Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2022 January 7

= January 7 =

01:37:16, 7 January 2022 review of submission by Flyview
Flyview (talk) 01:37, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Draft: Flywheel exercise — Preceding unsigned comment added by Flyview (talk • contribs) 01:44, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Again, dear WP editors/reviewers , I still have comments re: WP Flywheel Exercise draft that I think you should consider:

NOTABILITY: References 5,6,7,38 of my submitted Wiki Draft are all review articles that discuss Flywheel Resistance Training effects on muscle mass, strength and sports performance. Using the world standard PubMed (https://pubmed-ncbi-nlm-nih-gov) searching “flywheel exercise OR flywheel training” you will find a rapidly increasing number of sports science publications (39 and 38 scientific articles in years 2020 and 2021, respectively). After the classic use of barbells, dumbbells, weight-stack machines and your own body weight, probably flywheels have now become the most commonly used load for strength training. Searching NASA.gov or ESA.int; for Flywheel Exercise Device, reading refs. 3,4,20,27,28 or consult Wiki Human Space flight etc, will underline that Flywheel exercise is one of a few technologies being considered for future Mars missions. I think therefore this Wiki article is relevant for the WP Encyclopedia readers.

VERIFIABILITY: Some of the above references are written by our research group during the first years after inventing this technology, but currently the vast majority of studies come from universities all over the world; as mirrored by the current Reference list. Of course, my history of inventing, prototyping, researching and formerly marketing flywheel technology could make me challengeable or biased in my description; BUT my thought this will be openly reviewed, discussed and if necessary corrected by all WP readers and editors as soon as the article is published on WP! Or before if you the editors point out specific problems.

COPYRIGHT: All 4 reviewers (DGG/Caleb Stanford/Slywriter), have argued that my text is “apparently/likely/clearly a cut and paste copyright violation”. Those are strong words, and I admit I was shocked by the aggressive attitude. I have told you that perhaps my 30 years of scientific writing might have led to a wording that you might think was copied from other manuscripts, or even websites as suggested. I have indeed written some 10 scientific papers describing the flywheel exercise principle, and there are not unlimited words and ways to describe it, but I do not think my consistent style makes it a theft from any of my former texts or by others; and therefore no copyright violation toward a scientific publishing company. NASA/ESA copyrights are not easy to violate. Maybe I should be proud if you find the draft text mature already.

If you find a specific company website copyright is violated, please inform me. There are currently many US and international manufacturers of this invention (patent expired), and my interest in YoYo Technology/nHance is terminated. Because the text is rather short; I checked it using a freeware searching plagiarism called grammarly.com; which did not find any plagiarism, but 10 punctiations wrong and a few word choice/spelling mistakes. These will fix, along with getting rid of approx. 15 doubled references in list (need perhaps help/advice), referencing other WP articles in text, adding images (need some technical advice).

Awaiting your response /Flyview (user info updated)
 * , If there is not cutting and pasting, please explain the following items that appear in your draft (sampling, not exhaustive)

Slywriter (talk) 02:11, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
 * (Figure 1a+b)
 * Fig.2, link ESA; the Flywheel Resistance Exercise Device, FWED; see further below
 * (Fig. 1b)
 * (Fig. 2)
 * (Photos below; courtesy of YoYo Technology/nHance)
 * Having re-read your text, are those images you are looking to add to the article? And yes, it is possible your style of writing is triggering alarm bells in reviewers and we certainly can be wrong.Slywriter (talk) 02:22, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

03:22:37, 7 January 2022 review of draft by Imajetic
Hi, In recent years there are more ultra multi-day races around the world. One of them, 6 day run/walk, is gaining popularity. Bernardo José Mora created wiki page for 6 day walk in Spanish (https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/6_d%C3%ADas_marcha). Because the English version of this wiki page was missing, I wanted to create it and share my knowledge with other ultra walkers. I got permission from Bernardo to use his page as source for the English version, I updated the page and added some new facts. I tried to add references whenever needed. And I publish the wiki page for review. Slywriter reviewed the new page on Dec 27 and declined with response "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources". What do I need to do to have the page approved? One of the main reason for this wiki page is that there is not too many comprehensive sources on the internet. Please, let me know how I can fix it.

Imajetic (talk) 03:22, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello, . When you write "there is not too many comprehensive sources", that is a string indication that this topic may not be notable enough for an English Wikipedia article. Wikipedia articles summarize what reliable, independent sources say about a topic. If these sources do not devote significant coverage to this race, then it is not eligible for an English Wikipedia article. Cullen328 (talk) 03:30, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

04:53:36, 7 January 2022 review of draft by Mwill66
Dear Folks, I am trying to contact TheChunky in regard to a Draft:Hume’s Pass page that he reviewed. When I go onto his User talk:TheChunky I cannot find any text box or place on the page to write to him. I have utterly slashed out most of the information. It is now a simple recording of a location, that the location was lost to history, and maps that approximately identified the location. My input is touched on at the end as only to have corrected the original map. It is an after-thought to the article that is entirely dominated by the work of ancient writers. Thanks in advance for your help. Martin

Mwill66 (talk) 04:53, 7 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Go to User talk:TheChunky, Mwill66. This has a list of "Contents". Click on the lowermost of these. To the right of its header, you will see "[ edit ]". Click on this. Scroll to the bottom of the text in the input box. Start a new line with "==Draft:Hume's Pass==" (without the quotation marks). This is your header. Write your message under your header. Sign it with four consecutive strikes of "~" (again, no quotation marks). Hit "Publish changes". That's it. -- Hoary (talk) 08:06, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

11:27:12, 7 January 2022 review of submission by RKSURYAFND
RKSURYAFND (talk) 11:27, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
 * You don't ask a question, but as I said on the draft, Wikipedia is not a place to post your resume. Please also read the autobiography policy. 331dot (talk) 11:29, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

11:59:15, 7 January 2022 review of submission by Harshitabambure
Harshita Bambure (born 11 May 1997) is General Secretary of Maharashtra state at All India Yoga Teachers Federations. Born in the Bambure family she is the daughter of Pannalal Bambure. She likes to do yoga and she arranges so many free yoga campuses for society. She always supports all yoga teachers.


 * It's unnecessary to duplicate the text here, it is linked to above. You don't ask a question, but the draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further.  Your draft was completely unsourced. Wikipedia is not a place to just tell about someone. An article must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a person, showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person. Please read Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 12:04, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

12:26:04, 7 January 2022 review of submission by 2A02:C7F:1808:7800:A58A:8DF8:5AD5:EFD6
2A02:C7F:1808:7800:A58A:8DF8:5AD5:EFD6 (talk) 12:26, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
 * This page has been rejected, has not been edited since the reject, and will not be considered further. Read the reviewer's comments that they left on the draft as they were rejecting it. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 16:45, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

16:27:51, 7 January 2022 review of submission by Slywriter
This page refuses to load for me on Mobile Chrome when I switch to desktop mode(via wikipedia link on bottom) and so unable to review or comment. Curious if any other reviewer has an issue. I don't see anything odd in the wikicode and loads in mobile chrome and incognito desktop fine.

Slywriter (talk) 16:27, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't have any difficulty viewing it. 331dot (talk) 16:46, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

20:21:17, 7 January 2022 review of draft by Bokoharamwatch
Bokoharamwatch (talk) 20:21, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Gombe_kidnap_attempt It seems the reviewer is not be well educated on this topic. This occurred in the same year as Chibok, but is not well known. Still, it's like saying Dapchi, or Kagara or Kankara kidnappings is covered in Chibok. What you think, wrong or right? I struggle myself. Bokoharamwatch (talk) 20:21, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

22:40:42, 7 January 2022 review of submission by Caraghm
Having received notification that the page I am proposing starting is not worth inclusion in Wikipedia, I am looking for more guidance. This company invests globally and I am creating this page with a view to contributions being added about the many start ups in India that this company is funding. Is starting a page with basic information that is then added to by others not how I should approach this?

I note that there are similar hedge funds listed on Wikipedia i.e. Tiger Global Management so why does Think Investments not warrant a page?

Thanks again, Caragh

Caraghm (talk) 22:40, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Please see other stuff exists. Other similar articles existing does not automatically mean yours can too. Wikipedia is not a place to just tell about something, and is not a directory where mere existence merits inclusion. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia with criteria for inclusion. A Wikipedia article must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the subject, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of notability. Your draft was completely unsourced, which is why it was rejected and will not be considered further. If you are associated with this hedge fund, please read about conflict of interest and paid editing. 331dot (talk) 22:52, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

23:34:35, 7 January 2022 review of draft by Iaineditor
Hello there. I've started an article on Dorothy Morland. It's quite short at the moment, but includes material from a number of sources. I'd be interested in guidance on whether I need to fill it out to make it more substantial before submitting it for review, or whether quite short articles can be submitted and passed in the hope/anticipation that once published others with an interest will join in to help fill it out. Also, in the latter case, how to increase the likelihood that others with an interest will find the article (eg adding wikiproject tags and adding to categories?). Thank you.

Iaineditor (talk) 23:34, 7 January 2022 (UTC)


 * She certainly seems to me to merit an article, Iaineditor. (And I've given the draft a very minor nudge in the right direction.) Experience has told me that I'm most unlikely to get substantial help in any bio I might create for any arts-related person, so before I start I ask myself (i) what kind of article the person merits (usually, of moderate length and of course scrupulously referenced), and (ii) whether I can be bothered to create such an article all by myself (usually "no"). And thus I create ever fewer articles. Well, you're lucky with Morland: there's an entire book about her, from a university press. (And it's a respected university, too.) We can start by assuming that the book is good. You should be able to get hold of it, and then you'll surely be able to get much more from it. However, what you have is a draft, and draft reviewers tend to be wary of drafts that mostly cite material that isn't immediately available to them. (Indeed, they tend to be deterred by longish drafts of any kind.) So I suggest that you submit it sooner rather than later. -- Hoary (talk) 02:17, 8 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Very many thanks, Hoary, for this reply and the directional nudge, both very helpful and much appreciated. Iaineditor (talk) 16:32, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Request on 23:45:40, 7 January 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Caraghm
Hello again, I have just been advised that a submission I made for an article on Think Investments was completely unsourced and will not be considered further. Just so I can more clearly understand, I actually included several independent articles to substantiate what I was submitting. Does this not qualify as sourced. How can I improve the sources. And secondly, I am not directly associated but am interested in the company ....does everyone who initially creates an article in the first instance have some interest? If they didn't then they might not care that there was not mention on Wikipedia.

Sorry to be so persistent on this but really want to understand further as the guidelines are quite vague and I keep on being referred to the same ones?

Thanks again.

Caraghm (talk) 23:45, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello, . External links are not references. Please read Referencing for beginners and Your first article and the Notability guideline for companies. It would also be useful to read some Good articles about companies so you will better understand what an acceptable article looks like. Cullen328 (talk) 00:39, 8 January 2022 (UTC)