Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2022 March 14

= March 14 =

00:31:18, 14 March 2022 review of draft by Taki60
Taki60 (talk) 00:31, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi,

I have spent more than one day time to get the page complete. It is purely for the community's good after I notice a lot of misinformation online.

It is a list of manufactories with additional information for the community. I don't know why the page content doesn't meet the content requirement. I haven't had all information filled in due to my limited available time. I hope to create the groundwork to let the community fill in any missing pieces. Please spell it out if anything is missing for publishing, but not a simple declined note.

Thanks.
 * We aren't a directory. —Jéské Couriano  v^_^v  a little blue Bori 00:52, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

03:36:50, 14 March 2022 review of submission by Wikiwikiuser23
Wikiwikiuser23 (talk) 03:36, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Why is the entry rejected?
 * Wikipedia is not a place to merely tell about someone and their accomplishments, it is a place to summarize independent reliable sources. 331dot (talk) 13:45, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

I don't understand why this page was not approved. Can anyone please inform me? Wikiwikiuser23 (talk) 15:33, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * For additional comment, please edit this existing section, instead of creating additional sections. I've answered your question here. 331dot (talk) 15:34, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

05:59:47, 14 March 2022 review of submission by Madhukaramgowda
Madhukaramgowda (talk) 05:59, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * You don't ask a question, so I'll suggest you read WP:YOURFIRSTARTICLE. TechnoTalk (talk) 21:37, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

18:46:33, 14 March 2022 review of submission by ChinthakaGK
If someone has visibility on my first submission which is National Green Front, what is the status of this article, it is a bit complicated to see the current status as it is not listed under the Pending AfC submissions.ChinthakaGK (talk) 18:46, 14 March 2022 (UTC) ChinthakaGK (talk) 18:46, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * You have resubmitted Draft:National Green Front and its currently pending review. If yu don't see a giant yellow box at the draft's top, bypass your browser cache. Victor Schmidt (talk) 20:05, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * @Victor Schmidt Thank you very much for the update. Yes big yellow box is there, my worry was its been a few weeks and neither alerts nor couldn't find it under the pending list. ChinthakaGK (talk) 00:46, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
 * The sourcing is insufficient to demonstrate notability of the organization, and the tone is too essay-like. You should not have to use the organization's own web site to tell us about them. The lack of independent media coverage in the draft suggests the group isn't notable. You will need to find more sourcing. Also, see WP:YOURFIRSTARTICLE and WP:COI. TechnoTalk (talk) 21:43, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

20:14:56, 14 March 2022 review of draft by Jwyatt123
Jwyatt123 (talk) 20:14, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Greetings, I hope to publish the draft for Nathan Kuppermann, chair of our Department at the University of California, Davis School of Medicine. I am unfamiliar with the submission process of Wikipedia and am unclear if patience or further information is needed.

Thank you.

Jennifer Wyatt
 * As noted on your draft, the review process "may take 3 months or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 2,853 pending submissions waiting for review." Please be patient, a volunteer will eventually review it. 331dot (talk) 20:42, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

22:05:59, 14 March 2022 review of draft by Mmt21pf
My submission continues to get rejected. Can you please provide any insights on how I can improve so that is it approved.

Mmt21pf (talk) 22:05, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * It has been declined, not rejected. I can't say anything beyond what reviewers have said. 331dot (talk) 22:34, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * That is correct. I had been declined several times. I'm not sure exactly how to correct in order to be approved. Does it make sense for me to delete and start over, submitting just a small portion at a time for approval? Or should I just trim the current submission back? Any thoughts you could provide on the best strategy for gaining approval would be greatly appreciated! Thanks. Mmt21pf (talk) 22:53, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * What are your three best sources? 331dot (talk) 09:46, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
 * PR Newswire, Business Insider and Forbes. Mmt21pf (talk) 12:21, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
 * The problems with those references are that they are respectively: a press release (not independent), a primary source interview without independent analysis by the interviewer (not independent), and a self-published blog by a non-staffer (not reliable). Using lousy sources like those is doubtless part of why the tone of the draft is promotional. Forbes shouldn't be cited at all. The other two may be cited, but only for non-controversial statements, and the bulk of any article should be based on independent sources. If the difficulty is that you didn't understand what a good source is, it's an independent, secondary, reliable source which contains significant coverage of your topic. If those are really the best sources that can be found, it's time to give up on the topic and move on to something else. --Worldbruce (talk) 14:44, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for the insight it helps me in better understanding what type of sources are acceptable here. Mmt21pf (talk) 17:17, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm going to jump in and add to what Worldbruce said. Forbes is a great reliable news source site and should absolutely be used, UNLESS the author is labeled as "a Forbes Contributor" or a member of one of the various "Forbes Councils". Those are not journalists, and with uncertain financial motivations, the reliability and notability imparted on the subject by this source is questionable. Also, you should not use speaker sites as sources. Those are controlled by the subject. You also have some syntax problems.  Check out WP:YOURFIRSTARTICLE. TechnoTalk (talk) 21:35, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Super helpful! Thank you so much I really appreciate this feedback. This is my first time writing a Wikipedia page so just trying my best to understand what is required. The subject I am writing about is notable, it's just a matter of ensuring the information I"m providing is coming from a 100% neutral point of view. Mmt21pf (talk) 21:57, 15 March 2022 (UTC)