Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2022 January 12

= January 12 =

02:50:31, 12 January 2022 review of submission by XDataDoctorX
XDataDoctorX (talk) 02:50, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

There is no reason provided for rejection. Why is this page being rejected and can you tell me what is the basis for it?

Let me know if you need more details or info for the review.

XDataDoctorX (talk) 02:51, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Hey Goodwraith why are you rejecting a genuine page?

XDataDoctorX (talk) 03:05, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

What edit would you recommend?

04:53:50, 12 January 2022 review of submission by XDataDoctorX
XDataDoctorX (talk) 04:53, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

I have edited the information and made sure details provided reflect a neutral perspective and remain helpful for readers.

Please reconsider.
 * Article draft has been deleted for being unambiguous advertising or promotion. Please read WP:RS, WP:COI and WP:GNG. Also, please only post your questions once - it only adds more work for other editors to respond. TechnoTalk (talk) 18:28, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

08:03:57, 12 January 2022 review of submission by Lisajoer
I wrote an article about someone who is very notable in my country. The only problem is the interviews and media coverage that he has done don't have these copies online. Hence making it hard for me to add these sources. What can i do or how does the wikipedia community help with this. The notable person i wrote about is GeorDavie Kasambale from Tanzania. A country that does not have a tendency of having e-copies of media coverage in general. Can i please get help on this. Thank you!!

Lisajoer (talk) 08:03, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Draft:GeorDavie Moses Kasambale has been deleted [] as being unambiguous advertising. There's no way to overcome sourcing requirements. If someone is notable, someone will write about them - that's all there is to it. Otherwise this becomes another Facebook or TikTok. TechnoTalk (talk) 18:25, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

08:29:00, 12 January 2022 review of submission by 12.196.94.51
12.196.94.51 (talk) 08:29, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

UPDATED all references! Kale My Name is quite quite popular! Review please ! They should have a page!
 * The draft was rejected, meaning it will not be considered further. An article(not a "page") is not a way to honor something.  An article must summarize independent reliable sources showing how the topic is notable. 331dot (talk) 11:11, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

08:54:58, 12 January 2022 review of submission by Lisajoer
Can i add a forum page as a reference source. Lisajoer (talk) 08:54, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Article draft has been speedily deleted [] due to not showing the notability of the subject. To answer your question, forum pages are generally not considered reliable sources, since they are user generated. TechnoTalk (talk) 18:20, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

11:04:58, 12 January 2022 review of submission by Dadu1212
Dadu1212 (talk) 11:04, 12 January 2022 (UTC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arfius_Al-din that article should remove from deleation process and need to improvment. Please help to do that.
 * Please don't post the same issue multiple times. You'll have to discuss at the deletion discussion (see link below). TechnoTalk (talk) 18:16, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Request on 11:09:20, 12 January 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Dadu1212
Dadu1212 (talk) 11:09, 12 January 2022 (UTC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arfius_Al-din need help for improvement
 * Preexisting article Arfius Al-din has been nominated for deletion. Please discuss at the AfD page. Please also see WP:COI. TechnoTalk (talk) 18:09, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

11:42:31, 12 January 2022 review of draft by Vladdy Daddy Silly
is my article long enough? What do you think about the military template, do i need to improve it?

Vladdy Daddy Silly (talk) 11:42, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * It's long enough for an article, but not much more than a stub. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable about military history will help. TechnoTalk (talk) 18:10, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

11:55:35, 12 January 2022 review of draft by Hashusmani86
Hi. I am new to wikipedia and as per my councelor I need to help others to help myself. I am constantly making edits on wikipedia and now I have decided to make pages of people and companies of my country, Pakistan. ProPakistani is one of the news websites that I read and it was surprising for me to see that they don't have a wiki page. Now i have tried my level best to edit the page and the company itself is quite notable. I hope the submission is approved. Please let me know if i go wrong somewhere. Writing to seek guidance. I wish to create many pages of Pakistan because they should be there. I hope my journey is a healthy and fruitful one. Hashusmani86 (talk) 11:55, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia has articles, not "wiki pages". The Awards section describes things that the staff of this publisher did, and are not about the publisher itself. These do not establish the notability of the publisher. The mere fact that others cite this publisher also does not establish the notability of the publisher.  A Wikipedia article about a company must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable company.  It is insufficient to merely describe what the company does.  Please read Your First Article.
 * Is there any particular reason that you created a different account than the one you created the draft under? 331dot (talk) 12:04, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for correcting me for Wikipedia Articles. I hope to use the correct terminology moving forward. I see what you mean about the stark difference in achievements of the staff and the publisher itself. As said earlier, I seek guidance to edit, create and help the wikipedia community and play my minor role in that. I still haven't published the edits and this is my only account. When I started making the page for "ProPakistani" this draft was already there. So I'm making changes to it, whilst seeking your guidance, and hoping to submit it properly and accordingly — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hashusmani86 (talk • contribs) 12:24, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Your account has not actually edited the draft yet, according to your edit history, but you say that you did. This is why I thought you had another account.  If you do, or you have an association with the other account, please be honest about it. 331dot (talk) 12:27, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

I have been editing but I havent published the changes. Before publishing I reached out to you for guidance. So you won't be able to see any edits. I have absolutely no association or affiliation to any of the pages I have edited in the past, or the ones I'm trying to create. I do however seek your guidance. I have removed the awards section. Was that the only concern for this particular page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hashusmani86 (talk • contribs) 12:39, 12 January 2022 (UTC) As per your guidance, I have made alterations. I hope the current submission is correctly done. I hope the submission is in accordance to the wikipedia criteria of an article. Your feedback is required. I hope to be working on my second article for Pakistani company/person (notable) each day — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hashusmani86 (talk • contribs) 13:19, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * That helps, but the article now does little more than tell of the existence of the company. "92nd most visited website" is not really significant. You need to have signficant coverage of this company- independent reliable sources that do more than merely tell of the existence of the company or what it does. 331dot (talk) 14:33, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

> Sure. Let me gather some more information. Since this is my first article and I know that the organization is notable enough to have a wikipedia page, I'd like to find a bit more and resubmit. Thanks for all your support. Also, please feel free to let me know if there's an individual, an organization or a subject that requires an article from Pakistan and I'd love to contribute — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hashusmani86 (talk • contribs) 06:19, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Request on 14:21:00, 12 January 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Frankum62
John Burgess (record producer) I have tried to write a page for JOHN BURGESS British record producer and co owner of AIR STUDIOS with Sir George Martin, but my article has been declined many times. Please could somebody help me to get the page published. The subject is notable, as was a very well known individul in the record business during the 1960s onward with many credits to his name, so I think it is something I am doing incorrectly in my writing that is getting it rejected. Johns family and colleagues would be very grateful for any help. Thank you

Frankum62 (talk) 14:21, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * The good news is that reviewers think that this person is indeed notable, so you are halfway there with that. The main issues seem to be the sources offered. Please review the comments left by reviewers.  If the sourcing can be improved, it will likely be accepted.  I would start by simply summarizing the three best sources that you can find; that is all that is needed to pass the AFC process. Don't necessarily worry about any other content. 331dot (talk) 14:30, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

15:39:10, 12 January 2022 review of submission by PACchar
Hello I recently had a new entry declined for Plymouth Arts Cinema. The reason given was:

"This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia."

I created the page to differentiate from Plymouth Arts Centre. Plymouth Arts Centre has now closed but has a history worth keeping on Wikipedia I believe. The organisation is now an independent cinema only, Plymouth Arts Cinema, and is based at a different location. It is still making a cultural contribution to Plymouth. I attached an article from Plymouth Live about the move. The feedback mentioned more references. Is there anything you can suggest? More newspaper articles? Or mentions elsewhere on the web?

Thanks

--PACchar (talk) 15:39, 12 January 2022 (UTC) PACchar (talk) 15:39, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia articles about organizations summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage state about an organization, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable organization. You offer a single source; to pass this process there should be at least three independent sources summarized. I am curious as to why you don't simply edit the existing article, if the organization still technically exists? 331dot (talk) 16:27, 12 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, thanks that is very helpful. I would edit the existing page but I don't think I can change the name of the page, which would be essential. PACchar (talk) 16:35, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Changing the title requires a page move; you may request one at Requested Moves if the new name is the most common way your organization is referred to now(see WP:COMMONNAME); it isn't necessarily enough that it be the current name(though it may be in this case). As you have a conflict of interest, you should make an edit request(click for instructions) on the article talk page, detailing the changes you wish to make. An independent editor will review your request. 331dot (talk) 16:37, 12 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I have requested the name change and will request it to be edited when this is apporved PACchar (talk) 17:03, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

16:01:15, 12 January 2022 review of submission by Ak39720G
Dear Reviewer, Please help me understand why my draft was rejected? It is referenced and does not contain advertisement or promotional material as I am not affiliated with the company. The intention was to share information since I came across them on LinkedIn and found what they do interesting. Being relatively new to Wikipedia editing and articles, I ensured I only included information that was published by reputed news publications and cited everything accordingly. I am keen to understand how I may improve the article to meet Wiki guidelines. Thank you for your time, A Ak39720G (talk) 16:01, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Rejection means that the article cannot be improved. No amount of editing can confer notability on a topic. Wikipedia is not a place to merely share information or merely tell about a company and what they do.  The sources you offered describe routine business activities, which does not establish the notability of the company. Much of the draft tells about the staff of the company, which does not establish the notability of the company itself.
 * That's an unusual way to find topics to write about. Do you work in the financial tech industry? 331dot (talk) 16:24, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

19:59:18, 12 January 2022 review of draft by Geo1953
Geo1953 (talk) 19:59, 12 January 2022 (UTC) Regarding the article "Your submission at Articles for creation: Christoforos Krokidis (January 12)". Chtistoforos Krokidis has references in wikipedia in Ibanez where his name is pronounced as Christoforos Krokidis and in the article about Vassilis Papakonstantinou, where his name is pronounced Christophoros Krokides. I would like to ask your help 1: should I change the Article Mame as Christophoros Krokides 2: should I continue editing the article as it is using the above 2 references as external links 3: There are several articles and interviews in Greek radio stations and websites but in Greek language 1 2 3 4 Looking forward for your help regarding the article

21:06:25, 12 January 2022 review of draft by George-Amherst
I would like to add a table to an article I have just submitted through my sandbox, titled "The Musee francais ... / Napoleon ... / Royal. The table is very extensive, consisting of 500 lines and 8 columns.  To have it on the Internet in Wikipedia will be very useful for many people. How is a table dropped into at Wikipedia article?

George-Amherst (talk) 21:06, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

21:53:12, 12 January 2022 review of draft by 2601:183:857E:3830:EDDC:E4F1:B6CA:E9E9
Cannot comprehend language in declined report. Also, need help replacing certain words that fit request. Am somewhat surprised article was not approved, as many others on wikipedia have similar language, and lesser subjects, which are approved. 2601:183:857E:3830:EDDC:E4F1:B6CA:E9E9 (talk) 21:53, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * That an article exists does not necessarily mean that it was "approved" by anyone. Not everyone is required to use this process, and this process has not existed the entire time Wikipedia has existed.  This, among other reasons, is why the existence of particular articles has no bearing on the existence of other articles.  Please see other stuff exists.  It is possible to get inapproriate articles by us, as this is a volunteer project where people do what they can when they can.  If you would like to help out, you may identify these other similar articles you have seen for possible action.  We can only address what we know about.  If you are using other articles as a model, use those classified as good articles.
 * Regarding your draft, the subject appears to be notable, so you are really almost there. The issue seems to be mostly related to the tone of the article and perhaps some(either) clearer or additional sourcing. Looking at some other good-classified articles should help you better judge the tone. 331dot (talk) 21:59, 12 January 2022 (UTC)