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= December 9 =

11:48:58, 9 December 2022 review of submission by Lyla shaanvi
Dear Bonadea, Hi, this is Lyla shaanvi. I am here to state that Aditya Ram and Adityaram is the same person who is a popular Telugu Film producer. The same person's profile updated in Google and other sources in two different names, out of which someone deleted Wikipedia page that falls under the name tag of “Aditya Ram”. After the deletion of Wikipedia page (Aditya Ram), another one (Adityaram) was in public use for more than eight months. Now that page is also disabled, I wish to tell you that, I just inspired and analyzed some aspects of him, and I have used google, news, articles to refer to the person to write this content uniquely. No duplication, promotional, or violent content takes place in the article, and the content is completely related to the business person Adityaram. I just referred to different kinds of articles, blogs, and other sources to know about him to write the article as per your guidelines. However, the reference sources and the links added to the page are also related to Adityaram, which are unique and placed as per your guidelines. Hence, I have tried a lot of times to update the Wikipedia page in the name of Adityaram with a different unique set of content, links, and unique reference sources, but the page is continuously rejected/declined. To overcome that issue, I humbly request that May I know the reason for the rejection of the page, or else please guide me to update or recover the page or support me in recovering the page with your guidelines… I need your help to get that page back for proper usage. Can that page be used again in the name of Adityaram? Kindly guide me… Thanks.

Lyla shaanvi (talk) 11:48, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
 * If you want to communicate with Bonadea, please do so directly on their user talk page. 331dot (talk) 12:30, 9 December 2022 (UTC)


 * No, there can not be an article about Aditya Ram / Adityaram. Please do not create any more drafts or articles about him. --bonadea contributions talk 12:45, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
 * (here is why) --bonadea contributions talk 13:31, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

15:09:58, 9 December 2022 review of draft by PLBounds
I submitted the page on the IT'IS Foundation for review in September and have been occasionally tweaking the text while waiting for review. I have been using wikilinks wherever possible, but I am confused about how to link text to online pages external to wikipedia. What is best practice? Full disclosure: I am employed by the IT'IS Foundation. I submitted the draft to my employer and a co-worker for their input before submitting to wikipedia for review. I am aware of wikipedia's policies regarding self-promotion and have tried to write accordingly, sticking only to the facts -- the text tweaks have been mainly to tone down language that might have been perceived thus. I am currently drafting other articles about sister organizations and would like to get the linking procedure right.

PLBounds (talk) 15:09, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Your draft is just blatant advertising and stuffed with inappropriate spam external links. We don't use any external links in the body of an article. Theroadislong (talk) 15:18, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback. This is my first article, and I was confused about how to include external links. I disagree with the "blatant advertising" label. I will edit to remove all external links and resubmit. PLBounds (talk) 15:36, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Part of the problem is that the article appears to be based on what you know, rather than on what independent sources have reported. Wikipedia is not a place to merely tell about something, Wikipedia summarises what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a topic, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of notability. Theroadislong (talk) 15:50, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @PLBounds: the best practice is not to include inline external links in body text; these should only be listed in the appendices, especially in the 'External links' section. Please remove all the inline external links you have included. Thanks, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:19, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback. This is my first article, and I was confused about how to include external links intended as support for the cited text. I will edit to remove all external links and resubmit. PLBounds (talk) 15:38, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
 * The easiest way (IMO) to structure citations correctly is to use the RefToolbar and the cite templates. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:43, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @PLBounds On your talk page, you'll see this:  "Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established."   On your talk page, the words in blue are clickable links.    Also, Theroadislong gave a link to "reliable sources" here in this thread.  Please read all of that (it's a lot).
 * Then, gather reliable sources first. Second, write the draft using only the information that you find in those sources (paraphrasing,  not directly copying). Hope this helps. David10244 (talk) 03:25, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

15:18:58, 9 December 2022 review of draft by EinavShoshan
Could you please clarify what are the required changes in order that the page will be accepted? it keeps getting rejected and I don't understand why. I have addressed all the required citations. EinavShoshan (talk) 15:18, 9 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @EinavShoshan: A lot of the article's claims are still unsourced. This is not acceptable. For articles like this we cannot just accept a reference at the end of a paragraph which makes 20 separate claims; you need to have a source at each and every claim. —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 15:23, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @EinavShoshan: this draft has a number of issues, but the most striking one, and the reason why it has been declined (not 'rejected') is that far too much of the content is unsupported by referencing. Especially in articles on living people (WP:BLP), you need to ensure that anything potentially contentious, as well as anything of private nature, is clearly supported by inline citations to reliable published sources. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:23, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

15:42:37, 9 December 2022 review of submission by Dapig2242
He is a great actor and well respected YouTuber, and he is also a good person.

Dapig2242 (talk) 15:42, 9 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @Dapig2242: you don't ask a question, but this draft has been rejected and won't be considered further. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:58, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

16:18:57, 9 December 2022 review of draft by 49.237.6.25
49.237.6.25 (talk) 16:18, 9 December 2022 (UTC)


 * What is your question? The draft hasn't been submitted, in case you're wondering. (You need to click on that blue 'submit' button.) -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:54, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Request on 17:58:53, 9 December 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Orincore
Orincore (talk) 17:58, 9 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @Orincore: having submitted that draft, you still want to ask a question? Alright, go on then. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:07, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I would kinda like to see that draft.  Not that it would be appropriate for Wikipedia,  but I'm sure it's entertaining. David10244 (talk) 22:28, 10 December 2022 (UTC)