Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2022 July 29

= July 29 =

01:32:44, 29 July 2022 review of draft by 2603:6081:3502:858D:740D:357:8411:3AFC
I have updated this draft wikipedia page to follow wikipedia's notability guidelines. The original draft was declined because the page focused on the company but the references were focused on the company's product. I've since updated the draft to focus on the product. Can you please review my current draft and see if you think it meet's wikipedia's notability and referencing guidelines?

2603:6081:3502:858D:740D:357:8411:3AFC (talk) 01:32, 29 July 2022 (UTC)


 * The way to get someone to review your draft is to submit it.
 * But just to say that one of the sources (Lifewire) is flaky, and another (ProPrivacy) is considered non-RS. If I were to review this, I'd decline it on the basis of insufficient reliable sources, but perhaps another reviewer will be more lenient. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:53, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

03:15:00, 29 July 2022 review of submission by Lee Miao Si
Hi there, my wikipedia page has been more than 90 days. However, when I google it still doesn't appear. Anyone able to help with this issue? Thank you! Lee Miao Si (talk) 03:15, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia has no control over how quickly Google indexes articles. 331dot (talk) 08:07, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
 * This is no longer an AfC matter, as the article was accepted three months ago. But FWIW, it hasn't been reviewed by NPP yet, and AFAIK that may prevent it being indexed. (Happy to be proven wrong on that!) -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:18, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
 * @DoubleGrazing, @Lee Miao Si I thought the "noindex" tag was removed after NPP, or 90 days, whichever occurs first. 71.228.112.175 (talk) 08:20, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Per WP:NOINDEX, that seems to be so, yes. And indeed this article now appears to come up in Google searches. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:26, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

05:19:03, 29 July 2022 review of draft by ChrisJohnson112211
Hi, I generated a draft of an article that was declined by a reviewer: Hoary on July 19. Hoary and I had a productive exchange of suggestions and edits until 9 days ago and there have been no correspondence or updates on the status of my article since then. Is there any way to know where things stand with the editing and publication of my article? I don't know if Hoary has permanently rejected my article for new, unstated reasons, or if this is a normal delay in the process. If my article has been declined again, is there a way I can request a new reviewer who can help me resolve any new problems? Thank you for your help and advice with this. Chris ChrisJohnson112211 (talk) 05:19, 29 July 2022 (UTC)


 * @ChrisJohnson112211: your draft is awaiting review. It hasn't been rejected. There is also no obligation on the earlier reviewer to review it again, or otherwise to continue working on it. What happens is that when a draft is declined and resubmitted, it goes back to the pool, and gets reviewed again when a reviewer happens to pick it up. No need to worry, all perfectly normal and par for the course. Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:12, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the response DoubleGazing. That is helpful to hear. ChrisJohnson112211 (talk) 14:31, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

05:29:50, 29 July 2022 review of submission by Ntkn766
After this new film Khadak, actor Has lead roles in two notable films and hence actor becomes notable as per WP:ACTOR. Ntkn766 (talk) 05:29, 29 July 2022 (UTC)


 * @Ntkn766: unlikely; NACTOR requires "significant roles in multiple notable films", and their filmography doesn't suggest that is the case. Besides, the post-Khadak work clearly isn't notable, at least not yet. In any case, this draft has been rejected. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:09, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello sir can you please tell why khadak is not notable. between she has done significant role in many movies.. Ntkn766 (talk) 14:25, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I didn't say Khadak isn't notable; I said her work since then isn't (yet) notable, as the newer films haven't been released, and there are no Wikipedia articles on them.
 * There also seems to be some degree of aggrandisement in what comes to describing her roles as 'lead' or 'significant'.
 * Be that as it may, the fact remains that this draft has been rejected. If you wish to take it further, you will need to consult with the reviewer who rejected it. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:31, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

08:36:35, 29 July 2022 review of submission by Director nmch
Director nmch (talk) 08:36, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
 * You don't ask a question, but your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 08:41, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

11:44:20, 29 July 2022 review of draft by Kuralarasan DM
Kuralarasan DM (talk) 11:44, 29 July 2022 (UTC)


 * @Kuralarasan DM: you don't ask a question, but let me just say that the draft was unreferenced, with no indication of notability, and on top of that it was an apparent copyvio. Therefore I've declined it again, and also requested that it's speedily deleted. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:49, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

15:11:58, 29 July 2022 review of draft by DMhc1
Looking for advice on resources for notability. I have input several new references but they are deemed insufficient. Can you provide an example for me? I have used the Anna's Tacqueria page as an example of a similar business. Thank you. DMhc1 (talk) 15:11, 29 July 2022 (UTC)


 * @DMhc1: don't use another article as your guide, there's no guarantee that it complies with the rules; use instead the actual rules, most importantly the WP:GNG notability guideline. You basically need to show significant coverage of the subject, in multiple independent and reliable secondary sources. Anything written by the business themselves, or anything based on their press releases or similar, is unusable, as is routine business reporting, any interviews, and anything that doesn't adhere to proper journalistic standards (such as all the various 'ten best products' reviews, publications with an agenda to push, etc.). -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:15, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

15:41:53, 29 July 2022 review of submission by Fonzie10
I am requesting e re-review on this article since i am new to wikipedia on writing articles and i did a lot of mistakes and i m trying to fix them so i can publish this article. i am not a related party with the person i m writing about but i choose it as a start article and i want to improve it until its worth publishing

Fonzie10 (talk) 15:41, 29 July 2022 (UTC)


 * @Fonzie10: the sources cited are not sufficient to establish notability, and most of the draft contents are unreferenced. I think the earlier reviewer was quite right to reject this. This is probably not what you wanted to hear, but you did ask for a re-review so there it is.
 * I can understand why these sort of 'famous for being famous' people would like to give their career a boost by having a Wikipedia article published, but alas that's not why Wikipedia is here. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:21, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I thank you a lot for the fast reply, i agree with the rejection i m not objecting i just want to improve the article so i can be able to publish it i am not being paid or neither related to the person i m writing about , this article its not about giving a boost to their career but i choose this person since its one of the first public figures that did blogging in Albania since a fashion blogger was not a usual " title " to have in albania and the rest that came up later they changed their tittle to blogger but became famous to other ways not blogging thats why i choose this specific person. so can you guide me please how to write a decent article for wikipedia regarding this person? Fonzie10 (talk) 16:26, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The most useful advice I can give you (other than 'drop it') is: find several sources that fully and indisputably satisfy all aspects of the WP:GNG criteria; then summarise — without adding the slightest positive (or negative) bias — what they have said, clearly citing each source as you go. Keep it factual, keep it simple, and show that this person warrants an article in a global encyclopaedia (and BTW, being one of the first fashion bloggers in Albania ain't it). I doubt this is doable, but good luck all the same. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:55, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

17:00:26, 29 July 2022 review of draft by Leslie Love Stone
My article was declined because it lacked the tone of an encyclopedia article. A few questions:

1. My intent is to create an article than can be linked to the already published article on the Adelaida District AVA. DAOU is cited but has no corresponding article. Ultimately, I'd like to do articles for all the cited wineries and Stanley Hoffman, also cited in this article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adelaida_District_AVA 2. I modeled my article on the Tablas Creek article which is linked to the Adelaida District AVA article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tablas_Creek_Vineyard 3. Can you point to something specific that does not meet your requirements? I definitely want to get this right!

Thank you,

Leslie Love Stone

Leslie Love Stone (talk) 17:00, 29 July 2022 (UTC)


 * @Leslie Love Stone: IMO, the draft reads like marketing blurb, not like an encyclopaedia entry. Please see the advice at Encyclopedic style. HTH, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:10, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you—most helpful. As this is my first article, I am obviously making mistakes! Leslie Love Stone (talk) 18:48, 29 July 2022 (UTC)