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= January 18 =

00:12:22, 18 January 2022 review of draft by DKingWorldwide
Hello,

For my draft, I understand that the artist doesn't have his own solo debut yet, thus he is not qualified as a solo musician, however, he has debuted as a main producer and songwriter for the group, as shown on the information below:

On February 6, 2020, iKON released their third EP, iDecide, which included five tracks with Dive as the lead single.[15] Kim Dong-hyuk debuted as songwriter and record producer of “Flower” ((너란 바람 따라; neolan balam ttala; lit. Follow the wind that is you), one of the sidetrack singles, in which he also choreographed their dance performances.[16][17][18]

Linked articles that have coverage of this news are as follow (all in the Korean language): https://www.hankyung.com/news/article/2020020121764 title translated in English: iKON comeback D-5, YG said, "DK participated in producing and Bobby's involved in 3 songs" https://n.news.naver.com/entertain/article/469/0000466341 http://pop.heraldcorp.com/view.php?ud=202002121103029069392_1 title translated in English: "Donghyuk Kim of iKON “My first production challenge, the members responded well”

Will this be sufficient enough to prove his notability as he has enough coverage in the news regarding his debut as the music producer/songwriter? Please advise. Thank you so much for the help.

DKingWorldwide (talk) 00:12, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

02:17:07, 18 January 2022 review of draft by MyrellBW
I am requesting this draft to be approved for doing all the content that I did for a living person Biography as I already give all the citations possible that I needed to do it.

MyrellBW (talk) 02:17, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Why is my Draft always declined? MyrellBW (talk) 06:01, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
 * The draft was finally rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. Please review the comments left by reviewers for future reference.  It appears that the person does not meet the notability criteria for a notable creative professional. 331dot (talk) 08:26, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Request on 02:52:30, 18 January 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Axel20301000
Hi, I want to create a biography page of myself page within Wikipedia as is a Tweeter validation requirement, based on the previous resolutions, after reviewing my references,they are mainly on social media from my home country from TV shows that were nationally aired while I was on vacations (see links at the end of message). I also complete google validation process to be found by going ogle search (https://g.co/kgs/cGqUfz)

Web Tune https://web.tunecore.com/discography#.YeSQLGkUlSA

TV Show Exit from Grupo Megavisión El Salvador Jan 17 2019 https://m.facebook.com/stor y.php?story_fbid=2061294463950615&id=123113551102059

Feb 25 2019 https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2061294463950615&id=123113551102059

March 22 2019 https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3823125911100786&id=123113551102059

Spotify Link https://open.spotify.com/artist/6k9a9Xe2FHkmYjYByDSm4n

I would like your advice about if any of the above reference meets the requested criteria

Axel20301000 (talk) 02:52, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
 * , you seemed to have misunderstood what Twitter requires for validation in regards to Wikipedia. It requires a stable article which meets our inclusion criteria of WP:GNG as validated by multiple reliable sources independent of the subject. So far you have failed to show how any of these requirements have been met. Writing autobiographies is highly discouraged and having an article on Wikipedia is not always a good thing. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 04:39, 18 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia has no interest in helping you get verified by Twitter or any social media, or how an article might help you personally(there are in fact good reasons to not want an article). What matters is if you meet our notability criteria; any other benefit is secondary. 331dot (talk) 08:23, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Facebook and Spotify are not reliable independent sources, and the Tunecore link leads to a login page. Please take a moment to read the information that is linked from the decline notice, and from the posts above. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 08:05, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

04:24:32, 18 January 2022 review of submission by Bharattudu0987
Bharattudu0987 (talk) 04:24, 18 January 2022 (UTC)


 * You don't ask a question, but your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell the world about themselves, please read the autobiography policy. --Finngall talk  02:14, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

05:06:53, 18 January 2022 review of submission by Rambabuyadavnepal
Rambabuyadavnepal (talk) 05:06, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

please approve this article Draft:Milan Pandey — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rambabuyadavnepal (talk • contribs)
 * As you were told by reviewers, it seems that he does not meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable politician or more broadly a notable person. The draft must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coveage have chosen on their own to say about him(and not based on any materials from him or his associates like an interview). 331dot (talk) 08:21, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

07:02:40, 18 January 2022 review of submission by Masry684
Masry684 (talk) 07:02, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
 * You don't ask a question, but your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 08:17, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

07:47:20, 18 January 2022 review of submission by Syedshoaib370
Syedshoaib370 (talk) 07:47, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
 * You don't ask a question, but your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell the world about themselves, please read the autobiography policy. 331dot (talk) 08:15, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

09:24:46, 18 January 2022 review of draft by BregtjeV
Dear moderator,

I made a translation of the existing Dutch article on this artist, which is now declined for the second time for reasons of not meeting the standards of quotation. I have a few questions: - Does this concern the parts which are red (people by whom Caspar Berger studied), who don't have a page on the English Wikipedia? Can I link to the Dutch pages on Wikipedia in these cases? - Can I refer to the site of the artist himself when making a quotation? - Is it allowed to cite the existing Wikipedia for the Sacha Tanja Penning?

At this moment I don't know where the problem lies.

Thank you for your help and have a nice day.!

Anne Vollebregt

BregtjeV (talk) 09:24, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi.
 * It is okay to have red links, a draft will not be declined for that reason.
 * You may link to articles on the Dutch Wikipedia using template ill, which produces links such as Maja van Hall.
 * You may cite the artist's own website, but only for uncontroversial information, and the article should cite mainly independent sources. See WP:BLPSELFPUB for more details.
 * Wikipedia is user-generated, so it is not a reliable source and should not be cited.
 * The draft's most obvious problems are that there are no inline citations in the "Life and work" section or supporting the museum collections. You use inline citations elsewhere, so you evidently understand the technique. I strongly recommend that you use inline citations throughout, rather than the current mix of mostly general references and a few inline citations. --Worldbruce (talk) 14:32, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello,
 * What are the problems at this moment with my page? In my opinion I have done everything I could.
 * Could you give me specific feedback on links or texts that do not meet the Wikipedia standards?
 * Thanx a lot.
 * BregjeV BregtjeV (talk) 10:30, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

09:44:47, 18 January 2022 review of submission by Meshkati20
Mr. Panahi is an established artist, and we were hoping to get him included on Wikipedia to highlight his background and early life which made him the artist that he is today. There have been many exhibitions held in his honour, where he showcases his different works and explains to the audience what made him make the piece in question. Specifically his 'Musicalligraphy" pieces hold the highest regard because of their complexity yet fundamental idea, wherein he blends his love for music and calligraphy in one abstract piece of work.

If you could please offer us some guidance on how we should proceed in this venture of ours, we would be extremely grateful. Meshkati20 (talk) 09:44, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Who is "we"? The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. As noted by reviewers, the sources offered are either very brief mentions or associated with the subject. Wikipedia requires sources with significant, in depth coverage that are completely independent of the subject. 331dot (talk) 09:48, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

By 'we' I mean myself and Mr. Panahi. Please find below referenced pieces from magazines and newspapers supporting this submission.

Hadara Magazine - https://www.hadaramagazine.com/?p=3187&fbclid=IwAR3VlNIFWKt45h-ODyg53lSBnxBer6q6iJkoktwECI5tfYL-S4AtiXD0z60 Islamic Republic News Agency - https://en.irna.ir/news/83767758/Persian-calligraphy-art-of-balance The Sunday Times - https://www.sundaytimes.lk/970302/plus4.html The National - https://www.pressreader.com/uae/the-national-news/20191201/281921659906756

There are various galleries that discuss Mr. Panahi, along with curators - if there is something that is missing, guidance would be appreciated instead of just being given a "rejection".

Thanks

Meshkati20 (talk) 10:39, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
 * For additional comment, please edit this existing section, instead of creating additional sections for every comment. If you work with Mr. Panahi, you have a conflict of interest that you should disclose.  If he is compensating you in any manner(not just money or even anything tangible) you are required by the Wikipedia Terms of Use to make a formal declaration as a paid editor, see the paid editing policy.  As the draft was rejected, there is nothing that you can do to improve it further.  The sources you list here seem to be interviews with him, this does not establish notability as an interview is the person speaking about themselves.  Wikipedia wants to know what others independent of him choose on their own to say about him, not what he says about himself. 331dot (talk) 10:47, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

09:49:04, 18 January 2022 review of submission by Jaanus K
Jaanus K (talk) 09:49, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Hello! The article was rejected for not answering the COI inquiry, however I have answered it on the Talk page and added the relevant notices.
 * That was the last comment by a reviewer, but not the reason it was rejected. It was rejected for being promotional. Wikipedia is not a place for companies to tell about themselves and what they do; an article about a company must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own(and not prompted by any materials put out by the company, like interviews, press releases, announcements) to say about the company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable company. As the draft was rejected, it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 09:56, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Jaanus K (talk) 06:51, 19 January 2022 (UTC) Hello! I've submitted multiple drafts that have relied on independent and accepted sources per the wikipedia notability criteria - such as Bloomberg etc. However I do not see how the article is more promotional than say https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northvolt, which is a very similar company making similar products?
 * I've reverted the rejection since COI was declared even if I couldn't find it due to mobile limitations. However, it remains likely the next reviewer will decline or reject as there is no indication of notability and every indication the only purpose of the draft is promotion of the subject.Slywriter (talk) 14:04, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

12:06:00, 18 January 2022 review of draft by CristeenaC
I cannot add photographs in the page I am creating. Please help.

CristeenaC (talk) 12:06, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Images are not necessary for submitting a draft; the presence of images is not usually considered by reviewers. Once accepted, you can begin to add images.  You must be autoconfirmed to be able to upload images yourself(account is four days old with 10 edits or more). 331dot (talk) 12:35, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

15:24:49, 18 January 2022 review of submission by BarbaraLassen
BarbaraLassen (talk) 15:24, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Dear Wikipedia friends, it seems that I need advice. When offering the entry on the poet Jurgen Theobaldy, I based it on the entry in the German language Wikipedia which is inadequately supported by referenced sources. (Perhaps because the poet is so well-known in Germany, it was not deemed essential.) I agree that my entry had to be rejected because there were few sources added in the form of references. Now, the entry is rejected because there are too many references and too many sources and I quoted at great length (in the original with added translation to English.) I have deleted some links to sources that are online. My experience is that sources that are available in few libraries are often rejected. Is it because some reviewers accept only resources that can be checked online with ease? I need help. Is it still too much I add to the initial, badly referenced text on Theobaldy? Or have I deleted details that I should not have deleted? I am certain that experienced Wikipedia editors can give good advice. Thank you so much for your help, dear friends. My best/ Barbara

20:54:00, 18 January 2022 review of submission by Masry684
Masry684 (talk) 20:54, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

21:42:58, 18 January 2022 review of draft by CopyKait
I'd like help with the notability of my article. It seems like a notable company, but it was declined previously for not having good enough sources. I'm hoping to find out if my updated citations meet the standard for a tech company before resubmitting, or if I should submit it. Thank you! CopyKait (talk) 21:42, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

22:47:21, 18 January 2022 review of draft by Swamp Greetings
Hi,

After submitting my draft I got the message "Need independent reliable sources".

So far I've included:
 * An official record from the Spanish Ministry of Justice re. the subject (direct link).
 * A direct mention from an official agency/foundation, directly connected to the Spanish Ministry of the Presidency.
 * 3 direct mentions from peer organisations from two different countries (also recognised by the State), acknowledging the subject (more available, but it'd be saturation).
 * 3 news from 3 different newspapers.
 * 1 radio program.
 * 1 TV special (Channel 5, UK).
 * Direct links to 2 relevant "wider" associations (one national, one international) the subject is a member of (thus fully acknowledged as a peer).
 * 5 examples of subject's involvement in a number of causes: 1 from a learned/research society, 1 from a local government (official), 3 from other established associations (more available, but it'd be saturation).
 * Ps. And a couple of published papers (university proceedings). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swamp Greetings (talk • contribs) 22:58, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

The Galician and Portuguese pages have already been published:

https://gl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irmandade_Dru%C3%ADdica_Galaica

https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irmandade_Dru%C3%ADdica_Galaica

Obviously, for some actual info about the organisation itself I had to dig into its own website and social media (external sources are not going to explain how exactly it works).

Please advise. Regards.

Swamp Greetings (talk) 22:47, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
 * , Other Wikipedias have different standards and en-wiki tends to be the strictest. Your sources are largely primary sources or sources connected to the subject. Wikipedia cares about what independent reliable sources have to say about the subject.  Official records, direct mentions in primary documents, write ups by other organizations do not show notability. The radio program is a website hosted on wordpress with no author. Praza is a passing mention(and that's being generous), and at least one of your academic sources is about Druid, not the specific organization.  Reviewers are not expected to review dozens of low quality references to find notability for you.  The organization may be notable, but any hint of that notability is buried in the use of primary and connected sources.Slywriter (talk) 13:58, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

23:19:21, 18 January 2022 review of submission by Cakepops or bust
My article was declined, even though it is not finished. Please tell me why it declined so I can improve!

Cakepops or bust (talk) 23:19, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Your draft is sourced to nothing but another wiki; Wikipedia articles must summarize independent reliable sources like news reports. If no one has written about what I assume is your micronation, it would not merit a Wikipedia article. Compare your draft to Republic of Molossia and Principality of Sealand. 331dot (talk) 23:50, 18 January 2022 (UTC)