Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2022 August 9

= August 9 =

00:56:48, 9 August 2022 review of submission by Joshua Grech
Hello reviewer, I am trying to submit my article 'Rolling Line' article for creation however I am having trouble with its acceptance due to lack of 'reliable sources'. This is not my first time publishing articles for Wikipedia as I have successfully published the article: 'Burnett_railway_bridge' however the article 'Rolling Line' article is about a video game which has different types of sources.

I have attempted to use secondary sources to achieve a neutral point of view, although due to the nature of the topic (being a video game) most sources would appear as if they were a promotion of the game. In spite of that, I had tried to use articles which would give feedback in both the pros and cons about the game. I had only referred to primary sources when regarding the development of the game and gameplay elements.

Please let me know how I can resolve this problem and perhaps which articles would be the best for citing. Cheers

Joshua Grech (talk) 00:56, 9 August 2022 (UTC)


 * @Joshua Grech: if you cannot find suitable sources to satisfy the WP:GNG notability standard, then you cannot publish an article on this topic, it really is that simple. (Okay, yes, there are some exceptional topics that are considered inherently notable, but alas video games isn't one of them.) -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:47, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

01:28:30, 9 August 2022 review of submission by Jacckkis
Pedroedugz I published an article twice but it keeps getting declined. I have followed all the criteria needed for drafting an article. Why does it keep getting declined?

Lucynder (talk) 07:40, 9 August 2022 (UTC)


 * @Lucynder: three of your sources don't work, one is used twice (as in, with a duplicate rather than named cite), one talks about the issue of human trafficking rather than the film, and the YouTube trailer is meaningless in what comes to supporting the draft; this leaves basically just one valid source, which is not enough to establish notability. And given the problems with some of the sources, this also means that much of the content cannot be verified. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:04, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
 * How do I delete the duplicate of the first article (the duplicated one)? Can the sources (references) that do not work be highlighted? Lucynder (talk) 08:16, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I have highlighted the non-working ones, marking them as failed (this shows up in the text, right after the source is cited, rather than in the References section).
 * You don't need to delete the duplicate source, I was just making the point that there is one less source cited than what is listed in the References. If you want to use named references, see WP:NAMEDREFS. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:32, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

10:21:55, 9 August 2022 review of draft by Craftronics365
why my article is deleting

Craftronics365 (talk) 10:21, 9 August 2022 (UTC)


 * (User indeffed.) -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:42, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

18:48:33, 9 August 2022 review of submission by Livitshiro
I am wondering why the page was rejected, I am aware that the sources are fairly exclusive to the esport it belongs to but that is because they are the most relevant references and since all of his teammates have their own pages I think it should be accepted but if it's not I can work with more specific examples of what is wrong so that I may add or adjust as needed. Livitshiro (talk) 18:48, 9 August 2022 (UTC)


 * @Livitshiro: the problem with niche publications is that they (perhaps understandably) think everything in their space, in this case esports, is newsworthy; they also tend to accept a lot of press releases and other marketing material, without applying any real journalistic judgement. Furthermore, many of the sources cited in this draft are primary, and don't contribute to notability in any case.
 * The whole thing is also very promotional in nature, and quite informal in tone, and could IMO just as well have been declined for those reasons. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:47, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

Request on 20:42:59, 9 August 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Rehanakhan1094
Rehanakhan1094 (talk) 20:42, 9 August 2022 (UTC)


 * What is your question, @Rehanakhan1094? The draft has been rejected and won't be considered further, as the subject is evidently non-notable. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:16, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

20:58:51, 9 August 2022 review of submission by WarMagician
I'm seeking advice on how to get this page published. I have limited the page to the bare minimum to constitute a page. All of the sections are factually accurate, and I've included citations to external sources to back these up (such as Companies House details, Times Educational Supplement articles, government website list awards status, etc). I've avoided any language which would constitute an advertisement. Could I trouble a reviewer to advise on what I should do to get this one over the line. Any help gratefully received!

James

WarMagician (talk) 20:58, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
 * The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. No amount of editing can confer notability on a topic. Wikipedia is not a place to merely tell about an organization and what it does. Any article about an organization must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the organization, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable organization. A small number of high quality sources is preferable to a large number of low quality sources. The reviewer rejected the draft because they think the changes of establishing notability are low.
 * If you are associated with this organization, please read WP:COI and WP:PAID for information on required formal disclosures. 331dot (talk) 21:55, 9 August 2022 (UTC)