Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2022 June 29

= June 29 =

02:32:15, 29 June 2022 review of draft by Eerie Holiday
What is this article missing? I feel notable sources have been added to support what the page is all based on. The event results were added from the same format used in other related pages that are on Wikipedia. I'd like some help on what exactly could help get the page published.

Eerie Holiday (talk) 02:32, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

02:53:44, 29 June 2022 review of draft by Dwaipayanc
Help is needed to speedy review and approve Draft:X=Prem. This is a 2022 Bengali film which has already been released, and the article has appropriate sources. Thanks! --Dwaipayan (talk) 02:53, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

Dwaipayan (talk) 02:53, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
 * , Bold move of article to main space is an acceptable outcome. AfC is optional and has quite a backlog. Slywriter (talk) 03:39, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
 * , fix ping. Slywriter (talk) 03:40, 29 June 2022 (UTC)


 * the draft is nowhere near ready to be an article, since most of the sources are useless. Instead of working towards a "speedy" publishing (there is no deadline, and Wikipedia lacks articles about many notable decades-old movies!), please take the time to work on the draft to make it conform to the sourcing policy. To mention one of the more glaring issues, there are four identical copies of the same press release, which Times of India published with different titles – it doesn't look like the person who added the sources to the draft actually read them, because it's immediately obvious that they are the same. There are a couple of good sources, and in a comment by a previous AfC reviewer, there are some other suggested ones. Please do not move this to mainspace yourself. Thanks! --bonadea contributions talk 16:07, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi! @Bonadea, I have removed the identical copies of the refs. I have added several references for the review. The article easily meets WP:NF for films. Please move to mainspace. Thanks! --Dwaipayan (talk) 16:44, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
 * You haven't submitted it for review – if you do that, it will be reviewed in due course. --bonadea contributions talk 18:53, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
 * resubmitted.--Dwaipayan (talk) 11:52, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

15:49:58, 29 June 2022 review of submission by Me2638
Me2638 (talk) 15:49, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi there! I submitted my first two articles submission to Wikipedia. Both were reviewed and not accepted. My focus is Wikipedia pages for social media (niche). For one of them, Jessy Taylor, I cited news coverage from multiple mainstream newspapers published worldwide. However, since I'm new, I understand I didn't go to the depth and didn't include everyone. I most likely did not do it correctly. Before any resubmission, I need to understand how many additional references are required to meet the notability standard for Jessy Taylor. I strongly feel that the Taylor Wikipedia page has a higher chance of getting approved than the Mary Magdelene since there wasn't much, to begin with, for Mary.

Regarding Mary Magdelene's draft, not sure what else I could add; everything that was available was on the DRAFT. Mary meets no notability standards and is a lot harder to write about. I did find a yahoo article about Jessyt that I'm wondering if I can use. All the people I'm writing about have a solid social media presence. Furthermore, I am now starting a wiki draft about Playmate Tessi.

If anyone can help me with the Jessy or Playmate Tessi draft I'm starting, I would appreciate that. I have been a writer for four years. However, Wikipedia is much different than anything I had done. I'm a second-year college student, but I started school late due to other responblites, and now I have time to follow my passion. I love learning and expanding my writing knowledge.

TRASH --- Draft:Mary Magdelene (I will trash since unable to find anything more) (NOT USING)

--- In process Draft:Jessy Taylor

- please make edits or add if possible. Links - https://www.yahoo.com/now/discussing-seriousness-false-media-information-143500502.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAADVkO0XN0CJQu1MRdZ1itisqJPtZ22FgAX65UkWRDz8YwWHoqbyx2ASdL_eXJFbjZYWna7QuR_y9HVv0AGqsdEnriAy88ILcLF-kyttPwiIrz_PaRIAj3e6DB2XWcwQPkixlPNAixySPHg9PRSN52llMZv1ygLKk8VjKEjUQ68nU

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Playmate_Tessi

Me2638 (talk) 15:49, 29 June 2022 (UTC)


 * The Yahoo source is a press release and thus useless (connexion to subject). Yahoo indicates Accesswire is the source of the text, and Accesswire is a PR firm. As to Tessi, I can't find any usable sources there (string: "playmate tessi"), and even if I could this one looks like a WP:BLP1E situation; we generally err towards the subject's privacy in such situations and do not have an article on them. as to Magdalene's draft, you should be able to just tag it for deletion with at the top of the page; this will mark it for speedy deletion.  —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 18:29, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi!!
 * I went ahead and put   For Magdalene.
 * Moving forward, I understand the yahoo article that is a press release can sometimes be used to verify specific facts, but it can never be used to support a person's (or organisation's) notability I also looked at Bhad Bhabie and she has a Dr. Phil section, could that be used for Jessy as well?
 * I have been following Taylor for years on her previous instagram and she has now moved to tiktok with 400k where she does pranks and gets millions of views. Her orginal instagram was verified and had 250k followers untill deletion again in 2020.  Taylor got known in the first place from YouTube collaborating on CX with Sam Pepper and Ice Poseidon being one of the 3 main leads on both Sam and Ice. Playmate Tessi, seems to be a well interesting case, I have already started writing. for her as well. She is a known live streamer who also got notable from Dr. Phil also.In my opinion, social media celebrity is the new celebrity. Hence why I am doing a wikipedia niche for influencers.
 * I want to see if these attached articles are approved for Jessy Taylor use.
 * 1) independent.Jessy Taylor
 * 2) insider Jessy Taylor (citing she wants to move to UK)
 * 3) Insider Jessy Taylor
 * 4)Jessy's Google panel : Me2638 (talk) 21:14, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
 * We don't CARE about celebrity. We care only if a person has news coverage about their deeds and actions (ideally multiple deeds and actions). The more I look the more I'm concerned that an article on Jessy would be very counterproductive, on the level of Christine Chandler. (And yes, that link is intentional, as she's been a victim of it for over a decade and we still constantly get attempts to write an article about her.) If the only coverage of her is tied up in the coverage of her IG account being deleted, it doesn't matter how well sourced it is - the privacy concerns will outweigh any potential notability.
 * This also brings us to the example you use. I constantly tell new users, "You cannot use the presence, absence, or status of other tangentially-related articles to argue for your own", and that applies here as well. Bhabie has things other than the Dr. Phil appearance and social media that give her notability (namely, her music career), whereas Jessy's article starts and ends with "She threw a tantrum when her IG got 86'd", with the Dr. Phil appearance being an extension of that (and, once again, we shouldn't be citing talk shows like Dr. Phil full stop).
 * To your sources, the Google Knowledge Panel is useless as a source both because the information on it is not vetted and it often culls from Wikipedia. The other three are "She threw a tantrum when her IG got 86'd". There's really nothing here we can really work with, especially in the constraints of WP:BLP1E. —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 21:47, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

17:35:36, 29 June 2022 review of draft by Fulaniag
I have deleted the draft of Sullubawa Kingdom because it's available in Wikipedia, so that I want to start new article, but the system didn't allow me, could you please help me to fix that. Fulaniag (talk) 17:35, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
 * You should be able to use the article creation wizard Article wizard. But first you should read WP:YFA. It's very hard to successfully write a new article, especially if you are a brand new editor. It will only lead to frustration. TechnoTalk (talk) 00:20, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

19:09:30, 29 June 2022 review of draft by Ali hasib16
Ali hasib16 (talk) 19:09, 29 June 2022 (UTC)


 * This is some sort of article template, not an article. Can you be more specific as to what you need help with? —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 21:00, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

19:50:54, 29 June 2022 review of submission by LaibahFirdaus1
LaibahFirdaus1 (talk) 19:50, 29 June 2022 (UTC) , do you have a specific question about the draft? I see that many comments have been left on the draft and your talk page which explain the reasons for its decline. If there is a specific question you have outside of that please as such. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:54, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

19:54:59, 29 June 2022 review of submission by OMAXCHAIN
OMAXCHAIN (talk) 19:54, 29 June 2022 (UTC) There are plenty of news media channels who published about OMAX token and their development. It was trending in the google trends in Australia back in october and november. if we type omax token on google search engine there are notably 100s of articles about them.


 * User has been blocked and their draft deleted, but I'm just going to make a blanket statement: Assume 95% of Google News results and 99% of general search results are not going to be useful to us, especially where blockchain-related tech is concerned. —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 20:51, 29 June 2022 (UTC)