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= July 24 =

04:40:35, 24 July 2022 review of draft by Omichang
This article has been criticized as not neutral enough, can you help me to point out which part I can fix itOmichang (talk) 04:40, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Omichang (talk) 04:40, 24 July 2022 (UTC)


 * posted a comment on the draft  Just ' i ' yaya  06:47, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

04:46:23, 24 July 2022 review of draft by Omichang
If there is a lack of English news sources, how to optimize it?Thank you.Omichang (talk) 04:46, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Omichang (talk) 04:46, 24 July 2022 (UTC)


 * @Omichang No amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability. I don't think an article is possible at this time without significant expansion of reliable, independent sources in the article. The problem isn't a lack of English news sources, we require reliable sources in any language. From what I can see, there is at most one reliable source in the article (ref 3, 5 are from the same organization, possibly unreliable per WP:XINHUA, rest non-independent).  Just ' i ' yaya  06:57, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

06:30:59, 24 July 2022 review of submission by Kalpyre
How this can become a wiki story?

Thanks

Kalpyre (talk) 06:30, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * It can't. We don't have "wiki stories". We have articles, and those articles summarize what independent reliable sources with sigificant coverage have chosen on their own to say about- in this case- a person, showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person. The draft does not do that, which is why it was rejected and will not be considered further.  Please see the comments left by reviewers. 331dot (talk) 07:24, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

11:43:10, 24 July 2022 review of submission by Hubdarbrohii
Hubdarbrohii (talk) 11:43, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Your draft was rejected like most us, you are not notable enough for an article, see Wikipedia is not about YOU. Theroadislong (talk) 12:56, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

13:27:33, 24 July 2022 review of draft by SevenSisters1313
Hi there, thank you for your time. A draft of an article on the band The Otherness has been rejected in view of inadequate reliable sources and said references not showing that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. No doubt this is at least in large part down to (good faith) misunderstandings and failings to understand the Wikipedia system on my part, which I apologise for and can attempt to rectify. However, my question is: from my perspective, it does appear that the band would meet criteria 1 and 12 of the Notability guidelines for musicians and ensembles (I may be wrong about this, but would appreciate being set right if so): there is substantive coverage from what appears to me credible media publications (NME, regional and national newspapers of reasonable stature) and video coverage from national broadcasters across a national TV network (TN La Viola from Argentina, and another from German TV that I have stupidly so far failed to include, but would also include in a new edit). If I were to remove some of the sources deemed inadequate and draw more extensively on these sources that appear more credible to reshape the article, does it seem likely that this could help resolve issues with the article to a sufficient degree, or would this still seem like too little to ground an article of this nature? Thank you again for your time, and all the best.SevenSisters1313 (talk) 13:27, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

SevenSisters1313 (talk) 13:27, 24 July 2022 (UTC)


 * @SevenSisters1313: the draft has been declined, not rejected, meaning you're welcome to resubmit once you've comprehensively addressed the reasons for declining. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:31, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the information - have attempted to rectify, and appreciate your taking the time to reply. SevenSisters1313 (talk) 17:27, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

13:50:27, 24 July 2022 review of draft by JackMags
How do I add my references?

JackMags (talk) 13:50, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * It looks like you have worked it out, BUT your sources do not show any notability. We require significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Theroadislong (talk) 15:07, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * See WP:Reliable sources WP:Secondary source. QiuLiming1 (talk) 20:58, 24 July 2022 (UTC)