Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2022 January 11

= January 11 =

02:07:53, 11 January 2022 review of submission by 2600:1702:42F0:2D40:E851:2CBB:B20D:BDC4
BRO PLEASE JUST ACCEPT IT IM 16 TRYNA MAKE IT I HAVE NO PARENTS I LOST THEM IN A CAR ACCIDENT PLEASEE

2600:1702:42F0:2D40:E851:2CBB:B20D:BDC4 (talk) 02:07, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
 * We don't accept promotional copy. Please find somewhere else to promote yourself. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 03:14, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

02:23:41, 11 January 2022 review of draft by Floyd Heywood
Hi. I removed a reference to Discogs because you said it was not reliable. How can I tell if this has been reviewed and where the submission stands in the editing process?

Floyd Heywood (talk) 02:23, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello, . Your draft consistently refers to the subject as "Rob", contrary to WP:SURNAME, which says that a person should be referred to by their full name at first mention, and then by their surname after that. There are limited exceptions that do not apply here. So, he should be called "Crocker" not "Rob". References to the WGBO website are of no use in establishing his notability, because independent sources are required, because he works there. Your main claim to notability is a "longest serving" assertion in the first sentence that is referenced to his radio station. This is not cool and not acceptable. Your "Europe" section is entirely unreferenced and that is also unacceptable, because Wikipedia articles summarize what reliable, independent sources say about a topic, rather than what individual Wikipedia editors believe to be true. Cullen328 (talk) 03:37, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi . The draft is in the pool to be reviewed. When it is reviewed, you will receive a notice on your talk page. If the draft is declined or rejected, that will also be noted prominently at the top of the draft. In addition to Cullen328's comments, I see several significant problems. You write that you removed a reference to discogs.org, but there are still two more in the "Producer" section. You may not grasp the purpose of citing sources. When you make a statement like "[Crocker] served two tours in Viet Nam in the Central Highlands with the 25th Infantry Division and the 155th Assault Helicopter Company", you need to support the whole statement. Citing sources saying that those units were in Viet Nam during the war does no good because they don't say that Crocker served two tours in those units at that time. By far the biggest problem is that none of the sources you've cited are both independent and contain significant coverage (more than a few sentences) about Crocker. In-depth independent sources are required to demonstrate notability (suitability for inclusion in the encyclopedia). --Worldbruce (talk) 04:08, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Request on 03:45:52, 11 January 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by NHArch
Hello - This is my first page so pls be gentle :)

I've tried to add a company page and link it to other pages that mention the work we have done. As per the instructions I have tried to make the languange as factual as possible, without soundling like I'm trying to sell something.

I'd be grateful if you could give me some help in structuring the wording so that it fits the wiki standards.

Thanks

NHArch (talk) 03:45, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

07:29:03, 11 January 2022 review of submission by Gs12108
Why my page was deleted without no clear reason. I didn't create a page on me i create on a SINGER whose Wikipedia page was not made. So, Kindly tell me the reason and if you want to delete the page at least don't delete it for me so that i can improve my mistake. Plz after understanding my problem take a valid action on my problem. Gs12108 (talk) 07:29, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

09:18:21, 11 January 2022 review of submission by Tnatsnok
Hi. I'm trying to add the paid contributor template to the draft, but it seems to be non-editable.

Also, I'm not sure how to improve the style to be "less like an advertisement" as it's written factually - of course I might be wrong, which is why I'm asking for help.

A Thai-based crypto exchange called "Bitkub" has a wikipedia entry. I've looked at the style and sources, and I can't see the difference, to be honest.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Tnatsnok (talk) 09:18, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
 * The disclosure should mainly be placed on your user page, User:Tnatsnok. Please read other stuff exists; other inappropriate articles existing does not mean that yours can too. Otherwise, nothing could ever be removed from Wikipedia.  As this is a volunteer project where people do what they can when they can, it is possible for inappropriate articles to get by us.  We can only address what we know about.  If you want to use other articles as a model, make sure you use ones that are classified as Good Articles.
 * You have chosen to edit in a contentious area, which has its own special rules due to past disruption; Wikipedia has been flooded with cryptocurrency related articles, most of which are not notable and take valuable time away from other editors who must address that. I will notify you of these rules in a moment.
 * Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and not a place for companies or organizations to tell the world about themselves. As an encyclopedia, articles must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage, and not based on any primary source material- have chosen on their own to say about(in this case) a company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable company.  Wikipedia is not interested in what a company wants to say about itself; that is what social media is for.  Most if not all of the sources you offer merely report the activities of the company like the raising of capital; this does not establish notability.  Please read Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 10:30, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Request on 10:03:54, 11 January 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Bo6dan at heyworld
Hello,

I am kindly requesting help from any of you, as this draft keep on being rejected. The last comment from a volunteer who rejected this draft is unfair. The article is now written from a neutral perspective and I have added all the references we have on hand now.

Thank you very much.

Bo6dan at heyworld (talk) 10:03, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for making the required disclosure. I'm afraid that, like many company representatives, you have a fundamental misunderstanding as to what Wikipedia is.  Wikipedia is not a place for companies to tell the world about themselves and what they do, and where mere existence merits inclusion.  This is an encyclopedia with criteria for inclusion. A Wikipedia article about a company must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage- and not based on primary source materials or the mere reporting of company activities- have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia defintion of a notable company.  Wikipedia is not interested in what a company wants to say about itself, only in what others completely unconnected with the company have said about it.  The sources you have offered merely tell what the company does, this is not significant coverage. If this type of source is all that there is, the company would not merit an article.  It is possible that it could warrant a smaller mention at Lufthansa Cargo.
 * I will add that the rules on the English Wikipedia are different than those on the German Wikipedia, and what is acceptable on the German Wikipedia is not necessarily acceptable on the English Wikipedia. 331dot (talk) 10:22, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

331dot (talk) Thank you very much for your kind reply. However, I still consider this unfair. I guided myself after time:matters page, a sister company of ours. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time:matters ... their references should also be considered presses releases in this case, one of the rejection reasons I was given by another user. I would insist on reconsidering, as it would not make sense right now to add a smaller section about us on Lufthansa Cargo page. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bo6dan at heyworld (talk • contribs) 10:35, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
 * The time:matters article has the exact same problems as your draft, so it was a poor guide to use(I apologize for being frank with you). You say that you added all the sources that are available- if that is the case, the company does not merit an article at this time. You may resubmit it if there are independent reliable sources with significant coverage- however you indicate that you added all available sources. 331dot (talk) 10:43, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

331dot (talk) Thank you for your comment - it is much appreciated. Please, in this case, reconsider and publish our draft as a subsection in the Lufthansa Cargo page, as our activity is related to theirs. Of course, I can do it, but I kindly ask for your guidance. Thank you very much, I appreciate your effort. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bo6dan at heyworld (talk • contribs) 11:03, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Please visit Talk:Lufthansa Cargo and propose an edit request(click for instructions), detailing the addition you wish to make. My suggestion would be to not merely propose what you wrote in the draft, but simply the best sourced content that you have. 331dot (talk) 11:06, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

331dot (talk) Thank you very much, I will do so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bo6dan at heyworld (talk • contribs) 11:09, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

10:59:57, 11 January 2022 review of submission by Dubbalgurdeep
Dubbalgurdeep (talk) 10:59, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
 * You don't ask a question, but Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell the world about themselves, please read the autobiography policy. 331dot (talk) 11:01, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

14:18:52, 11 January 2022 review of draft by 2402:3A80:6D9:EEC5:8A:525B:88CB:3598
The actress seems to comply WP:ENT now, please re-review. Thanks. 2402:3A80:6D9:EEC5:8A:525B:88CB:3598 (talk) 14:18, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

14:54:44, 11 January 2022 review of draft by JohnMoss67
Hello David Thanks for your helpful comments, I am learning the ropes here on Wikipedia. It's not easy, but actually quite enjoyable.. The person I am creating a wiki site for is a working, clinical hospital doctor in palliative and hospice care. His Professor title with the University is on a teaching and speaker basis mainly (yes, some research and publications, too, but it is more of a brief to improve understanding about end of life care issues for the general public). One of the reasons to create a Wikipedia profile is just that, to get more palliative care nurses, doctors and even social workers into prominent, wider societal discussion of what to look out for in terminal illness and last months/years of life. Yes, the References do indeed contain book chapter references. If the citation rule is that strict then Perhaps it is better if, as you suggested, "WP:GNG" is a better starting point. Am happy to edit and change if someone were kind enough to critique it against this standard, rather than the WP:Prof one. Should i delete it all and resubmit? I am not sure how to submit it as WP:GNG. In many ways, in a small specialty like palliative care, most influential workers will not get to such a high citation count as those who are more laboratory based, however the work is not really diminished and still highly relevant. Some of the patient testimonials that have been published about palliative care. thank you for your time, JM JohnMoss67 (talk) 14:54, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I made some minor syntax and formatting improvements to the draft. I think the speaker engagement section is overkill - if you can only source a speaking engagement to a program guide, that's not notable. TED talks are notable - was Taubert's covered in the media? It should be something that was notable enough that it was covered by the media. And I agree with DGG that he doesn't meet WP:SCHOLAR due to the limited citations, but do believe that the other items including the notability for the Bowie letter and his efforts to raise awareness of palliative care are promising in terms of noteworthiness. Each item by itself wouldn't be enough, but all together they may be enough. At this point you should tighten the sourcing by drawing focus to the best media coverage of him, and less to third party (non-media) sources. TechnoTalk (talk) 19:03, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

15:14:35, 11 January 2022 review of draft by Mehmet Üsküdarlı
Hello,

I am requesting for my draft "Zeynep Rade" to be deleted. The subject person in question of the article wishes for the articles' removal due to inaccuracies, consequently as the original creator I do not wish to see "Zeynep Rade" as a Wikitia link on search. I am unfamiliar with this platform as a result am forwarding this request to you.

If it may be of any help, I was previously in correspondance with a administrator called "KylieTastic".

Respectfully, Mehmet Andrew

Mehmet Üsküdarlı (talk) 15:14, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I have requested speedy deletion for you. Theroadislong (talk) 16:08, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
 * We have zero connexion to Wikitia. If you have issues with content Wikitia has mirrored, take it up with Wikitia. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 17:51, 11 January 2022 (UTC)