There is nothing that you can do- this is why the draft was rejected, which means that it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 08:12, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

04:40:14, 8 August 2022 review of submission by Bennair
'''I specifically fail to understand why this page is being rejected and considered as promotional. This page is about Union Coop, which happens to be one of the largest Consumer Cooperatives in the UAE today and is prevalent among the Emirati community in Dubai specifically. I will really be thankful if the moderator could point out specific CONTENT which is going against Wiki policy. Thank you for your time and Kind Regards,''' Bennair (talk) 04:40, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * The entire draft is promotional. Wikipedia is not a place to merely tell about something and what it does(such as, among other things, listing its press releases).  A Wikipedia article must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the topic, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of notability- in this case, the definition of a notable organization. The sources you offered are entirely announcements of routine business activities, which does not establish notability. 331dot (talk) 08:11, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

13:31:04, 8 August 2022 review of draft by 116.74.136.209
116.74.136.209 (talk) 13:31, 8 August 2022 (UTC)


 * What is your question? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:39, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Draft declined as there's been no improvement. Suggested they log in to their account. Star   Mississippi  18:29, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

18:38:27, 8 August 2022 review of submission by Dcontu
Dear Wikipedia Team,

We have revised our article following the values and ethos of Wikipedia.

Could you please review it?

Thank you, Dimitris

Dcontu (talk) 18:38, 8 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Who is we, @Dcontu? PRAXIDICAE🌈 18:40, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * @Dcontu Not a formal review, per se, but all the same I'd say TRIL's earlier rejection still stands. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:44, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * One of the "values and ethos" of Wikipedia is not plagiarising content. Another is writing descriptively and neutrally, rather than this advertizement/proselytising you've written. —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 18:46, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

19:39:24, 8 August 2022 review of draft by Notadean
Hi - this if my first submitted article and I'm actually not sure what I/we can do to convince the reviewer that the topic is appropriate for Wikipedia. There are numerous newspaper articles, including both local coverage and US-national news coverage, of the events discussed and outlined in the draft article, including both factual primary and secondary review/opinion articles. The article itself provides the history of an important academic program at one of of the two major universities in Montana, from it's creation in 2000 to it's dissolution in 2019. Over that period, the program trained thousands of students and performed nationally and internationally recognized biomedical research in the area of Neuroscience. In addition, the program was the first Neuroscience training program (undergraduate and graduate level) in the state of Montana, making it an historically important program.

I'm glad to take a stab at revising, but really not sure where to start -- any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Notadean (talk) 19:39, 8 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Hey @Notadean! The first thing I notice while looking at the draft is that there are a lot of completely unsourced paragraphs. For example, the history section doesn't have any references. In general, you should try to make sure that at least every paragraph has an inline citation that supports it.
 * You can also try to look at similar articles to see how they are laid out. If you look at Department of Journalism, City University and Department of Law, University of Calcutta, you can see they are much shorter and just summarize the information. >>> Ingenuity . talk ; 19:52, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I would gently suggest that when you advise someone to look at other articles as a model, that you suggest they use those classified as good articles, to reduce the odds they will pick one that is not a good example. 331dot (talk) 20:00, 8 August 2022 (UTC)


 * (ec) A Wikipedia article about a university department should summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about it, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable organization. It sounds like it could be notable, so you are partway there, but the sources and article content are the issue. Most of your sources seem to be either primary sources, which do not establish notability, or news reports that mention the department. What are your three best non primary sources?
 * The list of faculty plus their brief bios should be removed. 331dot (talk) 20:00, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

22:47:30, 8 August 2022 review of submission by Dazaew26h
Dazaew26h (talk) 22:47, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Michael De Santa (GTA V character)

Dazaew26h (talk) 22:47, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Draft:Michael De Santa (GTA V character) has been declined twice for lack of valid references. David notMD (talk) 03:46, 9 August 2022 (UTC)